#dev 2026-09-18

2026-09-18 UTC
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angelo python 3.10 reaches end of life in two weeks. would it be unreasonable to deprecate support for python 3.8 and 3.9 in mf2py or should I make the effort to tweak its testing workflow to maintain support?
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angelo cc: _fluffy
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[snarfed] sgtm!
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[snarfed] thank you for maintaining mf2py!
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angelo_ mf2py has been updated. i was able to keep support for 3.8/3.9 while adding support for 3.13/3.14. let me know if i broke anything.
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[capjamesg] angelo_++
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Loqi angelo_ has 1 karma over the last year
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[capjamesg] Amazing!
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fafau06 i finally got webmention on my jekyll web!! no clue if it actually works tho but it's there
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fafau06 i was gonna use webmention for comments but doesn't that mean that only others who also got webmention on their site can comment on my post?
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fafau06 like, it won't be a public comment section, isn't it?
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[KevinMarks] There are a couple of answers to that. One is to use http://brid.gy - if you post links to your posts on mastodon/bluesky/reddit it will pick up replies there and send them to you as webmentions.
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[KevinMarks] If you want to enable comments from peopel without their own site, you can link to (or make a form from) https://commentpara.de/
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fafau06 idt i need comments from other platforms so i'll try looking around with the second one, tgakns!!
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aaronpk alright, soft launching this today https://indiekey.id/
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aaronpk and a deprecation banner on indieauth.com pointing people to it
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[schmarty] aaronpk++ wowoww
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Loqi aaronpk has 28 karma in this channel over the last year (100 in all channels)
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aaronpk still a couple rough edges but it should mostly work. some pretty big changes from indieauth.com UX wise though
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[Murray] aaronpk++ this looks awesome
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doesnm why this design are so familiar
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aaronpk same as dev.indieauth.rocks 😂
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aaronpk and pretty neutral to begin with
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[Murray] FYI, not sure if a Zen/Firefox thing, but the favicon for me is a green square. Feels like it should be that nice blue circle/ring icon. (Super minor detail, obviously )
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aaronpk oops, there's no favicon, wonder why it's a green square for you
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thamara_k Should I update my site with the IndieKey endpoint if I need to stay signed into the wiki?
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thamara_k Apologies if this is a stupid question. I don't exactly understand what this is. Is IndieAuth being replaced?
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aaronpk this page has some more info https://indiekey.id/migrate
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[Murray] Might be a Zen thing
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[Murray] yeah Firefox and Vivaldi are both empty. My guess is there's a default fallback favicon in Zen, never noticed it before 🤷
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aaronpk if you link to indieauth.com as rel=authorization_endpoint then yes you should switch to indiekey. I am eventually going to shut down indieauth.com like I have been promising for the last 7 years
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rubenwardy are you based in Indonesia?
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rubenwardy probably not a good idea to use that tld
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rubenwardy can websites 'pin' a passkey?
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rubenwardy like provide a public cert
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[tantek] lol was just going to ask about migration to Indonesia
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thamara_k aaronpk returning a 429 on the /migrate page, guess I should check back later?
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thamara_k but yes I had it linked as rel=authorization_endpoint so that answers my question
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thamara_k thank you
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aaronpk Looks like your cdn is blocking requests, which will likely affect indieweb apps you're trying to log in to as well
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thamara_k I see. I enabled some bot protections on Vercel, could that be the reason?
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thamara_k I am still logged in to the wiki and webmention.io without any issues
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thamara_k disabling that worked with the /migrate page, thanks
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thamara_k that all seems to be working now. one last question, if I block non-browser requests again on my CDN will it affect indiekey?
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fafau06 i wasn't expecting to hear my country being drop mentioned here
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fafau06 took the light out of me
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gRegor aaronpk++
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gRegor Minor, but the anchor links in the docs make the heading appear under the fixed top banner, so "Moving from indieauth.com" isn't visible
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aaronpk Oops I always do that somehow
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[social] gRegor, last evening I got SSH connected to my server and I got direct access to my logs, as well as I was running tail -f to monitor php-mf2 attempts and the python equivalent. I could see the PHP trigger 403 errors, but the error logs aren’t populating, sadly.
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gRegor ah, no request headers in the log?
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gRegor The User-Agent header is what I was suspecting
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[artlung] aaronpk++ managed to create an account, add the link html header, log in, and I can see “http://artlung.com signed in through http://indieauth.com 15 time(s) since 2020-01-16 .”
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Xlongdivision is there indieweb-friendly way to accept comments from an unauthenticated site visitor? I.e, some person stumbles upon a blog post and wants to comment "Hey cool" without having to create account.
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rubenwardy https://indieweb.org/local_comments
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rubenwardy I wrote up my solution there
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Xlongdivision rubenwardy++ thank you!
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[social] gRegor - “GET / HTTP/2.0” 403 548 “-” “Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_12_6) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/76.0.3809.132 Safari/537.36 p3k/XRay http://webmention.io (+https://webmention.io)”
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gRegor Ah right, that tracks with the source code I looked up
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gRegor Might be worth checking with the host, there might be mod_security or something else blocking it
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gRegor [snarfed]: Do you know if some Mastodon instances use `#` in the URLs for their likes? I'd not seen that before, seemed to trip up my webmention receiving when it got encoded. The source URL was https://ap.brid.gy/convert/web/https://social.lol/users/todd%23likes/2519999
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[snarfed] sigh yeah it's a whole thing. we are part of the problem, but far from the whole problem. 😕 https://github.com/w3c/activitypub/issues/367
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Loqi [preview] [snarfed] #367 Guidance on fragments in ids
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[snarfed] er, sorry, I guess here specifically we're not part of the problem, just the messenger 😁
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gRegor np, just wanted to check!
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aaronpk should i move it to .org??
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[schmarty] .onion let's goooooooo 😄
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gRegor haha
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[rose] Random thing: I bought an Honor MagicPad 4 tablet, and it promised it could run Linux properly via Linux Lab... Well, it isn't as mature as it should be - a few bugs. But the actual performance of the thing and the quality of the keyboard for the way I like to use tablets and laptops (I also have tiny hands) made me explore other options. Well... Long story short, I now have a secure virtual desktop when I need it, via my standard server. And
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[rose] I can do all my usual linuxy things on there. I also discovered Acode (VS Code/Codium for android) in the process, which is really good and has its own terminal, and can do all the usual things. Recommended! Termius is my go to for remotely controlling my server, as usual, but this makes it just so much easier to travel without a laptop when I don't want the hassle of it.
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[rose] I didn't try out the AI agent part so can't say anything about that. But yeah, look. https://acode.app/
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