#dev 2026-10-02

2026-10-02 UTC
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GWG My new mailing list plugin is getting bot signups. I hate the bot arms race.
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[social] The bot wars are real
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[social] Iā€™m needing to get the user agents represented from Webmentions with the parser coming to my site so I can get the old user agent blocking turned back on. I went from 16k to 20k in traffic for a week (with 1.2k to 1.6k of organic traffic) to over 100k per week hitting my site and it is mostly AI crawlers using the old user agents representing. Getting out of the 100k range to 20k would be good relief.
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WinnerWind aaronpk: hey quick question about webmention.io, what is the correct way to set up a redirect so that i can do a refile? apologies if i already asked, my memory is kind of fuzzy right now
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WinnerWind does it have to be a 301?
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aaronpk Yes I believe so. Think of it more like how would you make sure someone's links from their site to yours keep working
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WinnerWind aaronpk: would it be possible to include meta refreshes as well? i dont think people using neocities etc. would be able to set up a 301
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[artlung] curious to know if anyone with an Android device can feel a haptic vibrate when clicking the dot buttons on https://apps.artlung.com/spark/ (looks like the techniques the libs I use to induce that stopped working).
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jone42 [artlung] https://haptics.lochie.me/
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[artlung] That's (one) of what I am using. It fails in recent iOS.
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[artlung] See footer for links of credit
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jone42 ok
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jone42 any thoughts on schema.org in addiotion to mf2?
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offeringofpie Re web haptics: It fails on my android too (Chrome and Firefox). I think it has very limited support, per device and sometimes haptic feedback settings need to be enabled
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[artlung] Yeah, on iOS about a year ago. It worked great. The GitHub repository has bugs and citations in the webkit source. A change. Thanks!
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[artlung] offeringofpie++
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Loqi offeringofpie has 1 karma in this channel over the last year (8 in all channels)
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gRegor [artlung]: no haptic feedback for me on (I think) pretty up to date Android + Chrome
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gRegor jone42: the common question around here is "what is the consuming use-case?" There doesn't often seem to be much for schema.org beyond a *limited* subset in Google search results, so it depends if that's important to you. More criticism and experiences on the wiki: https://indieweb.org/schema.org
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gRegor Contrasted with mf2 which allows a lot of us to have richer interactions on our personal sites
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doesnm_ anyone had problem with Spectrum where they blocked your domain just because it exists?
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aaronpk Hm haven't we done other things like that before..
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aaronpk what is http-equiv
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Loqi meta http-equiv status is an HTML extension specification that adds the "Status" value to the existing meta element's http-equiv attribute as a method for representing the HTTP Status code https://indieweb.org/http-equiv
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carrvo re haptic: works for me.
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aaronpk wow, websub.rocks still gets a ton of traffic
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[snarfed] huh! interesting
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aaronpk it also gets a lot of spam traffic of people entering junk emails into the login box, but it has actual legit traffic too
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