#dev 2026-10-16
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rnkn WinnerWind: sans-serif vs monospace design https://blip.town/about or https://staging-blip.town/about
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WinnerWind rnkn: they both look monospace on my laptop <////3
# WinnerWind that said i do have issues with fonts because im on linux
# rnkn WinnerWind: oh weird the blip.town one should be sans-serif
# WinnerWind rnkn: AH! i changed my 'default' font on firefox to be a monospace one
# WinnerWind let me try in chromium
# WinnerWind hmmm, here i actually prefer the sans serif on
# WinnerWind the monospace version seems "excessively" or "aggressively" monospace to me
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# rnkn WinnerWind: hmm, yes I am on the fence. I think I've decided the backend (file manager and edit page) should be monospace, but the landing page is more an "identity" of the project
# rnkn more ruminating needed
# WinnerWind exactly! show off your personality
# rnkn WinnerWind: partly inspired by https://thecreativeindependent.com/
# WinnerWind rnkn: this looks nice, its minimalist and i like the color choice
# WinnerWind makes it look like sticky notes
# rnkn WinnerWind: you dig the monospace here?
# WinnerWind rnkn: hmm, personal opinion but im conflicted
# WinnerWind 'm looking around the varius pages and i find the monospace too thin to read in some sections, which i do think is a problem with some typefaces
# rnkn part of the reason I like monospace for blip.town is that it gives it a "scrappy" feel, not trying to be polished
# WinnerWind sometimes it switches back to serif fonts and then immediately to monospace and it looks like either someone forgot to set CSS rules -\o/-
# WinnerWind rnkn: to me monospace designs always end up looking extremly polished
# WinnerWind if you want a scrappy look but still dig monospace you could try courier
# WinnerWind courier is a pretty nice font even if it isn't monospace, i actually use it in my diary
# rnkn yeah I think your suggestion of monospace + sans-serif for headings work, but mixing serif and monospace is a bit hmm
# rnkn WinnerWind: you may also like this one https://www.naiveweekly.com
# WinnerWind i think this goes back to what i thought of earlier: using a monospace font isn't a sin but you need to commit to it
# WinnerWind here i'm seeing three styles clash at once
# WinnerWind rnkn: and im conflicted on this one too, i don't think serif is the right choice here
# WinnerWind it's going for that minimalist look again, but the background has these doodles on it
# WinnerWind it looks like sticky notes
# WinnerWind i feel like helvetica could be a nice safe choice for this type of design
# rnkn they just changed the background from white to that kinda ugly blue colour so that might influence
# rnkn a bit of a tangent but I'm considering changing the user site "snapshots" feature (git repo commits) to be only the text files (.md .txt .css .js) and not everything (e.g. images, PDFs) because 1. git doesn't do well with large binary files, and 2. server space
# WinnerWind git repo commits? how is that different from a commit?
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# rnkn that's what I mean, just flagging that "snapshots" are just commits
# rnkn but to the user the feature is just called "snapshots"
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# WinnerWind i didn't know they're called snapshots
# WinnerWind my site has a few images and its still under 100 MiB
# rnkn I just mean for my users, since they are artists not tech people, they would be confused by git terminology, so I call them snapshots
# rnkn my first user's git repo is 400MB, plus the work tree of 700MB, and I'm really only budgeting for 2GB per user
# rnkn this is the thing with artists, they like high res images of their work!
# WinnerWind rnkn: why not set up an LFS store for them?
# WinnerWind git LFS is a bit involved as a server owner but for a user once they set up the file types that should be checked with LFS, its basically the same workflow
# rnkn I looked into LFS but it's too complicated for my liking, I would probably use git-annex
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# rnkn but my thinking is that users probably don't want versions of their binary files, just their page edits, like a wiki history
# rnkn and I think if I were just storing page edits I could make the history automatic with every page save, instead of currently where they have to click "take snapshot"
# rnkn it's hard to anticipate how users will act
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[KevinMarks] I like Fira Code as a monospaced font https://github.com/tonsky/firacodefira code
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[capjamesg] [tantek] If you need a blog post idea, a write-up of Olivia’s homepage would be a good post!
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# [snarfed] bridged RSVP on Meetable looks ok now! [aaronpk] did you have to change something? https://events.indieweb.org/2026/10/homebrew-website-club-writing-edition-l0MI7yg9nho1
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# [capjamesg] Ooh that sounds like a fun task!
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[tantek] I did make some experiments with that back in the day, purely on responsive hexagons from a display / hover perspective: https://tantek.com/CSS/Examples/bathroomtiles.html
# [capjamesg] Wow, honeycomb style!
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[rose] I made a couple of helper scripts for a client. They are tailored to the nature of that project - it's a webapp thing really, requiring live on the fly language switching but also fully static. I just decided to put it all on a private repo for sharing with their IT department, and made it clear the helper scripts remain mine - not part of the deliverables. BUT I was wondering whether there is value in there and I should look at
# [rose] There are a few quirks, cos a lot would normally get stripped, but we actually need soft hyphenation places marked in these localisations. So there are instructions to translators to use [-], which is then converted to a proper soft hyphen by the script on import. Basically cos the technical language doesn't have working auto-hyphenation even for some terms in English, and it needs to work in a table on mobile. 😄
# [rose] [tantek] Weird! I am working on a redesign for my website after realising gradient animations are a bit heavy on rendering when a device does not have full access on pRoot Linux-in-Android virtual machine environments. I know, unusual, but it was indicative. I was planning to expand on my hexagon theme and have some in the background (as nodes) light up and so on. Love a good hexagon! But I use SVGs. 😄 Creative to achieve it
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "XLIFF" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "XLIFF is ____", a sentence describing the term)
# [rose] A developer might just think oh JSON is enough. And tbh that is the way I designed the tool, before they told me a certain known big localisation agency would be doing localisation, and not internal teams. I know they are, well, not very good, so I decided to create a JSON to XLIFF converter - and one for the reverse trip - plus instructions - to avoid issues.
# [rose] On mine, no - HTML is better. But it would be useful if I were perhaps working on some sort of information tool where I didn't need every bit of localised text to be in the DOM from the start. It would be useful for presenting data in tables, for example. I don't personally do that. Others might?
# [rose] Dynamic data I mean - cos yeah, there are strong arguments to use plain localised static HTML in very many cases. Inserting translations via JS is against standard best practice, but there are some use cases. It does make sense for this client cos they only wanted to maintain one file (I did originally plan multiple for each language, automatically generated, but then it can't be integrated as a webapp).
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gRegor [manton] thanks for doing that m.b. update so quickly! great screenshot too. mind if I add it to the /consent_screen wiki page?
# gRegor Also if you want a richer display of the app name, that client ID document has the name and URL so you could show "indiebookclub" as a link: https://indiebookclub.biz/id
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