#events 2025-11-01

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Loqi [New Event] david.shanske.com created "Nov 1, 2025 9:30am IndieWebCamp Berlin - Welcome + Intros" https://events.indieweb.org/UxeeTWUfnEsM
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Loqi [New Event] david.shanske.com created "Nov 2, 2025 3:00pm IndieWebCamp Berlin - Demos" https://events.indieweb.org/dvvEBbqz8ihg
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zachary.kai tantek_com[d]: Ah no sorry! I thought I had to book a ticket to attend remotely.
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tantek.com zachary_kai[d]: Got it. Can you check your Tito confirmation link to see if it lets you return the ticket?
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[tantek] Good morning IndieWebCampers!
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[Jo] Good morning!
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Loqi rise and shine!
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[Al_Abut] Good morning everybody! [tantek] and [jeremycherfas], I made a quick post continuing our discussion earlier this week about photos, just in case it helps seed a discussion:
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[Al_Abut] https://alabut.com/writing/photobrainstorming/
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[Al_Abut] (and also in case I can’t actually tune in)
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[KevinMarks] This is worth a read about photo ui https://medium.com/google-design/google-photos-45b714dfbed1
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[KevinMarks] This is worth a read about photo ui https://medium.com/google-design/google-photos-45b714dfbed1
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[KevinMarks] This is worth a read about photo ui https://medium.com/google-design/google-photos-45b714dfbed1
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GWG Getting set up
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[tantek] GWG++ good morning
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[me1850] ↩️ I didn’t!
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GWG Main room is online.
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[me1850] ↩️ I didn’t!
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[tantek] need the Zoom details added to https://indieweb.org/2025/Berlin#Remote_Participation
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GWG First time trying the new Sub Events feature
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GWG https://events.indieweb.org/2025/11/indiewebcamp-berlin-welcome-intros-UxeeTWUfnEsM
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[KevinMarks] ↩️ I made it with bridgy fed as you have enough indieweb and feed info to build it by default
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[schmarty] GWG++ thank you for getting the zoom going!!
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[schmarty] GWG++ thank you for getting the zoom going!!
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[schmarty] GWG++ thank you for getting the zoom going!!
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capjamesg [tantek] The movie audio is coming through on Zoom now 🙌
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GWG I'm going to try creating a sub-event for each session in the Meetable instance.
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capjamesg Maybe I can write that Movie Club entry after all 😂
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GWG I can't remember how to redo the wiki table in the schedule if we have the 4th room
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[tantek] we don't need to record this part GWG 😎
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[schmarty] GWG++ thank you for getting the zoom going!!
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GWG I didn't hit record yet
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GWG Tell me when
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[tantek] will do. we are running a little behind and going to give people a few more minutes to show up
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[schmarty] GWG: looking at turnout i doubt we will need a 4th room
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GWG We have a problem
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GWG The 2FA for the Red room isn't in the 1Password.
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GWG I have two rooms logged in otherwise.
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GWG There is no 2FA for the Yellow room either.
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GWG So all I have is Orange and Main
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capjamesg GWG If it helps you can have my Zoom Pro account. I can rename it temporarily.
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GWG Rename isn't an issue
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[schmarty] i'm seeing the same, GWG. well, two rooms is a start.
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GWG Hold onto that until session planning and we'll see what happens
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capjamesg Sounds good. I'm here in case I'm needed!
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[schmarty] we're waiting on folks to trickle in. planning to start for real around 9:45
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capjamesg [schmarty] 10% of me wants to finish Hackers first 😂
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[schmarty] it's a great movie
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capjamesg Every time I watch it I want to learn how to use rollerskates 😄
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[Al_Abut] Never seen it before but it’s getting my appetite
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[Al_Abut] I love any music from the Trainspotting era. And actors from Trainspotting.
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[schmarty] waiting on some folks making coffee and then we'll begin welcome + intros
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[Al_Abut] the 2025/Berlin page is on the share screen
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[schmarty] forgot to mention, i'm noting in https://etherpad.indieweb.org/Intros at the moment!
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[Al_Abut] Oh thanks for the link, I was hanging out in a different pad waiting for others (https://etherpad.indieweb.org/2025-11-01-iwc-berlin)
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[schmarty] i followed the link from the /2025/Berlin page. 😅
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[KevinMarks] Can we get attendees to add themselves to the wiki, so I can add them to the starter pack
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[tantek] [KevinMarks] see the Intros etherpad
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[me1850] Added more feeds to https://feed.city/c/dan/l/IWC+BER+2025 after the intros.
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capjamesg [me1850] I'm curious about how differentiate videos/audio/feeds?
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capjamesg Maybe answer in #indieweb-dev though. I realise the answer may be technical 😅
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[me1850] ↩️ Yeah, happy to discuss in #indieweb-dev later. But basically it's all based on enclosure (RSS)/link (Atom) type.
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[Jo] How are you remote people doing
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[Al_Abut] Great! Feels like we’re there.
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capjamesg [Jo] Very well!
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capjamesg I'm making coffee.
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cupparex capjamesg[d]: Thank you for the reminder! I saw that a couple days ago and meant to write one for it
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cupparex capjamesg[d]++
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GWG To set up things, I'll need the session grid
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zachary.kai I can see Jo in the back! Finally worked out how to join remotely.
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zachary.kai Hope the sessions are enjoyable for everyone!
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capjamesg Welcome zachary_kai[d]!
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[Jo] Ive got coffe with almond milk which i usually dont drink but ita nice
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[Jo] Welcome zach!
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[Al_Abut] Hi Zach! Started reading the Rick Rubin book this week, my review for your roundup will be a bit late (sorry)
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zachary.kai Thank you! And ooh enjoy! Hi Al! I'm glad you're reading it, I hope you enjoy it. No worries at all, I'm just glad you're participating!
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Loqi "IndieWebCamp Berlin - Welcome + Intros" call ended https://events.indieweb.org/2025/11/indiewebcamp-berlin-welcome-intros-UxeeTWUfnEsM
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GWG All rooms are live.
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GWG Recording when notified
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[Al_Abut] Where are the links?
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GWG I can't keep audio on for all rooms, it would be cacophony.
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GWG I wanted to put them in the session page, but I'm not sure if anyone is updating it
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GWG So, I don't know what is where
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[tantek] Session facilitators, please let GWG know here in the #indieweb-events channel when you are starting your session
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GWG No one has joined yellow.
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[me1850] Can you start recording Red please
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GWG In which room?
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[schmarty] GWG: orange room is ready to record as well.
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[schmarty] GWG: i believe daniel is referring to the red room zoom
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GWG Done.
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GWG Only main isn't on for recording yet
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[tantek] give us a sec
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Loqi [New Event] david.shanske.com created "Nov 1, 2025 11:30am Mobile Responsive Web Design" https://events.indieweb.org/a5O1lD0Wensx
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zachary.kai Thank you for making the accommodations! You don't have to if it's too difficult. Sorry about that. I'm only able to listen and not speak, so I appreciate that regardless!
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zachary.kai And yes, I can see the whiteboard!
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GWG You didn't tell me in here to start the recording, I have 4 sets of speakers running right now
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Loqi [New Event] david.shanske.com created "Nov 1, 2025 11:30am Activitypub" https://events.indieweb.org/k4oV3OHnlaAc
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Loqi [New Event] david.shanske.com created "Nov 1, 2025 11:30am Extreme Asset Optimization / How Low Can You Go?" https://events.indieweb.org/JOhm1sPfMcGL
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Loqi [New Event] david.shanske.com created "Nov 1, 2025 1:00pm FeedCity RSS Reader" https://events.indieweb.org/3SIGZi9s4SAZ
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Loqi [Event Updated] david.shanske.com updated "Nov 1, 2025 1:00pm FeedCity RSS Reader" changed hide_from_main_feed https://events.indieweb.org/event/913/history/2482/diff
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Loqi [New Event] david.shanske.com created "Nov 1, 2025 2:00pm Hosting services at home" https://events.indieweb.org/Xs45g051o8Pn
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Loqi [New Event] david.shanske.com created "Nov 1, 2025 Photos" https://events.indieweb.org/ctQCOvq0yx1m
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Loqi [Event Updated] david.shanske.com updated "Nov 1, 2025 3:00pm Photos" changed start_time, end_time https://events.indieweb.org/event/915/history/2485/diff
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Loqi [New Event] david.shanske.com created "Nov 1, 2025 1:00pm AI For Coding and Gaming" https://events.indieweb.org/bxQUjZWCQdD7
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Loqi [New Event] david.shanske.com created "Nov 1, 2025 3:00pm CSR vs SSR" https://events.indieweb.org/Us5zpGaezkk7
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manuel1 Can we have sharing enabled in tomato (red)?
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Loqi [New Event] david.shanske.com created "Nov 1, 2025 2:00pm Sustainable Web Techniques" https://events.indieweb.org/uPAmAu0y1xAB
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Loqi [Event Updated] david.shanske.com updated "Nov 1, 2025 1:00pm AI For Coding and Gaming" changed hide_from_main_feed https://events.indieweb.org/event/916/history/2489/diff
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Loqi [Event Updated] david.shanske.com updated "Nov 1, 2025 3:00pm Photos" changed hide_from_main_feed https://events.indieweb.org/event/915/history/2490/diff
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Loqi [Event Updated] david.shanske.com updated "Nov 1, 2025 3:00pm CSR vs SSR" changed hide_from_main_feed https://events.indieweb.org/event/917/history/2491/diff
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Loqi [Event Updated] david.shanske.com updated "Nov 2, 2025 3:00pm IndieWebCamp Berlin - Demos" changed hide_from_main_feed https://events.indieweb.org/event/909/history/2492/diff
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Loqi [Event Updated] david.shanske.com updated "Nov 1, 2025 11:30am Extreme Asset Optimization / How Low Can You Go?" changed hide_from_main_feed https://events.indieweb.org/event/912/history/2493/diff
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GWG Okay. If you look at https://events.indieweb.org/2025/11/-indiewebcamp-berlin-oNMvxRpOvfEs - There is a sub-event with the right link and time for each session.
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[schmarty] GWG++
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GWG Session schedule says that this session ends at noon, which is in a few seconds
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GWG Session is now over time
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GWG Please advise when recording can pause
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[me1850] You can stop recording the RED room please
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[tantek] GWG, we can stop recording main room
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GWG [schmarty]: For tomorrow, the Demos session is set up. Can you log in tomorrow to the account and handle recording? If it is in the account, I can download and later
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capjamesg GWG I'm headed out to lunch and will be afk for ~1h.
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GWG I'm going to have some breakfast, maybe steam my eyes
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GWG I just need to wait till the orange room stops oranging
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[tantek] Lunch plans happening in main room
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[schmarty] oh!
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GWG Sessions still happening in orange
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[schmarty] we'll wrap up in orange
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zachary.kai Thank you very much for hosting! It was really interesting listening.
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zachary.kai I need to learn optimization so this was very helpful. I apologize for not speaking, was only in an environment where I can listen.
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[tantek] Will join you in kitchen area
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[tantek] Kicking folks out of main room
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[tantek] A few of us are at the pizza place
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[tantek] Il Pizzaiolo
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capjamesg GWG I'm back!
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GWG Being as lunch was late, are we changing times?
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[me1850] Our group of 6 people insist going to make 1pm for the next sessions. Only now getting our lunch served.
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[me1850] insist=isn‘t
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GWG Okay
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GWG Keep me posted
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GWG I'm going to go check on my 3d printing
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[tantek] Sessions may be starting a few minutes late. We’re just getting our bill and togo boxes now
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[tantek] Let’s push back session start to 13:15 at least
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[tantek] Eat your lunches :)
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[me1850] I think we have to postpone to 1:30 or even take the next slot at 2pm.
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[schmarty] Three of us at Il Pizzaiolo wrapping up.
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[tantek] If @danielthere’s no objection let’s bump the first session to 13:30
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[tantek] Can someone edit the wiki? Bump sessions by 30min and cut length of last session?
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Loqi [Event Updated] david.shanske.com updated "Nov 1, 2025 1:30pm FeedCity RSS Reader" changed start_time, end_time https://events.indieweb.org/event/913/history/2494/diff
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Loqi [Event Updated] david.shanske.com updated "Nov 1, 2025 1:30pm AI For Coding and Gaming" changed start_time, end_time https://events.indieweb.org/event/916/history/2495/diff
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Loqi [Event Updated] david.shanske.com updated "Nov 1, 2025 2:30pm Hosting services at home" changed start_time, end_time https://events.indieweb.org/event/914/history/2496/diff
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Loqi [Event Updated] david.shanske.com updated "Nov 1, 2025 2:30pm Sustainable Web Techniques" changed start_time, end_time https://events.indieweb.org/event/918/history/2497/diff
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Loqi [Event Updated] david.shanske.com updated "Nov 1, 2025 3:30pm Photos" changed start_time, end_time https://events.indieweb.org/event/915/history/2498/diff
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Loqi [Event Updated] david.shanske.com updated "Nov 1, 2025 3:30pm CSR vs SSR" changed start_time, end_time https://events.indieweb.org/event/917/history/2499/diff
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[tantek] hey everyone, photo in the main room!
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[tantek] group photo!
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[schmarty] ok we did it! returning to rooms and discussions!
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[tantek] photos taken! go start your sessions
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[tantek] did anyone take notes in the activitypub session? session etherpad is empty since 2018 NYC
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[tantek] [jeremycherfas] can you upload your group photo to https://events.indieweb.org/event/707/photo also?
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[tantek] for the Sustainability session: https://sustyicons.com/ (capjamesg can you project)
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[tantek] can someone in the main room ping Florian1 with the URL path from #indieweb-random?
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aaronpk Yellow room has TOTP 2FA now GWG
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GWG aaronpk: Thanks. The other one was Red
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GWG No rush on it, but then next time we need them, it will be there.
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GWG aaronpk: Hope your travel is going well
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GWG Orange Room, your session ended 3 minutes ago.
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GWG Can I stop the recording
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GWG I'll just do it
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aaronpk Red is done too
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GWG aaronpk: Thanks, we're ready for next time
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GWG No one in Red Room yet
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GWG Advise recording in Main Room
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GWG Orange room live, but nothing scheduled in there
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GWG CSR session is not live in Red Room, need participant in room or alternate venue
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[tantek] is Red Room not joined to the Zoom anymore or is the room "empty" (on video)
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GWG [tantek]: It isn't joined
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GWG So, that session is not recorded
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[tantek] oh no
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GWG I made multiple attempts to advise
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GWG No one responded
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[tantek] when did it depart?
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[tantek] it wasn't clear what the problem was
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GWG When someone asked me to get the recording. You can't do that without restarting the room
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[tantek] it sounded like no one was in the actual room, not that the room had disconnected
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[tantek] [Joschi_Kuphal] are you in the CSR session? can you rejoin the Red Room to the Zoom for the Red Room?
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GWG No one in red responded regardless.
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[tantek] GWG, how do you know who is in Red if it is not connected to the Zoom?
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GWG I don't.
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GWG I know they aren't in Orange because that is still connected
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[tantek] right, hence the confusion
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GWG And we never turned on Yellow
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[tantek] need to alert ASAP when a room is not connected to the ZOom
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[Joschi_Kuphal] [tantek] no, i take a little break at the moment. no idea who's in that session, i'll go annd have a look
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[tantek] sending [schmarty] up to Red Room to get it reconnected to the Zoom
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[Al_Abut] Excellent discussion on photos going on right now! And how each service encourages different kinds of photos.
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[schmarty] GWG please re-allow red room into zoom
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GWG Done
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GWG No video
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GWG Just audio
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[schmarty] One sec
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aaronpk Do we need a little robot with an iPad you can drive around next year?
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GWG aaronpk: Do you have one of those?
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GWG I would welcome your thoughts on running 4 Zoom rooms at once, if you have any
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aaronpk i do not have one, i just think it would be fun
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[artlung] used Double Robotics "ipad on a stalk on a wheel" are on ebay. US$700 to US$1300 apparently.
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aaronpk there's a handful of new "home security robots" for under $200 now too. only one way, but would suffice for this purpose
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GWG aaronpk: Anything that doesn't need an iPad?
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aaronpk oh some are two-way talk
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[Al_Abut] [capjamesg] we should give a shoutout to our photo popup in a few weeks?
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GWG You have a photo popout?
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[Al_Abut] As of a few hours ago1
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[Al_Abut] !!!
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GWG What is a popout vs a popup?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "popout vs a popup" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "popout vs a popup is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[capjamesg] GWG Pop up haha
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GWG Maybe once you pop up, you then pop out?
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[Al_Abut] You guys are popcorny
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[capjamesg] 😂
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[capjamesg] What is popcorn?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "popcorn" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "popcorn is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[capjamesg] Aw I was hoping for an easter egg 😄
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[tantek] what is food
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Loqi Food is a post type that represents eating or drinking particular food or drink https://indieweb.org/food
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[tantek] popcorn is /food
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Loqi ok
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[schmarty] thanks all remote folks who joined us today!!! ❤️
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[schmarty] GWG++ thanks for all the remote help. and capjamesg++
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[schmarty] the zoom help i mean
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[Al_Abut] Thank you!!!
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[Al_Abut] That was the best remote experience I’ve had so far, thanks for setting all that up
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[schmarty] [Al_Abut]++ thanks for the photo thoughts, too! hyped for more about all that.
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[Al_Abut] And thanks to @gwg for monitoring all through the wee hours of our morning here
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[Al_Abut] GWG++
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capjamesg [tantek]++ [schmarty]++ for organising!
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[capjamesg] [Joschi_Kuphal]++
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[capjamesg] And ++ to all the volunteers!
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Loqi too much karma!
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aaronpk lol
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[tantek] yay!
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Loqi 😄
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[tantek] a bunch of us are going to Potsdamer Platz to visit the Christmas Market (which is already open lol), the Mall of Berlin, and then grab Indian Food for dinner at an excellent place on the recommendation of [jeremycherfas] — open to anyone who wants to join!
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aaronpk i want to join but unfortunatley i am several thousand feet too high in the air right now
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GWG aaronpk: Enjoy your connecting flight
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[Jo] Wow there's a christmas market already? On Nov 1st thats gitta be some kind of record
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capjamesg [Al_Abut] What do you think about a photo pop up on Saturday December 6th?
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aaronpk what is a photo popup?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "photo popup" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "photo popup is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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capjamesg aaronpk We're deciding that now!
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capjamesg We just had the photos session in Berlin and it was clear there is so much more to talk about.
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capjamesg One topic I'd love to learn a bit more about is presenting photos. How do I best present photos I took on my phone? What accessibility and usability considerations do I need to keep in mind? What resolution considerations need to be considered?
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aaronpk i've been reasonably happy with my current photo presentation, and now I am focusing on how to make it easier for me to capture and post photos. I am always disappointed when I search my site or view a day permalink and there are not enough photos
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capjamesg I have put https://indieweb.org/pop-up#Photos on the pop up list to start brainstorming more dates.
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capjamesg [edit] I have put https://indieweb.org/pop-up#Photos on the pop up list to start brainstorming more dates.
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aaronpk maybe the next meetable feature I should add is a poll to propose and vote on dates 😂
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GWG aaronpk: It's the hardest problem we have
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GWG Getting a date
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aaronpk i added my votes!
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GWG I'll be in Bulgaria, I have nothing after work or on weekends planned. I can +1 anything outside of business hours
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GWG Maybe I will try tackling Immich integration into my workflow
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GWG Need to decide how best to use it though
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GWG For now, rest
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capjamesg Yeah date proposal would be a terrific feature.
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aaronpk seems like a reasonable feature request
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aaronpk create a proposed event with no date, add a bunch of candidate dates. let people vote on dates. eventually turn the proposed event into a scheduled event with a date
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GWG I'm just thinking about how it could help us plan better
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GWG aaronpk: Can you add a poll close date and auto Loqi reminders?
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capjamesg Re: "eventually turn the proposed event into a scheduled event with a date" I'd argue that there should be a button to explicitly do / undo this.
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aaronpk a minimal implementation would be very wiki-like, no need to get into features like "required vs optional attendee" or other things the competition like doodle has
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capjamesg +1
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[Jo] [tantek] are you guys still at the postdamer platz?
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[tantek] Yes! We are dragging [Joschi_Kuphal] to Mall of Berlin😂
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[me1850] I’ll probably be there around 18:30.
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[Jo] I can be aroind there in about half an hour
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[tantek] [Jo] join us for Indian food?
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[Jo] Sure!
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[tantek] [jeremycherfas] is now shopping and [Joschi_Kuphal] has sat down on a bench
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[tantek] There is a mini Christmas market just East of the mall
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[Jo] It's so dark outside already and it's only 6pm
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[me1850] Do we meet at that Christmas market?
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[jeremycherfas] Link to the restaurant https://maps.app.goo.gl/3AAE84nXjph31nkg7?g_st=ipc
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[tantek] Let’s meet at the restaurant
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[me1850] Ok. I happened to exit the train station right there.
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[me1850] It’s pretty much full right now. FYI.
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[Jo] I'll be 10-15 more min
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[tantek] We’re in the queue
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[me1850] Ok. I’m coming back there now
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[tantek] Did you get a table [me1850] ?
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[me1850] No.
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[me1850] Went on a little stroll.
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[tantek] We’re on the list for 5
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[tantek] We are seated at a nice round table and have a spare seat if if anyone wants to join last minute
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[tantek] [Jo] come into the restaurant and turn left. Don’t bother to check with any servers, just walk in like you know what you’re doing :)
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[tantek] We didn’t use the yellow room today so would be great if someone could remove that column from the IWC BER schedule page
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capjamesg Done!
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[Al_Abut] Hey [capjamesg], Dec 6 works great for me! Let’s just pick that date and lock it in.
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capjamesg I'll keep the pop up date vote open for a few days to give people time to take a look and then I'll schedule the event.
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capjamesg I'm excited about this event!
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capjamesg [edit] I have put https://indieweb.org/pop-up#Photos on the pop up list to start brainstorming more dates.
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Loqi [Event Updated] artlung.com updated "Nov 22, 2025 6:00pm Homebrew Website Club - Writing Edition" changed notes_url, description "update ether pad link" https://events.indieweb.org/event/906/history/2500/diff
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