#known 2016-03-02

2016-03-02 UTC
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rMdes strange...can't login with my Known site to the indiewebcamp site
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rMdes www.rmendes.net/indieauth/auth
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rMdes Endpoint did not acknowledge it is an authorization endpoint. The endpoint should return an "IndieAuth: authorization_endpoint" header.
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rMdes even though my profile seem to be OK https://www.rmendes.net/profile/rick
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rMdes and i already succesfully used my site to edit the wiki
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rMdes in the past...
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rMdes i get the same issue at https://indieauth.com
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rMdes can't even pass Level 2 at indiewebify.me
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rMdes Something Went Wrong!
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rMdes When fetching https://www.rmendes.net, we got this problem:
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rMdes No rel=me links could be found!
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rMdes already changed template to see if it was related, but still can't login with my site
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rMdes I also tested a RSVP for the nuremberg meetup here : https://www.rmendes.net/profile/rick
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rMdes sorry here :https://www.rmendes.net/2016/yes-looking-for-cheap-friendly-accommodation-since-i-cant-afford
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rMdes and the RSVP is showing up as a reaction on another post?? https://www.rmendes.net/2016/laughing-at-gossip-journalists-that-think-their-post-is-essential
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rMdes Something is definitely not running as expected...i'll digg more to find out what's going on, but if any of you have some idea, I'm all listening
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kylewm rMdes: sounds like the same issue as https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/known-dev/65Gl1aAI5-c/z6EgU1wmIQAJ
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kylewm it looks like the User block is missing from the top of your and Daniel's pages, but I haven't tracked down where that is actually supposed to be rendered in the code
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benwerd rMdes: I think the latest latest code should fix this?
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benwerd but
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benwerd in Site Configuration > Choose background you can also pick which user shows up on the front page
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benwerd It's odd that it's missing
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cleverdevil FWIW, I have the same-ish issue.
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cleverdevil I think its because the silos are expected to link back to the profile page rather than the toplevel page
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cleverdevil but, that didn't used to be the case
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aaronpk wait what. that error is only if you're trying to use the built-in Known auth server, not silo profiles
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benwerd I need to run but I'll try and get this fixed today
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cleverdevil okay, maybe I am misunderstanding then ;)
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cleverdevil but, yeah, I can't use indieauth anymore from, say, twitter.
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cleverdevil http://share.cleverdevil.io/LAEY5r4N6h.png
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aaronpk ah that's a different issue
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aaronpk your http site doesn't redirect to https so they look like different sites to the relmeauth algorithm
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aaronpk if you enter https://cleverdevil.io/ there it should work
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cleverdevil ahhh
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cleverdevil okay
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cleverdevil hmm... it does redirect for me
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cleverdevil maybe I have that set up wrong...
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cleverdevil also, it still doesn't seem to work with https
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cleverdevil http://share.cleverdevil.io/cMAUg6VMeT.png
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aaronpk http://cleverdevil.io/ serves me the site without a redirect tho
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aaronpk that screenshot says twitter is working!
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cleverdevil oh yeah
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aaronpk the coloring on that could be better
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cleverdevil I'll tinker with my .htaccess
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cleverdevil betting I wiped it out in an upgrade
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aaronpk ah yeah
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cleverdevil try now?
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aaronpk there it goes
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aaronpk now you should be able to use either one for indieauth
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cleverdevil yep, works.
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cleverdevil thanks for catching the SSL redirect, I'll need to remind myself to restore my .htaccess upon Known upgrade
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aaronpk is that redirect not something you can configure in the dreamhost panel?
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aaronpk seems like that would be a good checkbox to have
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cleverdevil typically, yes, but I am hosting on one of our unmanaged VMs.
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aaronpk aha
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cleverdevil aaronpk: looks like indieauth.com may have something up... http://share.cleverdevil.io/LTrHWWnHMd.png
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aaronpk uhoh
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aaronpk what the
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cleverdevil ;)
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aaronpk that's not good https://aaronparecki.com/uploads/Screen-Shot-2016-03-02-11-36-54.png
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aaronpk TIL bash tab-complete doesn't work when your disk is full
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cleverdevil :)
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aaronpk wow what is eating up the disk!
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aaronpk omg it's Monocle's logs!
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cleverdevil blammo, its always logs.
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aaronpk time to make sure logrotate is set up for *everything*
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cleverdevil nods
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cleverdevil this is one of those times when I wish logrotate wasn't a service, but a library.
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cleverdevil everything that writes logs should know to rotate logs.
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cleverdevil dreams of a better world.
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aaronpk true
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aaronpk servers are hard. this is why things like appengine are nice
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cleverdevil indeed.
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cleverdevil but, I'll take a server any day ;)
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aaronpk me too :/
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cleverdevil I just don't trust these PaaS services
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cleverdevil too much lock-in, lack of transparency, and they're pricey as all hell.
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cleverdevil plus, they could get randomly shuttered at any time.
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cleverdevil a server is a server is a server.
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cleverdevil think of it as "IndieInfra" ;)
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aaronpk I am curious to see if they end up standardizing like 5-10 years down the road
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cleverdevil I think we'll end up with BYO PaaS type options
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cleverdevil I mean, we're not that far off already.
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aaronpk cause that's basically what happened with FTP and a basic HTTP server. you can run whatever OS under the hood but as long as you can drop files and have them show up with HTTP then you can offer web hosting
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cleverdevil good configuration management that's easy to understand (ansible), containerization that's easy to consume (docker), and more clouds.
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aaronpk if everyone built their platforms the same way heroku did, then tehere's no lock-in
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cleverdevil yeah, sort of
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