#known 2016-09-19
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@linux_everyday https://withknown.com - A single website for all your content. #linux_everyday (twitter.com/_/status/777662545100414976)
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@jgmac1106 @kevinmarks @krisshaffer Agree privacy through data empowerment. Allow students to decide when to share. Been using @withknown for this (twitter.com/_/status/777913919398608896)
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@kevinmarks @jgmac1106 @krisshaffer You know I'm a big @withknown fan but I think understanding that html is mainly text you can put on a server matters (twitter.com/_/status/777914365823504384)
# @jgmac1106 @kevinmarks @krisshaffer @withknown today in class we will be using x-ray goggles to get at this very lesson, html =text structure thats all (twitter.com/_/status/777914681432440832)
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@benwerd @jgmac1106 @kevinmarks @krisshaffer @withknown Exactly this - markup is just extra information added to text. Really empowering idea. (twitter.com/_/status/777915067966689280)
# @jgmac1106 @benwerd @kevinmarks @krisshaffer @withknown Yes if I can teach 3rd grader to indent a paragraph I can teach them to start with a <p> tag (twitter.com/_/status/777916263662231552)
# @jgmac1106 @benwerd @kevinmarks @krisshaffer @withknown though I can not stress how difficult even the most basic steps can be with young adults (twitter.com/_/status/777916416410394624)
# @benwerd @jgmac1106 @kevinmarks @krisshaffer @withknown My opinion: understanding a page can be self-expression is vital. Imposed design inhibits. (twitter.com/_/status/777916616851886080)
# @benwerd @jgmac1106 @kevinmarks @krisshaffer @withknown Oh for sure. I learned HTML as a teenager but it took me years to "get" it. (twitter.com/_/status/777916783286034433)
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@krisshaffer @benwerd @jgmac1106 @kevinmarks @withknown Biggest hurdle I've seen as a tech advocate/faculty developer is psychological. (twitter.com/_/status/777917034604683264)
# @krisshaffer @benwerd @jgmac1106 @kevinmarks @withknown Even if tool/process is super-easy, if it looks scary or too different, resistance is strong. (twitter.com/_/status/777917207229652992)
# @jgmac1106 @krisshaffer @benwerd @kevinmarks @withknown currently testing a build your first webpage module: https://github.com/mozilla/learning-networks/issues/427 (twitter.com/_/status/777917230390636544)
# @benwerd @krisshaffer @jgmac1106 @kevinmarks @withknown Btw there's also huge value in learning APIs and JavaScript. All valuable and contributory. (twitter.com/_/status/777917281082802176)
# @jgmac1106 @krisshaffer @benwerd @kevinmarks @withknown big debate do you teach a grid system first and avoid positioning or just give template (twitter.com/_/status/777917380492136448)
# @benwerd @jgmac1106 @krisshaffer @kevinmarks @withknown Grid system seems like advanced stuff to me - design rather than HTML education. (twitter.com/_/status/777917550852055040)
# @kevinmarks @krisshaffer @benwerd @jgmac1106 @withknown I wonder if a http://tilde.club approach might work? Retro chic of *.edu/~/[yourname] (twitter.com/_/status/777917579180449792)
# @krisshaffer @kevinmarks @benwerd @jgmac1106 @withknown I'm in "Domain of One's Own" context. All students & faculty already get domain & shared hosting. (twitter.com/_/status/777917825872695296)
# @benwerd @kevinmarks @krisshaffer @jgmac1106 @withknown I like the "give them their own domain" approach - or subdomain if cost prohibitive. (twitter.com/_/status/777917918168264704)
# @krisshaffer @kevinmarks @benwerd @jgmac1106 @withknown Trying to empower people to do cool things in their spaces. (twitter.com/_/status/777917924715687936)
# @krisshaffer @kevinmarks @benwerd @jgmac1106 @withknown I want to move beyond just FOSS tools & open access, move towards open-source content. (twitter.com/_/status/777918026863747078)
# @kevinmarks @jgmac1106 @krisshaffer @benwerd @withknown I'd start with plaintext, then teach POSH (<h1> <p> <ol> etc) then go with <nav><article><aside> (twitter.com/_/status/777918132476194816)
# @jgmac1106 @krisshaffer @kevinmarks past examples of student first websites thanks to @benwerd @erinjo @withknown & @MozLearn http://edu106.networkedlearningcollaborative.com/pages/fall15-portfolios (twitter.com/_/status/777918200843472897)
# @jgmac1106 @kevinmarks @krisshaffer @benwerd @withknown yeah tag tag revolution, html boxes and x-ray goggles great for POSH cc @chadsansing (twitter.com/_/status/777918355432935424)
# @kevinmarks @jgmac1106 @krisshaffer @benwerd @withknown once you have that structure, you can explain CSS, then introduce class. (twitter.com/_/status/777918875698552833)
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