#known 2017-03-17
2017-03-17 UTC
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[jeremycherfas] One of my treasured memories is filming the Orange NJ marching band playing The Sash My Father Wore on St Patrick's Day in New York City.
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@Teamgate 400 free #tools to build your #business -> https://blog.teamgate.com/400-free-resources-to-grow-your-business/ @LiberioApp @withknown @twholman @storywars_net… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/842729947835875328 (twitter.com/_/status/842729947835875328)
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# [jeremycherfas] dgold Thanks. Nobody there seemed in the least bit concerned about it. Mind you, this was 1982. In other news for today, May the road rise up etc etc. If you want me tonight, I'll be at the Irish Embassy to the Holy See.
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# [jeremycherfas] There's proper Guinness, but they whiskey is a little scarcer.
# [jeremycherfas] Dunno what to say. I enjoy a Guinness. And red ale. As for whiskey, I really like Writer's Tears and Bushmill's single malt.
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# [jeremycherfas] OMG -- I had no idea there whiskey suffered sectarian strife; thanks for the warning.
# [jeremycherfas] I never say no to a MUrphy's. But it is rare here.
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[chrisaldrich] #thingsyouwishwereknown
# [jeremycherfas] So true. It's a minefield out there.
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@withknown New research suggests that kids get their news from YouTube, Facebook but still trust family + teachers as sources. https://www.commonsensemedia.org/research/news-and-americas-kids-infographic (twitter.com/_/status/842800996338216960)
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martymcguire[m] thanks chrisaldrich for testing out Screech with his Known site! i learned a lot about Known and I have made a first-pass at supporting audio uploads via micropub through the built-in IndiePub plugin.
# martymcguire[m] PR is here: https://github.com/idno/Known/pull/1665
# martymcguire[m] also hello! long time #indieweb chatter, first timer here in #knownchat
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# [chrisaldrich] Welcome to the gang martymcguire[m]! I'll bet that jeremycherfas will also appreciate /Screech.
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[cleverdevil] Awesome, that'll come in useful if I actually get around to starting that IndieWeb podcast I am thinking of ?
# [cleverdevil] This also makes me want to re-iterate my desire for an updated release of Known.
# [cleverdevil] Lots of progress seems to have been made since 0.9.2.
# [cleverdevil] I don't think so, no.
# [cleverdevil] I mean, not without acting as a fork, which actually might not be a bad idea at this point.
# [chrisaldrich] I recall kylewm saying that a new release would be dropping sometime shortly. I think it's now been more than a year since 0.9.2 was released.
# [chrisaldrich] But that was also before benwerd made his most recent change.
# [cleverdevil] To be fair, there's plenty of activity going on in GitHub, and I know that there's at least one major change (moving from TinyMCE to Quill) that just landed recently.
# [cleverdevil] It might just need to bake for a little bit more before release.
# [cleverdevil] Yeah, its - https://quilljs.com
# [chrisaldrich] I think that major change to quill may have been rolled back to TinyMCE again, though some may be playing around with it.
# [cleverdevil] nods.
# [cleverdevil] I'm (hopefully) going to be moving exclusively to posting longer-form posts via `vim` in the next month or two.
# [cleverdevil] So, I don't care too much about TinyMCE vs. Quill anyway ?
# [chrisaldrich] aaronpk, are you considering making it 200 days of indieweb? ?
# [cleverdevil] Haha
# [cleverdevil] 100 days is enough!
# [chrisaldrich] two 100 days projects simultaneously can certainly burn you out...
# [cleverdevil] I'm also seriously considering starting to work on the NextCloud News app to make it an IndieWeb-reader (with the ability to post to my site via micropub).
# [cleverdevil] Its a very good starting point.
# [cleverdevil] Much more modern than most of the other feed aggregators and readers out there.
# [cleverdevil] Only major downside for me right now is that it doesn't support the Fever API.
# [chrisaldrich] feed /reader s are certainly a major missing piece of the indieweb.
# [chrisaldrich] though if some of the "commercial" readers would support micropub, that issue might disappear as an itch for many
# [cleverdevil] I actually think they're also one of the biggest market opportunities.
# [cleverdevil] Its sort of why I think Micro.blog is so important – its essentially providing both critical mass of compliant IndieWeb sites *and* a simple IndieWeb-compliant reader.
# [cleverdevil] What are your major concerns?
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aaronpk i've written about it a little. here's why I shut down Monocle: https://aaronparecki.com/2016/04/26/3/monocle
# aaronpk and here's what I was using instead, and continue to use: https://aaronparecki.com/2015/08/29/8/why-i-live-in-irc
# [cleverdevil] Right, we discussed that a bit when I was in PDX, that's a super interesting way to consume content.
# [chrisaldrich] If you think about it, most of the popular social silos are really readers first and content posting interfaces a distant second.
# [cleverdevil] The integrated experience is pretty critical, I think.
# [cleverdevil] Removes a lot of the friction.
# [cleverdevil] Exactly, chrisaldrich, most of these silos are consume-first.
# [chrisaldrich] I was always surprised that WordPress didn't have a built in reader prominently included in their product.
# [cleverdevil] Yes, and actually WordPress.com has something like this, IIRC.
# [chrisaldrich] aaronpk, I think that's part of the popularity of feedly, the ability to quickly/easily crosspost to social silos.
# [cleverdevil] There are plenty of good desktop apps that do this as well, including Reeder.
# [cleverdevil] Oh, and ReadKit,
# [chrisaldrich] Feedly was one of the big winners when google reader shut down. It's probably got the largest list of features in its competitive group.
# [cleverdevil] I don't think its quite enough, but getting some of these aggregators/readers to support IndieWeb would be huge.
# [chrisaldrich] supporting micropub would be a huge first step certainly.