#known 2017-10-26

2017-10-26 UTC
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jeremycherfas For what it is worth, my Known is version 0.9.9 Build 2017091201 IndiePub version ).2 hosted on a Dreamhost VPS to which I have made no changes.
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jeremycherfas The IndiePub plugin is supposedly deprecated, in core. But with that plugin disabled, there are no endpoints visible. Am I missing something?
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jeremycherfas @manton: Possible breakthrough. For the firswt time. OSX app has responded with Micropub API settings have been updated. Will now try to post.
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jeremycherfas No dice! Error sending post.
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jeremycherfas Ah, OK. I now understand about the plugin being deprecated. It is still a plugin, but is now part of the Idno plugins. Got it.
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mapkyca not really deprecated, but nobody has had much time to do much dev on it so it's probably suffered from bitrot...
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Loqi mapkyca: [cleverdevil] left you a message 1 week, 1 day ago: thanks for letting me know, I went ahead and created an issue here - https://github.com/idno/Known/issues/1924 ... happy to provide any additional info!
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jeremycherfas mapkyca I have been trying to sort out the problem of posting from the micro.blog app to Known. The hard part is, it works for some people, but not for me.
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jeremycherfas I have also had difficulty in the past importing a downloaded RSS backup. If there were a guaranteed way of backing up and restoring I would be prepared to attempt a fresh install from the public zip.
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mapkyca You could try the later builds for import export, and failing data would always be interesting to see. Re microblog, it's probably a connection issue. Hard to debug unless we can get curl output or something from microblog
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mapkyca but like i said, not really done much dev so it's probably not kept track of api changes
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jeremycherfas Quill is still OK though.
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mapkyca likely some quirk between your install/server setup and mb then...
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mapkyca if, as you say, others are having no problems posting the same things
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jeremycherfas I think some are having problems and others are not.
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mapkyca need more data then .. :/
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mapkyca willing to bet there's something in the response/not in the response which your server is spitting out, that others aren't, but that quill is quietly handling/ignoring
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jeremycherfas I cannot see anything in my logs.
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jeremycherfas Would it show there?
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jeremycherfas As for import/export, I didn't get much interest when I last mentioned it. :(
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mapkyca if it's in server response, no. It'll be in the result that mb gets back from the api calls. Can you install a version of MB yourself? I can't recall if it's installable. If you can if you can replicate the fault on that then you could compare the response from your known and a working one elsewhere
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mapkyca or if you can replicate with just straight curl
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mapkyca basically you're looking for a difference to the response between working/not working for the same requests
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jeremycherfas I don't think one can install micro.blog. But I have suggested to manton that looking at CURL might supply answers.
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[cleverdevil] I’m just boarding my flight home, but when I’m up in the air with WiFi I’ll try and reconnect here and see if I can help.
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jeremycherfas Thanks cleverdevil
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[cleverdevil] Sure thing!
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jeremycherfas mapkyca I have access to phpadmin and could export my Known database. Could I then reimport if necessary?
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[cleverdevil] Okay so I’m delayed in departure sitting at the gate. I can help out for a bit but only from my phone.
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[cleverdevil] It sounds like Quill works, but not Micro.blog. Is that right?
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jeremycherfas That is right.
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[cleverdevil] One common thing I’ve seen that can cause problems is a mismatch between http and https or a prefix mismatch (www.domain.com vs domain.com).
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jeremycherfas Known is at stream.jeremycherfas.net and both stream and jeremycherfas.nt have Let's Encrypt.
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[cleverdevil] Are you certain that you’re supplying the proper full URL to Micro.blog and that Known reports the same URL back and forth?
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[cleverdevil] OK.
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[cleverdevil] It appears that you are allowing both HTTP and HTTPS.
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jeremycherfas I'm supplying https://stream.jeremycherfas.net/ to micro.blog. DSo you think I should try /profile?
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[cleverdevil] I’m wondering if you should try bare HTTP?
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[cleverdevil] Maybe Known is reporting the non-SSL endpoint to Micro.blog or something.
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jeremycherfas I thought I had changed the htaccess. Maybe I haven't
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[cleverdevil] Yeah forcing SSL would be wise.
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jeremycherfas Let me try that first. Maybe I only did it for jeremycherfas.net, not for the sub-domain.
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[cleverdevil] Cool. Let me know what you find! I’m limited to what I can easily do from my phone until we take off. Once I’m up in the air I can pull out my laptop and be a little more useful ?
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jeremycherfas I don't want to disturb your flight!
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[cleverdevil] Not a big deal. Happy to help.
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jeremycherfas But I reckon fixing forcing SSL is probably worth doing anyway.
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[cleverdevil] Indeed.
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jeremycherfas Will this do it:
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jeremycherfas RewriteCond %{HTTPS} off
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jeremycherfas RewriteRule ^(.*)$ https://%{HTTP_HOST}%{REQUEST_URI} [L,R=301]
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jeremycherfas Looks like that worked.
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jeremycherfas Will try micro.blog again.
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[cleverdevil] Cool. I have something slightly different but if it works roll with it.
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[cleverdevil] It’s hard for me to copy/paste from iOS terminal app to here ?
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jeremycherfas I can believe it.
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jeremycherfas OK, that didn't work. Will try shifting the end point to /profile.
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[cleverdevil] Can’t hurt to try!
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jeremycherfas Still no dice. I may as well record what I tried and then give up again.
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jeremycherfas Oh no, one more thing to try /profile/jeremy I am a single user, but it can't hurt.
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jeremycherfas As I feared ...
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[cleverdevil] One other thing I’d consider is setting up a totally fresh install just for testing purposes on the same VPS under a different sub domain.
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[cleverdevil] If it works, then it’s something specific to that one Known install.
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[cleverdevil] If it doesn’t then it may be something to do with the VPS configuration.
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jeremycherfas Yup. I had thought of that, although I was also a bit worried about how to export and re-import my DB. The last time I tried that it would not work at all.
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jeremycherfas I asked ^^^ if I can use export import from phpmyadmin to do that. Could I?
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[cleverdevil] I wouldn’t bother with export and import.
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[cleverdevil] Just set up a totally fresh and blank Known instance.
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jeremycherfas Yes, but if it works, what then? I don't want to lose the old contents.
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[cleverdevil] If it works, then we can talk about how to get your data moved, or you can just point the working install to the old database and see if that makes things work.
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[cleverdevil] MySQL dump and reload is pretty easy. I can help with that if needed later.
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jeremycherfas Ah, right. Just edit the config.ini?
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[cleverdevil] Yup.
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jeremycherfas Well, it is getting pretty late here, so I'll maybe save that for tomorrow.
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jeremycherfas Eliminating possibilities is also extremely useful. Thanks for your help. Safe travels.
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[cleverdevil] Cool. No worries. We will get you working eventually! ?
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jeremycherfas Cleverdevil++ For help and advice.
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