#known 2018-10-12

2018-10-12 UTC
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@mapkyca ↩️ @ManicGrant @withknown @benwerd I suspect it'll be worth rolling up the http://withknown.com estate at some point soon....? (twitter.com/_/status/1050693128108290049)
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benwerd I thought I'd already given Loqi ops
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Loqi benwerd: aaronpk left you a message 1 week, 3 days ago: when you get a chance can you give Loqi control of this channel? /msg chanserv flags #knownchat Loqi +*
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aaronpk you have to give loqi permaops through chanserv
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aaronpk otherwise it gets reset periodically
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benwerd Got it. Done!
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benwerd I've had two weeks of travel (NYC last week, Vancouver now) so I'm a bit behind / out of it
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benwerd Sorry about that
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benwerd And thanks
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[tantek] Curious what use-cases the “JSON-LD” mentioned above is/are for. The default <head> on Known pages is getting rather big with lots of meta stuff that’s unclear who consumes and why
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[tantek] Is there a bug filed on the problem of explicit OG/twittercards erroneously making someone’s avatar/icon the preview image of all their posts/permalinks?
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[tantek] (Speaking is bad meta)
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[tantek] (Speaking of bad meta)
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[kevinmarks] that is annoying
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[jgmac1106] my guess the edu market where there is an install base
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[jgmac1106] I think Known is LTI compliant and that would require use of JSON-LD
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[jgmac1106] but nobody uses except for handshakes between different platforms, analytics platforms and such prefer JSON-LD, and that's big business
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benwerd I'm not sure there
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benwerd I'm not sure there's a bug about that ^^^ but it's on my list to fix. Will file it now
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benwerd OK, filed.
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benwerd Known does attempt to be LTI compliant, and there will be more automated tests added around that; the idea is also to be relatively agnostic as to which data clients want to consume. JSON-LD isn't my favorite, but it's used by a few downstream tools, and doesn't add much overhead.
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[cleverdevil] I'm still angling for all content to be readily accessible as MF2 JSON 😉
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[cleverdevil] (Without parsing!)
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benwerd I'm not against it! But maybe as a separate template?
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[cleverdevil] A lot of it goes back to this ticklet - https://github.com/idno/Known/issues/2142
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Loqi [cleverdevil] #2142 Post Type Discovery implementation
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[cleverdevil] Will really require a ContentType refactor.
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[cleverdevil] My ultimate goal is to think of Known as a repository for MF2 JSON content that is smart about allowing me to query it, render it, etc.
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[jgmac1106] thx for info [benwerd], just trying to learn all the differences still, Nate will be happy is hounding me for not using OBI 2.0 for webmention badges
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[jgmac1106] and that is a perfect thread as I am learning post type vs post type discovery thx [cleverdevil]
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[jgmac1106] and a reference to "every like is a bookmark but not every bookmark is a like" in an odd sorta way
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[tantek] what is LTI?
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[tantek] wait Loqi doesn't answer here?
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[jgmac1106] was syndication stripped from 9.9.a? I was a convoy user but figured that what was taken out, I recreated a twiiter app and am using a new token but when I add it I don't see my account under settings>twitter
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