#known 2019-06-30

2019-06-30 UTC
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@jgmac1106 Just a reminder the @withknown Open Collective will hold our first meeting at 9'00 PDT time at @Mozilla #pdx during the #IndieWeb Summit. cc/ @mapkyca (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/CI2bq) (twitter.com/_/status/1145314736965398534)
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nekr0z Just wondering: how much GDPR-compliant is a Known site by default?
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[jgmac1106] Not a lawyer nor do I live in EU but folks take the privacy seriously and if it is just your personal website...
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nekr0z /quit
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jeremycherfas Standing by ...
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jeremycherfas Remoting in
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[jgmac1106] I am here gonna switch the Zoom link not to main room
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[jgmac1106] one sec will post
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[jgmac1106] [mapkyca] around?
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jeremycherfas I see him in main rrom
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jeremycherfas If you change zoom, post fresh link here. I just followed the link in https://indieweb.org/2019/Schedule
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[jgmac1106] https://zoom.us/j/7012777223
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[jgmac1106] yes use the yellow room. I need to switch can't use the main room too loud
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plindner[m] ah there it is.. omw
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[jgmac1106] I will ping marcus on twitter
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jeremycherfas In
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[jgmac1106] https://etherpad.indieweb.org/%C3%85m%C3%A5l
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[jgmac1106] https://etherpad.indieweb.org/Known_Collective
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[mapkyca] not really hearing much of the conversation - some 80s music and distorted background. Think I might be hearing Ben, but who knows.
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jeremycherfas You in the wrong room marcus
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jeremycherfas See note ^
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[cleverdevil] Ah, maybe you’re on the wrong link?
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[jgmac1106] had to switch room
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[jgmac1106] https://zoom.us/j/7012777223
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[davidmead] Any word on import being fixed for Known at the summit?
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jeremycherfas I'll ask
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jeremycherfas From another Known site or for others.
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jeremycherfas Marcus says it has been on his list for a long time, and it is hard. Maybe could be done with a Micropub bridge.
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jeremycherfas Mysql to mysql has been done and does work; postgres and Mongo make life more difficult.
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jeremycherfas General idea to focus on Micropub.
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jeremycherfas And it is over.
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[davidmead] thx
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[mapkyca] Great chat folks! Seems a shame to call it, it felt like we were just getting started!
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[davidmead] thinking WP to Known
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[mapkyca] wp -> known does "work", to certain values of "work"... again, it's tricky as there are a lot of variables
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jeremycherfas Yeah, shame we had to end it there. Thanks Marcus and the others.
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[mapkyca] might be worth exploring the import stuff as part of the CI pipeline, so we can throw lots of different stuff at it
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[mapkyca] I think that may have even been suggested by someone in the past
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[davidmead] thx [mapkyca] i’ll look for the next zipped build on your site and give it another go
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[cleverdevil] Awesome start. Let’s get another chat on the calendar!
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[cleverdevil] No reason we have to confine ourselves to these calls during IndieWeb Summit.
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[cleverdevil] I will be doing a few minor things today during the hack day.
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jeremycherfas I'd be up for more chats, maybe once a quarter?
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[cleverdevil] Agreed [jeremycherfas]
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[davidmead] Oh I see there’s a zipped version from 2019-06-14 on Marcus’s site. Can I just unzip and FTP all of that to my server?
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nekr0z [davidmead]: Yep, it _should_ basically work. Trying shouldn't hurt, as long as you backup things first.
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[davidmead] thx @nekr0z. i have 0.9.9.a installed already so I’ll just overwrite apart from config, uploads etc.
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nekr0z [davidmead]: I just git cloned master to my server and git fetch new versions. It works, but needs 'composer update' from time to time. Zipped versions supposedly don't need that.
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nekr0z [davidmead]: Anyway, you can always overwrite back with the version that is Known (pun intended) to work on your site.
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[davidmead] the composer bit is what i want to avoid, so this is good
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nekr0z By the way, on a totally unrelated topic: I recently started seeing a lot of 404s in my logs, all of them are like my.domain/index.php?/something. I'm not sure whether it's my .htaccess tweaking (to basically force everything to https) or some recent update to Known itself. There aren't supposed to be any links with index.php? in them generated on site, are there?
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[davidmead] I can't help you there I'm afraid
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[cleverdevil] Hmm...
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[cleverdevil] Working on a new feature for my site...
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[mapkyca] Can't think of any recent changes that would cause that. Does sound like a slightly screwed htaccess
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[cleverdevil] Does Webservice::get actually pass headers?
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[cleverdevil] I am doing this:
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[cleverdevil] );
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[cleverdevil] 'action' => 'channels'
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[cleverdevil] 'Authorization' => 'Bearer ' . $token
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[cleverdevil] $response = Webservice::get($endpoint, array(
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[cleverdevil] ``` $headers = array(
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[cleverdevil] ), $headers);
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[cleverdevil] Oops, sorry for the nasty paste, but you get the idea.
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[cleverdevil] The endpoint is claiming that I am not sending an authorization header...
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[mapkyca] Should pass headers, aye
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[cleverdevil] Weird.
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[cleverdevil] I shall debug a bit then to make sure.
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[cleverdevil] I think I am passing things appropriately there.
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[mapkyca] mayhaps target httpbin.org and see what it's actually sending..?
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[cleverdevil] Yah, good idea.
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[cleverdevil] Confirmed: headers are not being sent.
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nekr0z mapkyca: yep, htaccess it is, git checkout origin/master confirmed that - wonder why I didn't think of trying it earlier. Well, the only thing left is to figure out what's actually wrong :)))
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[cleverdevil] Ah... you're not supposed to pass an associative array.
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[cleverdevil] Its just an array of standard header strings, fully formed.
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[mapkyca] I wonder if it should be agnostic on that
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jbove Hi all. Sorry that I missed the Indieweb Summit chat. Checking the chat notes on etherpad now. My webhosting provider supports Installatron installations of WordPress, Drupal and other CMSes. It would be awesome it Known could also be installed through it. See https://installatron.com/
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jbove Recommending an application to be added to Installatron requires creating a ticket and they will review submission: https://installatron.com/remote/faq#recommend
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jbove Cool features include backing up existing instances and automatic upgrades through Installatron.
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[cleverdevil] Okay, "following" page is largely there! https://cleverdevil.io/following
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[cleverdevil] h-feed of h-entries with u-follow-of, automatically generated from my microsub subscriptions
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[cleverdevil] (Still need the subscribe date/time, which aaronpk is working on in Aperture).
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[jgmac1106] https://gist.github.com/jgmac1106/4bc53c884f45d7eb2383b6d7a85bfc70
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jbove cleverdevil That's looking pretty neat! Is this amazing "following" page going to work like a Known plugin, or would it require more manual installation?
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[cleverdevil] Its a Known plugin.
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[cleverdevil] Currently, its up on GitHub embedded into my CleverCustomize plugin.
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[cleverdevil] But, I do plan on extracting it out into its own plugin eventually.
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[cleverdevil] https://github.com/cleverdevil/CleverCustomize/blob/master/Pages/Following.php
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jbove Thanks! Going to test it later.
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