#known 2021-01-29

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@TYLTK
@withknown Hey can you stop deleting my blog or at least respond to any of my 5 emails?
(twitter.com/_/status/1354978655223468035)
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[jeremycherfas]
This is a very bad look. No response to [kevinmarks] either.
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travis-ci
idno/known#6312 (dev - cddc4ac : Marcus Povey): The build passed.
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[KevinMarks]
[benatwork] is it time for us to migrate off withknown hosting?
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[mapkyca]
I'm in the middle of a house move, and don't have broadband yet. The computer that has my access keys on is still boxed unfortunately so I can't do any devops rn. Looks like Beanstalk instance has filled up its logs again _sigh_ ... not sure what Kevin's issue.
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dkozel
I didn't realize that known still ran any hosted services.
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[KevinMarks]
[benatwork] and [mapkyca] have been very generous at keeping the old hosted accounts running
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dkozel
Is there any way to contribute to the guides? They do still talk about the hosted options, but are from 2015
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[chrisaldrich]
dkozel, the repository for the documents is now at https://github.com/idno/known/tree/dev/docs, the online version of the docs at http://docs.withknown.com/en/latest/plugins/community/ has a broken "edit on Github" link I think because the project changed from using a path that included the word "master" and the path needs to be fixed.
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[benatwork]
Oh gosh.
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[benatwork]
OK. A few different things here:
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[benatwork]
1. I'm in the process of shutting down the company and taking full control over the hosting service. I don't plan to shut it down
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[benatwork]
2. I don't understand why it keeps going offline without restoring. I'm going in to kick it again.
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[benatwork]
3. I'll try and get it to a good place again this weekend.
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[benatwork]
4. If it's really that the instance has filled up its logs ... that's actually an easy fix
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[benatwork]
5. I'll fix the guides and website
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[benatwork]
I wish I had more bandwidth to deal with this properly. I don't feel good about any of it.
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[benatwork]
I actually do check my known email, but these didn't reach me for some reason. I'll check into that too.
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dkozel
Hi [benatwork] Happy to help with pointing out obvious points in the docs/guide that point to the old info
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[benatwork]
Yeah! Would love open source contributions too!
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dkozel
I am trying to figure out what to run my own site with and known looks great but has clearly bitrotted a bit in the docs
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[chrisaldrich]
[benatwork]++ for your work and leadership during difficult times.
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Loqi
[benatwork] has 3 karma in this channel over the last year (6 in all channels)
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dkozel
Hehe. I'm trying to use a full package so I don't have to know web-dev. But docs! I can words, sentences, and even paragraphs!
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[benatwork]
Yay words!
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Loqi
😄
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[benatwork]
I would dearly love to have more bandwidth to work on Known, but demanding day job + being a part time carer keeps thwarting me. Doing my best and I really appreciate everyone's patience.
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[benatwork]
I've fixed the log issue and I'm rebuilding the hosting environment.
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[benatwork]
Also, Known should generate fewer logs.
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dkozel
<3
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[benatwork]
A thing I'd love: I can't always monitor this channel, but I _do_ monitor when people mention me. I'm setting up uptime monitoring so I should be notified going forward, but if you do notice something else, give me. a shout.
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dkozel
Do you have enough mods on the github issues tracker?
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[benatwork]
We're doing better there (in part thanks to Paul Lindner) but all help gratefully received!
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[benatwork]
2. The database instance grew beyond its bounds. Also my fault.
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[benatwork]
1. Logs were full on servers because inexplicably auto-rotation was turned off. Definitely my fault.
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[benatwork]
Logs now auto-rotate and the db instance will auto-grow to a certain level, so neither of these things will be a blocker in the future.
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[benatwork]
OK. Full diagnosis:
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[benatwork]
In addition, there are some blogs on the hosted service that need to be removed. I'll work on that, which will free up a great deal of storage.
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aaronpk
oh dear, heh "need to be removed"
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[benatwork]
they .. do
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[benatwork]
I appreciate the support of the brazilian porn community but.
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dkozel
As a community, are there costs to hosting the main site that should be spread around?
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[benatwork]
It does cost a non-negligible amount of money. But I'm going to eat it for now - I don't fully understand the implications of making the hosted service community-run.
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dkozel
OK
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dkozel
Happy to chat if I can be helpful
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[benatwork]
I also think server infrastructure looks different in 2021 to how it did in 2014, so I think we can probably exponentially bring down the costs with a few changes
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[benatwork]
Thank you!
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[benatwork]
One last thing for now: I could really use some feedback wrt this community and how I should show up in it. It's impossible to offend me - I just would find it really useful to understand how I can provide the most value. So if you do have feedback for me, I'd love to hear it, either in the channel, over DM, or I can provide an anonymous link.
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dkozel
I help run the GNU Radio project and do a lot of the fundraising for it
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[benatwork]
Nice!
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[benatwork]
It's all back online and should now stay that way.
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dkozel
Thanks Ben
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[jeremycherfas]
So great to see this activity, even though I host myself. Benatwork++
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Loqi
Benatwork has 4 karma in this channel over the last year (7 in all channels)
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[KevinMarks]
Thanks Ben, and if there's things I could do to help let me know
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plindner[m]
A reminder that we have https://opencollective.com/known and some folks get submit invoices for real work.