#meta 2017-09-28

2017-09-28 UTC
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schmarty !tell tantek,aaronpk looks like the sponsor-logo template requires logo files to be uploaded to a special directory (/sponsor-logos/full/). can i get someone to add https://indieweb.org/File:this-week-indieweb-audio-edition-logo-2017-09.png there? or instructions on how? thx!
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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sknebel yay, we finally found a good private meeting location for HWC Berlin!
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Loqi yay!
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schmarty hooray!
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aaronpk good morning
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Loqi aaronpk: schmarty left you a message 1 hour, 18 minutes ago: looks like the sponsor-logo template requires logo files to be uploaded to a special directory (/sponsor-logos/full/). can i get someone to add https://indieweb.org/File:this-week-indieweb-audio-edition-logo-2017-09.png there? or instructions on how? thx!
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aaronpk schmarty: did you mean to send a different link?
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Loqi guten morgen
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schmarty aaronpk: i wasn't sure if the direct wiki image link would be what you needed, so i linked you to the wiki page for the image.
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aaronpk oh you do in fact want the "This Week in the IndieWeb" image as a sponsor logo?
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schmarty aaronpk: oops, good point. i forgot that i removed "Audio Edition" from the logo >_<
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schmarty aaronpk: updated!
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aaronpk k! it's called this-week-audio-edition.png
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schmarty thanks!
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schmarty hmm. is there something special i need to do to get it to work with the sponsor-logo template? i'm trying to dupe the mozilla logo and links on /2017/NYC#Sponsors
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schmarty logo=this-week-audio-edition isn't producing an image
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aaronpk ah my bad
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schmarty (i'm not that great at navigating mediawiki, can't quite figure out where the sponsor-logo template is defined)
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schmarty argh of course the template link is right there in the edit page, ha
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aaronpk should work now
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aaronpk i had the file named wrong
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martymcgui.re edited /2017/NYC (+280) "/* Sponsors */ add this week audio edition as sponsor" (view diff)
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schmarty added, thanks! it's all much more clear once i found the template definition, heh
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schmarty thinks TWITIWAE needs a real logo and possibly new name... ?
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aaronpk heh
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schmarty maybe it's time to start a page about what a podcast called "The IndieWeb Podcast" would look like and get other folks' thoughts / contributions.
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aaronpk that'd be fun
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aaronpk i'm also interested in figuring out how to make it easier for more people to contribute audio, and reduce the amount of post-production time overall
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GWG I like audio production
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schmarty honestly the audio production part of the podcast is the easiest
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schmarty summarizing all the news and wiki edits tends to take the most time (see /User:Martymcgui.re/this-week-indieweb-podcast )
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aaronpk it's easy for you cause you have experience with it :)
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schmarty i guess i should have said quickest rather than easiest.
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GWG I try to do live to tape as much as possible
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schmarty it is "easy" because all the thinking work is done at that point. there is a script to read, in small chunks, where each chunk is pretty quick to edit for oopses and run filters, and then it slots into a particular place in a template in audacity.
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GWG Let's talk Sunday
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schmarty yes! looking forward to it.
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GWG Me too, disappointed about Saturday.
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schmarty you will be missed on Saturday!
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schmarty that reminds me
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schmarty !tell tantek i picked up a chromebook and logitech c920 that should be able to stream to a Hangouts on Air
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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GWG To be brutally honest, I would rather be there than be part of a 26 hour fasting and praying binge, but the things we do for belief.
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GWG schmarty, page from my book there.
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GWG I recommend a usb boundary microphone as well
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schmarty GWG i thought i remembered you bringing something similar
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GWG I did. Chromebooks are low maintenance
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schmarty ah, right. i couldn't find evidence online as to which USB boundary mics should work with a chromebook.
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GWG All of them
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GWG Anything that uses the standard usb audio driver
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schmarty the c920 has a "not terrible" mic, but i might be able to grab a boundary mic tomorrow.
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GWG I have three
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schmarty as long as it's not from B&H... they are first on my list for things like this but are being boycotted for union busting
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aaronpk the problem i've had with using the mic on the c920 camera is that you need the camera to be far away in order to get a good view, and then it's too far to really pick up good audio
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GWG They will be closing early tomorrow anyway
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schmarty ooh good point.
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GWG I never use the built in if I can help it
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schmarty GWG: how long are the cables on your mics?
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GWG For the xlr boundary microphone, 15.
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GWG I bought a similar usb cable for the USB one
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schmarty wow there is a wide range of price/quality on these...
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GWG I paid 80
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aaronpk don't get the one that looks like this http://www.mxlmics.com/microphones/web-conferencing/AC-404/images/hr1.jpg
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aaronpk it's under a few different brand names, all clones from china i'm sure
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schmarty i'm tempted to get an XLR mic since I have my zoom h6 with me and it can act as a USB audio source.
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aaronpk much better :)
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aaronpk <3 the Zoom h6
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aaronpk i have this one and it's great http://aaron.pk/asin/B00A361UMS
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schmarty maybe i will just get a long USB mini cable and use the H6 as the audio. while not truly omnidirectional i bet the mics that come with it are Good Enough.
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GWG I have an Audiotechnica I think
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aaronpk yeah those built-in mics are really good
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schmarty aaronpk: i was just consulting your favorite-things
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aaronpk i might need to add some more things to it :)
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aaronpk oh looks liek that mic is already on it
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GWG I need to add notes to the wiki on my stuff
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aaronpk hm i should split out the audio stuff from that vide list
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aaronpk video
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GWG aaronpk, I don't have a Gulfstream though
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aaronpk i've been recording my microcast in between clothes hanging up in my closet...
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GWG aaronpk, there are so many jokes there I will not type
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aaronpk they are an excellent sound barrier and insulator
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GWG I listened to the first ones on an elliptical in a deserted basement
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aaronpk i'm due for another one, i should try to do that this morning
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GWG Aaronpk, I will save it for the treadmill.
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schmarty ok, just set up chromebook and i think i understand how to do a hangouts on air. next up... should i get added to the IndieWeb youtube channel so i can direct it there?
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aaronpk yea!
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schmarty whee! i don't know how to do that.
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aaronpk let me see if i can find that in the new UI
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aaronpk got it, just need your google account name
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aaronpk added! you should have an invite
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schmarty thanks! looking...
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aaronpk once you accept the invite you'll have an option to switch youtube accounts on youtube.com
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schmarty i am not sure where to look for the invite. is there an invite inbox on youtube.com?
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aaronpk probably in email
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schmarty not seeing it :|
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aaronpk ugh i don't know where else to look. maybe on google plus
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schmarty hmm, i had notifications on G+ limited to people in my "extended circles". i've now set it to "anyone" (and followed the IndieWebCamp acct on G+)
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schmarty you might have to uninvite and re-invite me
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aaronpk whjy do they make this so confusing
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aaronpk k try now
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schmarty ? still looking ?
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schmarty welp, googled for the answer and found the secret sauce
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schmarty visit https://myaccount.google.com/brandaccounts
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aaronpk :sigh:
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schmarty there's a "pending invitations" link
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schmarty looks like that did it! ?
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schmarty (sorry, i know that read link instructions for you, aaronpk )
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tantek whoa scrollback
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Loqi tantek: schmarty left you a message 6 hours, 41 minutes ago: looks like the sponsor-logo template requires logo files to be uploaded to a special directory (/sponsor-logos/full/). can i get someone to add https://indieweb.org/File:this-week-indieweb-audio-edition-logo-2017-09.png there? or instructions on how? thx!
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Loqi tantek: schmarty left you a message 2 hours, 32 minutes ago: i picked up a chromebook and logitech c920 that should be able to stream to a Hangouts on Air
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schmarty rad, i should be good to go!
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tantek schmarty, awesome!
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tantek with that and my extra laptop with separate HD camera + mic we should be good to go for multiple sessions in parallel
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schmarty tantek: not sure if you saw my message above, i made a pass for a sign to hang in the lobby of the dalberg bldg
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tantek great!
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tantek is still reading logs
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schmarty ... i might not have linked it here, hah
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schmarty tantek: here's the first pass IWC NYC lobby sign: https://rs.schmarty.net/marty/public/shares/170928-1411-IWCNYC-downstairs-sign-paths.svg
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tantek looks good
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tantek I see a strange "-" over the Y in Sunday
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tantek huh I can select it
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tantek "- "
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schmarty haha, oops, it's a spare text field
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Loqi schmarty: lol
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schmarty new revision, minus the minus: https://rs.schmarty.net/marty/public/shares/170928-2009-IWCNYC-downstairs-sign-paths.svg
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tantek alright well I've got about three projects already that I want to do/finish for IWC NYC
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tantek maybe I should add them to the wiki
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schmarty i should do a brain dump of mine. they are currently a swarm of distractions in my brain.
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Loqi yea
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tantek I've been braindumping them to a text file but might as well share to encourage others to do so
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tantek how about you GWG, anything in particular you're feeling like working on at IWC NYC?
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tantek shall we use the Project List?
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tantek going to hack my entry a bit
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tantek.com edited /2017/NYC/Projects_List (+280) "/* Participant Projects */ try adding a For this weekend section to my projects" (view diff)
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tantek done https://indieweb.org/2017/NYC/Projects_List#Participant_Projects
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tantek !tell schmarty, GWG check out how I added the things I'm thinking of working on this weekend, and add your own https://indieweb.org/2017/NYC/Projects_List#Participant_Projects
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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schmarty thanks, tantek!
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tantek schmarty can you help draft a brief "Excited to see you this weekend" email to IWC NYC attendees that aaronpk can send out to the tito ticketholders? maybe include basic Q&A, where to find answers, consider some projects to work on, see for example https://indieweb.org/2017/NYC/Projects_List#Participant_Projects
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tantek thanks schmarty
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schmarty looks up the email that aaronpk sent for IWS attendees...
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tantek schmarty, I started brainstorming what could go into an update here: https://indieweb.org/2017/NYC/Planning#Updates - feel free to write that up accordingly in the "Update 1" section!
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schmarty tantek: reading through aaronpk's update - i remembered that lunch on saturday was on our own while lunch on Sunday was provided. i think it might make sense for me to move my lunch sponsorship from saturday to sunday to match it.
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schmarty (as an incentive to bring people back on Sunday)
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tantek sounds good
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tantek Emma is going to join us at lunchtime on Saturday and then we can collectively decide some place to go get food and come back
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tantek usually works for smaller groups
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schmarty i also like the idea of having food in on sunday to encourage folks to keep hacking :}
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aaronpk Yeah! That’s the idea
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tantek indeed!
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tantek it's worked well to take a break during discussions to keep ideas germinating
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martymcgui.re edited /2017/NYC/Planning (+4437) "/* Update 1 */ draft of an email update" (view diff)
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tantek but also works well to allow for continuous blocks of coding / hacking time
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aaronpk sunday tends to be less strict of a session schedule so not having a scheduled lunch break where everyone goes out helps let people stay in flow
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tantek yeah
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schmarty tantek: draft created at /2017/NYC/Planning#Update_1 if you want to take a look
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tantek schmarty s/We'll have lunch/We'll have sponsored lunch
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tantek should I just edit?
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tantek taking a quick pass
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schmarty please do! thanks.
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schmarty whoops, i forgot to add a link to /2017/NYC/Projects_List#Participant_Projects !
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tantek got it
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tantek oh dear yelp link
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tantek need a foursquare link - this is NYC!
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tantek (this is looking really good)
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tantek.com edited /2017/NYC/Planning (+310) "/* Update 1 */ projects list etc." (view diff)
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martymcgui.re edited /2017/NYC/Projects_List (+261) "/* Participant Projects */ add some ideas" (view diff)
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schmarty aaronpk++ for the great IWS email :}
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tantek.com edited /2017/NYC/Planning (+61) "/* Breakfast and Lunch */ Foursquare too" (view diff)
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tantek schmarty - I think it looks great
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tantek made a few tweaks take a look and feel free to update more
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schmarty could update the yelp link to https://foursquare.com/explore?mode=url&ne=40.747436%2C-73.981896&openNow=true&q=Lunch&sw=40.742794%2C-73.988323
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tantek SGTM
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martymcgui.re edited /2017/NYC/Planning (-39) "/* Breakfast and Lunch */ replace yelp link w/ foursquare" (view diff)
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tantek schmarty I have to run but go ahead and have aaronpk send it out when you're ready!
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schmarty will do!
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tantek we can do one more tomorrow if we have anything to update
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schmarty okay, looks good to me.
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schmarty aaronpk: can you turn https://indieweb.org/2017/NYC/Planning#Update_1 into an email to IWCNYC ti.to ticketholders?
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schmarty from the IWS message you sent out, it seemed like you could personalize the names, so please replace PERSONNAME with whatever merge tags they use ;}
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schmarty hmm, should have used a tell.
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schmarty !tell aaronpk can you turn https://indieweb.org/2017/NYC/Planning#Update_1 into an email to IWC NYC ticketholders on ti.to? it's ready to go out. if you have merge tag abilities, please replace PERSONNAME w/ the actual attendee name. ;} thanks so much!
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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aaronpk yes! wil send out now
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Loqi aaronpk: schmarty left you a message 54 minutes ago: can you turn https://indieweb.org/2017/NYC/Planning#Update_1 into an email to IWC NYC ticketholders on ti.to? it's ready to go out. if you have merge tag abilities, please replace PERSONNAME w/ the actual attendee name. ;} thanks so much!
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aaronpk sent!
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schmarty ?
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schmarty aaronpk++ thanks for emailing all the peoples
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schmarty Does it also go out to the people who indie RSVP'd?
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GWG schmarty, tantek: As requested. Some projects
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Loqi GWG: tantek left you a message 2 hours, 58 minutes ago: check out how I added the things I'm thinking of working on this weekend, and add your own https://indieweb.org/2017/NYC/Projects_List#Participant_Projects