#meta 2017-12-17

2017-12-17 UTC
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ben_thatmustbeme
wonders if an autoban of knuddelsu707 by hostmask would be appropos
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ben_thatmustbeme
apparently the same happened in #social and #friendica
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jjuran
Also in #noisebridge
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Zegnat
Probably not, ben_thatmustbeme
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Zegnat
I am seeing a completely different host for the one that spammed in #whatwg
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Zegnat
also did /mode +R on himself, as he also got spammed by direct message
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sknebel
was quite confused until I turned off my ignore list... apparently I had their key phrase blocked from past incidents
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martymcgui.re
edited /events/2017-12-27-homebrew-website-club (+86) "/* US East */ Baltimore cancelled this week"
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ben_thatmustbeme
yeah, probably wouldn't do any good
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sknebel
editing our logs is something we can do
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sknebel
and occasionally there is more persistent spam, there a keyword block and having OPs in all timezones would help
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aaronpk
You can send a pull request or just directly edit the log files on github to remove those
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Zegnat
Will chat.indieweb.org sync back from git again?
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Zegnat
I don’t really like hard removing stuff from logs though. What about changing the type field of the lines to something like hidden/removed?
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Zegnat
sknebel https://indieweb.org/Leaders#Issues has an item on who can manage the different community communication aspects (Slack/IRC). Maybe add an item about having +o’s available in different timezones?
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Zegnat
https://github.com/indieweb/chat.indieweb.org/pull/41 - for people who want to think about hiding spam from the publicly displayed logs.
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Loqi
[Zegnat] #41 Allow lines to be hidden from display when they are marked as hidden in the log files.
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aaronpk
I agree, I can make a "redacted" format for the logs, might need to make up a property to add to the JSON for that line
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Zegnat
Adding another property is also an option. I was simply thinking about how we could make it work right now with the logs and display as is
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aaronpk
I've only had to remove a few spam lines before. I marked them as spam in the database and they weren't rendered in the html
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aaronpk
I don't think there's a good reason to have the mf2 logs be different from what is visible, especially since the spam chat permalinks would still work and could be quoted.
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Zegnat
I don’t really have a strong preference there. We could change it to not output the lines at all
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Zegnat
I really only want to not have to hard-remove from log files
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aaronpk
I don't mind keeping them in the storage marked as hidden but I don't want them to exist on our domain
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Zegnat
Alright, that would require a different PR. Could change it to return an empty string from the formatter. Or would you want a more complete removal earlier in the process?
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aaronpk
The formatted returning an empty string would work for the list views, and for permalinks should also return http 410
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Zegnat
Need to look where the code creates the permalink pages then. This was easy because I only needed to update the formatter ;)
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aaronpk
I think it's permalink.php
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aaronpk
yoy should see some examples there of returning 404
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aaronpk
poof those lines are marked as deleted from the logs and are not visible anymore
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Zegnat
aaronpk, did you mean to also delete a line from the logs?
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aaronpk
that must have happened between opening and saving the file
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Zegnat
got caught up with family and didn’t finish his PR
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Zegnat
Sorry for giving you more work