#meta 2018-03-21

2018-03-21 UTC
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@sl007
@EthanZ @DoroBaer I see. –"And I'm doing my share of work on open platforms"– off course - just did not get the "make facebook better". Do not make facebook better. Instead let's meet at https://indieweb.org/2018/Düsseldorf or https://indieweb.org/2018​Portland ;)
(twitter.com/_/status/976182107423768581)
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Loqi
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@ChrisAldrich
@jgkoomey @judell This is the general idea behind the #indieweb movement: https://indieweb.org For the price of registering your own domain and some hosting, you can run your own website and still interact with other websites in an open and distributed manner.
(twitter.com/_/status/976243326339993600)
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tantek
!tell chrisaldrich feels like a timely week to organize an ad hoc HWC LA - lots of folks you're chatting with would likely be interested
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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tantek
!tell aaronpk maybe you can do a live demo of your setup tomorrow night at HWC SF and we can try to video it?
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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aaronpk
oh not a bad idea
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aaronpk
i should practice tonight then
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aaronpk
good thing i already made a "demo mode" for it
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aaronpk
to hide my private feeds i'm following
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tantek
nice!
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tantek
aaronpk, want to invite local SF folks you know to the FB POSSE event for tomorrow? https://www.facebook.com/events/2109265296011618
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aaronpk
oh hm good idea
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tantek
also worth noting you'll be demoing your modern reader setup
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tantek
I feel this is very in the spirit of IndieWeb but not quite sure how to capture it: https://lifehacker.com/5688167/the-best-way-to-complain-is-to-make-things
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tantek
(I think it's also notable enough on its own to capture in WP but that's orthogonal to here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:James_Murphy_(electronic_musician)#Notable_quote:_The_best_way_to_complain_is_to_make_things )
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tantek
closest I can think of is creator
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tantek
what is a creator
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Loqi
A creator in the context of the IndieWeb is someone who owns their domain, uses it as their primary identity on the web, creates (for example, code, design, user experience) for their site, and openly shares at least some of those creations https://indieweb.org/creator
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tantek
what is scratch your own itch
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "scratch your own itch" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "scratch your own itch is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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tantek
what are itches
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Loqi
Itches, in the context of the indieweb, are individuals's personal sources of annoyances using the web or in particular their own website, that they use to itemize and prioritize what to create, design, build, and improve on their own website, often by first listing such "itches" on a section in their User: page https://indieweb.org/itches
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tantek
scratch your own itch is /itches#Why
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tantek
that's a good spot
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tantek
someone brought up the 'user' vs 'person'
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tantek
I've always preferred the way 'user' is expressed in the 1982 movie TRON
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tantek
and there is really no getting away from the term. it's in such wide use. user interface. user experience. user-centric.
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gRegorLove
tantek: earlier in -chat I half-joked "resisting the urge to define "user is who the indieweb fights for""
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Loqi
gRegorLove: tantek left you a message 4 days, 6 hours ago: any particular requests and/or minor iterative improvements for HWC event pages before I create a whole bunch for April (and maybe May & June?)
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tantek
gRegorLove: lol
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Loqi
[Chris Aldrich] A better way to subscribe to or follow sites on the open web
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Loqi
Thanks! We need one more person to confirm the retweet!
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tantek
clearly we need better marketing
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tantek
what is a hackatahon
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "hackatahon" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "hackatahon is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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tantek
er spelling
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tantek
what is a hackathon
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "hackathon" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "hackathon is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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tantek
that's probably ok
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tantek
good contrast with the healthier schedule we have for IWC / IWS
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sknebel
the (what seemed to me like a) shift of "hackathon" towards commercialized/competition has been weird
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tantek
indeed
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tantek
co-opting even
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sknebel
"hackday" seems to have at least somewhat survived (e.g. at IWCs :))
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sknebel
to the point that I generally ignore announcements of "hackathons" since 95% aren't what I'm looking for
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tantek
sknebel, yeah I treat "hackday" differently too
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tantek
though it seems to have been subsumed into "hackathon"
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tantek
(e.g. check wikipedia for both)
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gRegorLove
I prefer "create day" or similar over "hackday"
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gRegorLove
/2018/Baltimore has "Hacking" but /2018 has "Making". I like the latter.
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aaronpk
tantek: i'm about ready to head out, ok if i get to mozilla a bit early?
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tantek
sure - just let them know at the front desk that you're there for Homebrew Website Club meetup
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tantek
I'll be getting there just about 17:30 myself
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tantek
had a bit of an odd schedule today
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