#meta 2018-04-14

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tantek_ social media << 2018-04-07 Buzzfed: [https://www.buzzfeed.com/katienotopoulos/teens-also-sometimes-quit-social-media Teens Also Sometimes Quit Social Media] <blockquote> Adults talk a big game about #deletefacebook or taking a break from Twitter, but true digital natives actually know how to take a break for their own mental health. </blockquote
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Loqi ok, I added "2018-04-07 Buzzfed: [https://www.buzzfeed.com/katienotopoulos/teens-also-sometimes-quit-social-media Teens Also Sometimes Quit Social Media] <blockquote> Adults talk a big game about #deletefacebook or taking a break from Twitter, but true digital natives actually know how to take a break for their own mental health. </blockquote" to the "See Also" section of /social_media https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=46851&oldid=46595
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aaronpk Well that was a mess. Anyone want to go delete that from the logs?
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aaronpk That would have been pretty easy for Loqi to detect
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aaronpk and this has happened enough times now I'm considering automating a kick
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aaronpk Mentioning a URL more than 5 times in a minute -> kick
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aaronpk the only time someone legit mentions the same url repeatedly is when checking whether loqi's link preview works, and you need time to change it between tests and I don't think someone is going to make a change and test every 12 seconds 5 times in a row
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jjuran Mass nick highlights are another tell
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jjuran Also, you could tie into the karma system
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aaronpk Nick highlights are hard because Loqi doesn't currently know the current nick list
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jjuran Loqi knows everyone’s karma though, right? So be lenient on any poster with even 1 karma, but strict otherwise.
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aaronpk Hah
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aaronpk Not bad
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aaronpk Mind adding to https://github.com/aaronpk/Loqi/issues/25 ?
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Loqi [aaronpk] #25 spam prevention
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aaronpk style guide << https://cheri.micro.blog/2018/04/13/hello-this-is.html
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Loqi ok, I added "https://cheri.micro.blog/2018/04/13/hello-this-is.html" to the "See Also" section of /style-guide https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=46866&oldid=45936
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Loqi Hello! This is my first Micro.blog post. I’m excited about the potential of the indie web.
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jjuran done
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sebsel Do I have to clone the whole chatlog-repo in order to delete those spam-messages?
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sebsel Also: should we document this on /discuss?
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sebsel (or somewhere else and link?)
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sebsel Doing some research in the archive: seems like we can add deleted:true to those lines https://github.com/indieweb/indieweb-chat-archive/pull/1/commits/fb658a023a79ba3320cbe5f101d92f34f2fe94ca
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sebsel This is a weird instance where you can actually read the "code" in the repo to find chats about what happened with the PR :P
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Zegnat sebsel, There is a tutorial on the wiki for removing spam from logs. Including the Regex for find and replace
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Zegnat https://indieweb.org/IRC#How-to_remove_spam
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sebsel I should've just asked Loqi, I see now
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sebsel what is removing irc spam?
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Loqi Internet Relay Chat (abbreviated IRC), in particular the #indieweb channel on the irc.freenode.net server, is the primary community discussion forum for IndieWebCamp and anything about the IndieWeb https://indieweb.org/removing_irc_spam
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Zegnat Re https://chat.indieweb.org/dev/2018-04-14/1523675174561900 - I would have loved to kick the spammer but I don't have those rights.
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Loqi [tantek_] jjuran I'm on only via web interface - you'll have to ping zegnat or aaronpk
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Zegnat The fact we only have a few, and only US based, ops in the chart has been on the agenda for discussion a while now: https://indieweb.org/Leaders#Issues
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sebsel aaronpk: https://github.com/indieweb/indieweb-chat-archive/pull/8
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Loqi [sebsel] #8 remove spam 2018-04-14
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sebsel It wasn't that hard once you figure out how to do it.
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aaronpk Loqi has new powers
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Zegnat New powers? Where?
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aaronpk https://aaronparecki.com/2018/04/14/4/irc-spam
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Loqi [Aaron Parecki] I like the idea of giving the community the ability to help with this. That also happens to be the easiest thing to implement. Loqi now has a new !kick command. If you are +v (you're registered on irc-people), you can use the new !kick command You ...
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Zegnat Awesome!
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aaronpk want to try?
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not_really_a_spa hah oops
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not_really_a_spa try to kick me zegnat
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Zegnat !kick not_really_a_spa
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aaronpk uhoh
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Zegnat Woop, broke it!
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aaronpk oh
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aaronpk forgot to turn it on
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Zegnat Haha
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aaronpk try again
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Zegnat !kick not_really_a_spa
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aaronpk *ahem*
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aaronpk i'm on top of it
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aaronpk one more time
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Zegnat !kick not_really_a_spa
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aaronpk gah
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Zegnat Haha
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aaronpk !kick not_really_a_spa
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aaronpk aha
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not_really_a_spa now i've been here too long to be kicked
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not_really_a_spa try again
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aaronpk !kick not_really_a_spa
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Loqi not_really_a_spa joined 8 minutes ago and can no longer be kicked this way
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Zegnat !kick not_really_a_spa
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Loqi not_really_a_spa joined 8 minutes ago and can no longer be kicked this way
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Zegnat That worked :)
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aaronpk try on that one :)
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aaronpk !kick notaspammer
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Zegnat Sorry, I stepped afk for a second. Preparing dinner.
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sknebel nice!
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aaronpk got two more in there
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aaronpk watch this
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testiiiiiiing HEY EVERYONE LOOK AT THIS AWESOME VIDEO!!! http://example.com
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Loqi That looks like spam, bye!
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Zegnat Oof, harsh, Loqi. Hihi
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aaronpk documented: https://indieweb.org/Loqi#Anti-Spam
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aaronpk Now we wait for the next spam
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sknebel do you compare the username with the list, or can you easily check for +v in the tiktokbot callback?
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aaronpk There's a whole thing that makes the +v end up being sent with the payload to the tiktokbot book
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aaronpk hook
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aaronpk so the code doesn't have to look up anything external, it's already there
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aaronpk now i'm excited for the next spam wave hehe
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sknebel ok, more precisely: what do I need to to do so my bot can know +v people?
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sknebel :)
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aaronpk that should be part of the post request
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aaronpk you're using tiktokbot right?
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sknebel yes
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aaronpk should be available as "modes"
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sknebel nice
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aaronpk make sure you check for ops too, since Loqi doesn't set +v on channel ops
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sebsel oooh
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sebsel aaronpk++ for the anti-spam mechanics :D
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Loqi aaronpk has 53 karma in this channel (1620 overall)
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aaronpk bring it on freenode spammers
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Zegnat Don’t tempt them
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Zegnat Hmm, if Loqi kicks, any chance of it automatically marking the last X messages of the kicked person as deleted in the logs?
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sebsel I think it's nice to have a little more control over that?
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schmarty Loqi could make a PR to mark those lines as deleted and a human can approve?
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Zegnat s/a human/aaronpk/ ;)
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aaronpk that sounds a lot harder
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aaronpk loqi doesn't really have access to the logs
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grantcodes when is the next HWC?
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Loqi Homebrew Website Club Baltimore was on 2018-04-10 at Digital Harbor Foundation https://indieweb.org/next-hwc
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Zegnat When is the next HWC?
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Loqi Join us for an evening of IndieWeb personal site demos and discussions! • This week: Join us for tea! Any questions? Ask in the chatroom! More… https://indieweb.org/next-hwc
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Zegnat . . .
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Zegnat when is the next HWC?
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Loqi Homebrew Website Club Meetup: Special 4/18 Tea edition! is on 2018-04-18 at tollwerkstatt https://indieweb.org/next-hwc
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Zegnat Right, capitalisation.
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Zegnat Is that a better date, grantcodes? (Thanks for the nudge to update the date.)
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