#meta 2018-05-10

2018-05-10 UTC
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Webmention" by Khürt Williams on 2018-05-10 https://islandinthenet.com/webmention/
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Loqi [superfeedr] "p3k - IndieWeb" by 939abraham on 2018-05-09 https://unoabraham.tumblr.com/post/173748397201
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Loqi - IndieWeb" by 939abraham on 2018-05-09 https://unoabraham.tumblr.com/post/173748352456
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Dissecting a WordPress #IndieWeb Post" by Greg McVerry on 2018-05-10 http://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2018/05/10/dissecting-a-wordpress-indieweb-post
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GWG schmarty: Decided on your plans yet?
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schmarty GWG: I didn’t have time to look again today. I think I will book a double queen and you are welcome to join for the days you are in town. Will let you know tomorrow.
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GWG schmarty: No rush. Just want to make plans
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GWG Keep me posted
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schmarty Will do! Apologies for the delay. Busy week for me!
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GWG schmarty: Me too. Tomorrow is graduation day for my class.
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schmarty Nice
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GWG schmarty: I'd appreciate it more if the next one didn't start Monday
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schmarty Fast turnaround
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GWG schmarty: So I'm told.
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gRegorLove I'm debating between flights or train for IWS
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GWG gRegorLove: I'm doing both.
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GWG gRegorLove: Which train?
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gRegorLove Surfliner and Starlight
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GWG I think I booked the Cascades.
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gRegorLove It's 33 hours and a bit more expensive than flying. I think I'll fly.
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GWG I'm only going from Seattle.
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gRegorLove I do want to take a train, but think I'd rather it be the main event, like a trek across the country.
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GWG gRegorLove: Longest I did was the Lake Shore Limited, New York to Chicago, or the Autotrain from Sanford to Lorton
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Loqi [superfeedr] "I have started working on a GTK ..." by Zach Oglesby on 2018-05-10 https://zach.oglesby.co/2018/05/10/i-have-started-working-on-a-gtk
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gRegorLove mblaney: accepted https://gregorlove.com/2018/05/payment-of-5-accepted/
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Loqi [gRegor Morrill] Payment of $5 accepted.
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jacky say wha
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jmac I've been debating showing up in person versus making my first IWS a remote one, since I'm on the wrong coast. (And also since I'll only be a week back from a London vacation.)
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GWG jmac: Up to you.
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Bridgy - IndieWeb" by 939abraham on 2018-05-10 https://unoabraham.tumblr.com/post/173753017771
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gRegorLove We usually have really good video support, so remote can be a good option.
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Zegnat jmac, I am probably switching my life to Portland time to attend remotely. I've done that before. IWS gets several remotees dropping in
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Reply to Greg McVerry" by Kimberly Hirsh on 2018-05-10 http://kimberlyhirsh.com/reply-to-greg-mcverry-control/
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jgmac1106 thx [kimberlyhirsh]
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jmac Zegnat: Reading your detailed attendance notes from 2017 on the wiki helped inform me that remote is a viable option, in fact
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Loqi [superfeedr] "@protohedgehog Keeping HTML template simple. I am going to add a #microformats2 and other #indieweb support so one day we can all hook into an" by Greg McVerry on 2018-05-10 http://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2018/05/10/protohedgehog-keeping-html-template-simple-i-am-going-to-add
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GWG Not quite as fun though
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Zegnat Those notes take way too long to write. I’ve wanted to write them of other events too but often the time just wasn’t there :( I’ll have to see about this year’s IWS. Maybe I should specifically schedule time to write full notes.
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Zegnat GWG, remote attendance is great fun according to my bank account ;)
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GWG I have the hardest time picking places to go on vacation
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GWG So I picked Seattle and a hop up to Portland. I have never been to Seattle.
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jgmac1106 noterlive for remote attendance
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GWG I try to find a roommate, so I half the room cost...
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jgmac1106 [gwg] I do like the liveblogging plug-in I use. Has me thinking could it be turned into a post-kind? but that s for different channel and time
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jgmac1106 [gwg] if you don’t have one let me know. My room is covered by my university so I can offer free housing to one person. If anyone is truly struggiling to get to conference I can help
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Zegnat jgmac1106, I took live notes on IRC for everyone to read live. The time sink is turning those notes into pages like these: https://indieweb.org/2017/Intros
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jmac I'm having some conversations with the people who know me best WRT "Would flying to Portland from Boston right after returning from London make me happy and excited for Interweb Adventure, or would it make me curl into a ball under the bed" and I plan to make my final decision before the weekend
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Zegnat And that one is pretty much just a straight IRC log to page. Let me find a nicer example
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jgmac1106 [jmac] do you have a lot of recovery time, thats a bunch of time zones
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jmac I have a week
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jgmac1106 [zegnat] I remember [kevinmakrs] noterlive just outputting an html file when I was done
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jmac I love travel but hate traveling, if you get me
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jgmac1106 a week is eternity.
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jgmac1106 I get you. I just did a drive from east coast to Vegas straight through 40 hours. I loved it
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jmac zounds
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jgmac1106 three days and then 40 hours back, off to drop kids to school
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Zegnat It doesn’t matter that noterlive outputs HTML, you can’t live-scribe all of this: https://indieweb.org/2017/Demos
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jgmac1106 one of my liveblogs: http://jgregorymcverry.com/live-blog-from-lrngsummits/
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jmac Times like this I wish the US had a halfway recent rail system. (And I just know I'm going to return from my first UK visit feeling 10 times stronger about this.)
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GWG I am probably rooming with schmarty
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GWG We shared in Austin
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jeremycherfas Not if you have to pay full rail fare jmac. Boy has it become expensive. And complicated.
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GWG I hate travelling too. May be more ironic for me considering who I work for
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GWG Speaking of which, I have my last class. Better hop to it. They finish today and the new one starts Monday
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[jgmac1106] I don't fly between Boston and DC. Train better
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[jgmac1106] Anything more than that it's plane or car
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[jgmac1106] I love a good Cannonball Run@
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[kevinmarks] I can live scribe demos: http://www.kevinmarks.com/indiewebcampdusseldorfdemos2016.html
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Loqi IndieWebCamp Düsseldorf Demos 2016-05-08
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[kevinmarks] hm, your live blog is backwards
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[kevinmarks] the tweets noterlive sends end up like that, but the HTML it gives you is chronological
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[jgmac1106] Yeah I like noterlive more
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[jgmac1106] My one issue with noterlive is when I want to add a reflection or just background info not attached to speaker
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[jgmac1106] Have some noterlive examples on my blog somewhere. Could just make me the speaker in that case
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[kevinmarks] yeah, I recognise that. I sometimes do it attributed to me, but then it looks like I said it aloud
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[kevinmarks] my convention is [] around my comments
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Zegnat My problem is that when I am taking live notes (which I do to IRC) I don’t have the time to find links. So I still have to sit down and do all that to create something like https://indieweb.org/2017/Demos . The cleanup of notes into a single conhesive thing is the time sink
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[jgmac1106] That is on the presenter to share materials ahead of time
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[kevinmarks] eg http://www.kevinmarks.com/futureblockchain2018-05-03.html#invented%20chess
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Loqi Future Blockchain Summit Dubai 2018-05-03
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[jgmac1106] But noterlive to html is my fav way to live blog, well try bracket approach for meta comments not attached to person
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jgmac1106 here is a noterlive example: http://jgregorymcverry.com/live-blog-from-lra15-imagining-beyond-the-domesticated-new-creative-remixings-of-literacies-community-and-place/
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Zegnat I forget, did noterlive ever implement Micropub?
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Zegnat Ah, not according to the issue tracker
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Zegnat Maybe I should look into that. Could be a nice pre-IWS project
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[kevinmarks] No, I didn't yet. I'd need to have a micropub endpoint on my own site to encourage me to do it
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aaronpk that seems like a good place to start
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[kevinmarks] well, I have the known one, I suppose
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schmarty GWG: will an economy room with 2 double beds at University Place work for you? they claim there are both a refrigerator and a microwave in there. any other amenities you need?
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GWG schmarty, perfect.
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GWG Ratem
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GWG Rate?
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Loqi [superfeedr] "@robrogan I think people mentioned the #indieweb Slack channel (really an IRC bridge) not as an exemplar but as an invitation if you want to" by Greg McVerry on 2018-05-10 http://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2018/05/10/robrogan-i-think-people-mentioned-the-indieweb-slack-channel-really
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Loqi [superfeedr] "@hannahkane Are you going to the #IndieWeb Summit in Portland?" by Greg McVerry on 2018-05-10 http://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2018/05/10/hannahkane-are-you-going-to-the-indieweb-summit-in-portland
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reliable.servesarcasm.com edited /User:Reliable.servesarcasm.com (+690) "about my site, arts & ego" (view diff)
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[schmarty] oops. looks like the matrix IRC bridge is struggling. or my matrix server.
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[schmarty] GWG: total price is 634 for 6 nights (before taxes, I assume). the weekend vs weekday rates are different, but they don't seem to have that breakdown on the site right now.
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[schmarty] GWG: so you can expect to pay around ~$53 per day we split the room, plus any applicable taxes and fees.
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gRegorLove schmarty, GWG: Maybe late on this, but got room for a third?
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aaronpk i wonder if it would be better to change indiewebify.me into links out to existing tools rather than try to have it do everything itself
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[manton] [aaronpk] I hand-rolled my summit RSVP and maybe got the MF2 markup wrong... It's showing the .jpg URL in addition to my name. (Not spotting the HTML issue on first glance, though.)
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aaronpk ah it's using the img src because there's no explicit p-name
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aaronpk try wrapping your name in <span class="p-name"></span>
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[manton] Got it, trying... I can re-ping /webmention.php and it'll update?
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aaronpk i think that's actually fixed in a newer version of the mf2 parser
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aaronpk yeah it'll update
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aaronpk yea looks like the latest parser sees the page fine https://pin13.net/mf2/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmanton.org%2Frsvp-indiewebsummit-2018
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aaronpk i should have updated that for the RSVP site
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[manton] Adding p-name fixed it. Thanks!
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Loqi I agree
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aaronpk yay
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Loqi 😊
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sknebel is confused what rule in the current parsers causes them to not include the url
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aaronpk no it was including the URL as part of the implied name
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sknebel I saw, but I'm trying to remember what change fixed that
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aaronpk the implied name rule
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aaronpk stopping implied name parsing when there are other mf2 tags present
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sknebel but there wasn't a p- or e-
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gRegorLove p-rsvp
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sknebel on the h-card
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aaronpk okay yeah i am confused
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aaronpk -> #microformats
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gRegorLove Glad you're coming, manton! Look forward to meeting you.
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[manton] Thanks, likewise! Glad I'll be able to make it.
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[jgmac1106] [gregorlove] I will have a room only M-W but it's fully paid for. Also willing to use the same amount of money I would pay for a room toward an AirBnB if we can cover housing for more people who can couch and floor space for free if others chip in
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[schmarty] i'd be interested in joining in on an airbnb, but i am terrible at shopping for them. [gregorlove], i'd love to add you as a third. i don't think the room would fit a roll-in bed, so you'd have to share or we'd need an air mattress.
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[schmarty] gwg: are you cool w/ the rate i listed? if so i will book. i am open to joining in more ambitious endeavors like a full airbnb house, but i would like to have something locked in soon as a fallback, at least.
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[chrisaldrich] I'm happy to jump in if we need more folks to fill a house.
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Loqi [chrisaldrich]: tantek left you a message 23 hours, 29 minutes ago: way to go with IndieWebSummit outreach! Would be great if you could reach out to help the diversity of participation too! Thanks much!
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[chrisaldrich] Or pair up to make even numbers and take over a floor...
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GWG I am cool, schmarty
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GWG I will keep my reservation for a bit just in case
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GWG But make yours
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[schmarty] cool. will do! i'll report back.
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mblaney I'm currently looking at airbnb options and would be happy to join in on a full house.
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