#meta 2018-07-13

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Loqi [superfeedr] "Re-tuning up my indieweb – Pretty Good Hat" by Douglas Beal on 2018-07-13 https://dougbeal.com/2018/07/12/re-tuning-up-my-indieweb-pretty-good-hat/
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Loqi [superfeedr] "gh-pages hosted static site generator using travis" by Douglas Beal on 2018-07-13 https://dougbeal.com/2018/07/12/gh-pages-hosted-static-site-generator-using-travis/
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Loqi [superfeedr] "gh-pages hosted static site generator using travis" by Douglas Beal on 2018-07-13 https://dougbeal.com/2018/07/12/gh-pages-hosted-static-site-generator-using-travis-2/
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Kind support in Quick Edit" by Douglas Beal on 2018-07-13 https://dougbeal.com/2018/07/12/kind-support-in-quick-edit/
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Loqi [superfeedr] "👍" by Douglas Beal on 2018-07-13 https://dougbeal.com/2018/07/12/1763/
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Loqi [superfeedr] "@HiveLearningNYC @nysciEDU We are looking for a venue to sponsor and cohost an #IndieWebCamp Sept 14-16..." by Greg McVerry on 2018-07-13 http://jgregorymcverry.com/4331-2/
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Loqi [superfeedr] "New status by wakest" on 2018-07-13 https://mastodon.social/@wakest/100368165525474912
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tantek.com edited /events/2016-09-09-xoxo-indieweb-meetup (+97) "add event p-name" (view diff)
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tantek.com created /events/2018-09-06-xoxofest (+1117) "stub" (view diff)
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tantek__ those of you coming to XOXO this year, add yourselves! https://indieweb.org/events/2018-09-06-xoxofest#IndieWeb_Participants
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tantek.com edited /Events (-5) "put August events in August, HWC 09-05 in PDX not SF" (view diff)
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tantek__ just now noticing heading level problems and dupe NYC sections on /Planning
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tantek.com edited /Planning (+107) "fix heading levels, merge old NYC, add date options for NYC with peronal prefs for each" (view diff)
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[jgmac1106] yeah I didn't know if you group planning by year it looked that way under 2018
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[jgmac1106] so I went a heading level lower
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tantek__ [jgmac1106]: you got it backwards - it was too high a heading level
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tantek__ "high" in the TOC sense
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[jgmac1106] My bad I thought year was h2 and city h3
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tantek__ no there's a level above that for Planned / Planning / See Also
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aaronparecki.com uploaded /Special:Log/upload "uploaded "[[File:2018-07-instagram-app-outage.png]]" https://indieweb.org/File:2018-07-instagram-app-outage.png"
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aaronparecki.com uploaded /Special:Log/upload "uploaded "[[File:2018-07-instagram-app-outage2.png]]" https://indieweb.org/File:2018-07-instagram-app-outage2.png"
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tantek__ regardless we have a unified https://indieweb.org/Planning#NYC now
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tantek__ If you're interested in IWC NYC this year, at a minimum add yourself to the Interested! list at the top of https://indieweb.org/Planning#NYC and preferably also indicate which date(s) you can make (and/or prefer)
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aaronparecki.com uploaded /Special:Log/upload "uploaded "[[File:2018-07-instagram-website-outage.jpg]]" https://indieweb.org/File:2018-07-instagram-website-outage.jpg"
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[jgmac1106] okay will fix up later
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[jgmac1106] gRegorLove notice earlier and I missed it
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tantek__ [jgmac1106]: it should be fixed now, take a look
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tantek__ https://indieweb.org/Planning#NYC
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tantek__ !rt https://twitter.com/nhoizey/status/1017828818441134087
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Loqi Thanks! We need one more person to confirm the retweet!
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gregorlove.com edited /events/2018-09-06-xoxofest (+85) "/* IndieWeb Participants */ +me" (view diff)
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aaronpk !rt https://twitter.com/nhoizey/status/1017828818441134087
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Loqi Thanks aaronpk and tantek__! https://twitter.com/indiewebcamp/status/1017849293225357312
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gregorlove.com edited /Planning (-63) "/* Online */ remove June (past) and July (quickly passing, only -1 votes so far), add my votes" (view diff)
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gRegorLove !tell dougbeal, chrisaldrich, gwg, zegnat: Since you've expressed interest in https://indieweb.org/Planning#Online, can you add your votes for potential dates?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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gRegorLove GWG: Would you like to co-organize? Not trying to volunteer you for stuff, only asking since you suggested another online IWC. :)
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dougbeal.com edited /Planning (+65) "/* Online */" (view diff)
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gRegorLove Also if anyone has contact with Khurt and Kim on the interested list, let them know (couldn't find chat names)
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dougbeal gRegorLove: stil holding out hope for xoxo ticket...
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Loqi dougbeal: gRegorLove left you a message 4 minutes ago: Since you've expressed interest in https://indieweb.org/Planning#Online, can you add your votes for potential dates?
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[eddie] gRegorLove Thanks for updating the IWC Online dates. I was gonna do that the other day but didn’t get around to it
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Episode 336: Bringing Webrings Back" by Daniel Jalkut and Manton Reece on 2018-07-13 https://coreint.org/2018/07/episode-336-bringing-webrings-back/
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aaronpk 😂
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Zegnat Ah, the dates are just months for now? I think I might be able to do august ...
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Loqi Zegnat: tantek__ left you a message 1 week ago: any photos from this week's vHWC? https://indieweb.org/events/2018-07-04-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi Zegnat: gRegorLove left you a message 24 minutes ago: Since you've expressed interest in https://indieweb.org/Planning#Online, can you add your votes for potential dates?
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gRegorLove Feel free to change to actual dates. Probably a good idea since we're starting to list dates we're not available. Might as well +1 dates we actually are available :)
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eddiehinkle.com edited /Planning (+164) "/* Online */ Add real dates" (view diff)
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[eddie] I added the real dates, but left everyone’s current votes at the month level, so feel free to update your votes to real dates gRegorLove dougbeal and Zegnat
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Zegnat I’ll do a deep-dive into the calendar tomorrow to figure some stuff out. Loving the idea of an online-only event :D
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eddiehinkle.com edited /Planning (+187) "/* Online */ convert my votes to real dates" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /Planning (+84) "/* Online */ convert my votes" (view diff)
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tantek__ hey who here is doing this event? https://indieweb.org/events/2018-07-08-indieweb-hacking-tbd
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tantek__ it's at the top of the newsletter and there's very little information there
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tantek__ looks like rivercat added who I don't see here or in other channels
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tantek__ invite rivercat #indieweb-meta
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tantek__ someone who has channel ops needs to do: /invite rivercat #indieweb-meta
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tantek__ and perhaps for the other channels too
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tantek.com edited /Events (+22) "in quotes to try to communicate that TBD is a name not literal" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Events (-5) "Portland not SF for 7/25" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Events (+5) "getting ahead of myself, that's not XOXO week. Undo revision 49899 by [[Special:Contributions/Tantek.com|Tantek.com]] ([[User talk:Tantek.com|talk]])" (view diff)
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aaronpk whoa we're up to 104 subscribers to the newsletter
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dougbeal.com edited /Homebrew_Website_Club (+109) "/* Seattle */" (view diff)
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gRegorLove dougbeal++
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Loqi dougbeal has 1 karma in this channel (8 overall)
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[dougbeal] Is that the correct way to declare intent?
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gRegorLove dougbeal: is funwhilelost still involved?
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gRegorLove Definitely. Setting up the event page and adding to /events will get it in the newsletter, too. I think there's about 40 minutes before newsletter goes out.
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[dougbeal] Is there a template or something for the event page?
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gRegorLove Unfortunately not. Usually copy a recent one, like https://indieweb.org/events/2018-07-11-homebrew-website-club
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dougbeal no pressure ;)
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gRegorLove I can help. I'm pretty familiar with them :)
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gRegorLove tantek__, were you working on the 7-25 and onward HWC pages earlier?
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dougbeal.com created /events/2018-07-25-homebrew-website-club (+9270) "Created page with "== Details == <div class="p-summary"> Join us for an evening of IndieWeb personal site demos and discussions!<br/> <!-- • This week: '''[[502]] Bad Gateway'''— What does i..."" (view diff)
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dougbeal gRegorLove: should I leave the scaffolding of other locations in place?
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dougbeal gRegorLove: also, what is the bad gateway comment?
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gRegorLove Yeah, usually just comment out any that you're not sure about / put "TBD"
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gRegorLove 502 is probably copypasta from a May 2nd HWC, heh
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gregorlove.com edited /Events (+451) "/* July */ add 07-25 HWC with default locations Nürnberg, Baltimore, SF. HWC organizers, please update accordingly." (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /Events (+36) "/* July */ Seattle!" (view diff)
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dougbeal.com edited /events/2018-07-25-homebrew-website-club (+1) "/* When */" (view diff)
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gRegorLove Ok, /events is updated so I think 07-25 should be in the final newsletter, incl Seattle
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dougbeal.com edited /events/2018-07-25-homebrew-website-club (+8) "/* Nürnberg */" (view diff)
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dougbeal oops, should I be marking these as small changs?
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gregorlove.com edited /Events (+0) "/* July */ oops, Seattle on wrong event. Fixed" (view diff)
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gRegorLove Nah, that's fine.
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gRegorLove I'll update the "What" section
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gregorlove.com edited /events/2018-07-25-homebrew-website-club () "(-574) /* What */ fix URL, reset list of topics" (view diff)
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dougbeal.com edited /events/2018-07-25-homebrew-website-club (+52) "/* Where */" (view diff)
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dougbeal Oh no, stray addyourself
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gRegorLove looks like some nested HTML comments or something. "-->" below that
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tantek__ oh no - plese don't make up a new HWC event page like that
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tantek__ please copy paste completely from a past page otherwise you're going to likely miss lots of details, images, markup, templates etc.
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tantek__ pretty sure the HWC instructions already say to do that
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dougbeal I did
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dougbeal or is there a wiki copy function I should have used?
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tantek__ no there is a ton missing from https://indieweb.org/events/2018-07-25-homebrew-website-club - did it get deleted then?
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tantek__ dougbeal: looks like you only did a partial copy
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gRegorLove It's in the first edit. I was directing him to comment out stuff he wasn't sure about w/ other events
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tantek__ ugh fixing that is going to be tough. better to start from scratch
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gRegorLove Copied from 7/11
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tantek__ no gRegorLove first copy is missing tons
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tantek__ https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?title=events/2018-07-25-homebrew-website-club&oldid=49905
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gRegorLove Intent was to get Seattle listed in the newsletter today
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tantek__ agree with intent
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tantek__ partial copy/paste = you'll break more cities and make it worse
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tantek__ worse than if there was no page there
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dougbeal Hurm
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dougbeal oh, maybe I wasn't in the top level edit?
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aaronpk ohh yeah if you clicked edit on a section you'd only see part of the markup
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dougbeal gRegorLove: how much have you changed?
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gRegorLove Only "Notes" and "Photos" sections appear missing from the first edit? Otherwise it's 7/11 event, unless I'm missing something.
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gRegorLove dougbeal: I just reset the list of topics under "What"
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tantek.com edited /events/2018-07-25-homebrew-website-club (+1334) "reset to 2018-07-11 complete copy/paste, s/-11/-25, rm blog posts & photos" (view diff)
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dougbeal and sytling stuff
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tantek__ gRegorLove, dougbeal see this diff for how much was missing from the initial copy/paste: https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?title=events%2F2018-07-25-homebrew-website-club&type=revision&diff=49915&oldid=49913
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tantek__ a lot from the beginning and end
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dougbeal Did you fix it?
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tantek__ yes per edit above
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gRegorLove Looks good. Now it needs Seattle.
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tantek__ you really need to do a Select All, Copy, Paste when you clone an event
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tantek__ right, step 1, don't lose data compared to what /Events has
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tantek__ then step 2, add new data
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gRegorLove /events doesn't list virtual HWCs or Baltimore for 7/25 yet; not sure which is correct.
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gRegorLove I did add Seattle to /events for 7/25 though
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tantek.com edited /events/2018-07-25-homebrew-website-club (+15) "comment out virtual EU and Americas because they haven't happened for a while - if folks are willing to step and host and be sure to take a screenshot of video sharing, then go for it and re-add them and add yourself as host" (view diff)
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dougbeal.com edited /events/2018-07-25-homebrew-website-club (+31) "/* Where */" (view diff)
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gRegorLove schmarty, Baltimore on for 7/25?
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tantek.com edited /events/2018-07-25-homebrew-website-club (-203) "remove subcomment, rm rsvps until actual indie events / rsvps are posted" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /events/2018-07-25-homebrew-website-club (-98) "rm one topic, keep others that are still relevant, e.g. call-out to upcoming indiewebcamps" (view diff)
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tantek__ gRegorLove: virtual HWCs haven't established a dependable regularity yet so we should keep them commented out by default
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gRegorLove Sounds good
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gRegorLove dougbeal: venue TBD?
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tantek__ Baltimore switching to Wednsedays is very new, and since it was reliable on Tuesdays, figuring that's worth keeping by default
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tantek__ !tell schmarty if you can be sure of HWC Baltimore on Wednesdays, can you add it to future HWC events as an additional location on the mini-listings on /Events ?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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dougbeal gRegorLove: I have a tentative location (room reserved in a library), unless something better comes along
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dougbeal ugh, need to generate location data
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tantek__ if all you wanted to do was add the city, you should start with adding it to the mini-listing on /Events
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gRegorLove Cool. You can put "Venue: TBD" and then list the times, including whether there's a quiet writing hour beforehand.
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dougbeal.com edited /events/2018-07-25-homebrew-website-club (+90) "/* Seattle Area */" (view diff)
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dougbeal.com edited /events/2018-07-25-homebrew-website-club (+123) "/* Seattle Area */" (view diff)
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dougbeal.com edited /events/2018-07-25-homebrew-website-club (+392) "/* Seattle Area */" (view diff)
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dougbeal Ok, is that the minium?
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dougbeal is Nürnberg, Baltimore, and San Fran supposed to be commented out?
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tantek__ no, why do you ask?
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tantek__ do a preview of the page to see if they are *actually* commented out
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tantek__ right now they are not
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dougbeal No, I mean did someone determine they were happening?
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dougbeal Ok, commenting them out now
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tantek__ dougbeal no stop
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tantek__ please re-read HWC planning instructions before proceeding further
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tantek__ there are regular HWCs as organized and present in event pages by default
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tantek__ there was a big long discussion about that and that got codified in the instructions
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tantek__ looks like Seattle didn't make it into the newsletter - it needs explicit p-location markup like the other venues
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schmarty Bmore is on for 7/25
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Loqi schmarty: tantek__ left you a message 23 minutes ago: if you can be sure of HWC Baltimore on Wednesdays, can you add it to future HWC events as an additional location on the mini-listings on /Events ?
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schmarty And weds for the foreseeable
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schmarty I am afk for most of the evening. In Philly for an improv festival
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tantek__ schmarty ok I'll treat "forseeable" as rest of the year
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kaja.sknebel.net edited /User:Kaja.sknebel.net/upcoming-hwcs (+414) "update from /Events" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Events (+17) "move first half July events to past" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Events (+346) "add Baltimore as regular HWC for rest of 2018" (view diff)
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tantek__ Is anyone else around in SF to help co-organize the one day mini IWC SF on the 31st?
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tantek__ https://indieweb.org/events/2018-07-31-dweb-indieweb-hack-day
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schmarty tantek++ thanks!
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Loqi tantek has 12 karma in this channel (455 overall)
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tantek__ emoji << emojli
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Loqi ok, I added "emojli" to the "See Also" section of /emoji https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=49930&oldid=48186
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tantek__ Perhaps we should add to HWC photo-taking tips: make sure that everyone is visible in an "automatic" square cropping of your photo, e.g. compare https://twitter.com/indiewebcamp/status/1017895207440809984 photos
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@indiewebcamp This week in the #indieweb https://indieweb.org/this-week/2018-07-13.html https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DiBKS1aVQAE0-w3.jpg (twitter.com/_/status/1017895207440809984)
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tantek.com edited /events/2018-07-31-dweb-indieweb-hack-day (+3) "Hackers" (view diff)
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dougbeal The logo section doesn't have the latest logo iteration
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aaronpk say what
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dougbeal https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?title=Homebrew_Website_Club&&section=58
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aaronpk oh, we've never had an official HWC logo
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dougbeal ah
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[kevinmarks] Just one I bodged together
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aaronpk malcolm's is pretty nice, based on the new IWC logo
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dougbeal How vital is a project to a HWC?
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dougbeal Projector
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aaronpk not very. we've had HWCs that are just discussions
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sknebel and/or HWCs so small just turning a laptop around works just fine
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sknebel for quickly showing something off
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dougbeal.com edited /User:Dougbeal.com (+1) (view diff)
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schmarty We almost never project at HWC Baltimore
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schmarty I put up the HWC page on the projector so ppl know they are in the right spot
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tantek__ +1
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tantek__ people have printed out a HWC sign for placement on tables in shared spaces
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tantek__ AMP << 2018-06-03 {{adactio}} [https://adactio.com/journal/14103 AMPstinction] <blockquote>performance on the web is so important that it deserves a long-term solution, co-created by all of us: not some commandents delivered to us from on-high by one organisation, enforced by preferential treatment by that organisation’s monopoly in search.</blockquote>
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Loqi ok, I added "2018-06-03 {{adactio}} [https://adactio.com/journal/14103 AMPstinction] <blockquote>performance on the web is so important that it deserves a long-term solution, co-created by all of us: not some commandents delivered to us from on-high by one organisation, enforced by preferential treatment by that organisation’s monopoly in search.</blockquote>" to the "See Also" section of /Accelerated_Mobile_Pages https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=49940&oldid=44115
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Loqi [Jeremy Keith] Components and concerns