#meta 2018-07-17

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tantek___ at the IWS a bunch of us talked about iterating on /principles (as we have previously here in chat as well) to make them more understandable/applicable to more users, beyond devs, beyond gen 1
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tantek___ I think there is a similar complementary opportunity to do both continue making the home page more user-centric (multigenerational), AND provide a dev-centric landing page as well
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tantek___ separate from the home page, but with perhaps a summary diagram/sentence that links to it
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tantek___ from the home page
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tantek___ thoughts?
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tantek___ we could re-organize / re-design the building blocks page for that purpose, or even try brainstorming a brand new page from scratch (might be easier?)
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aaronpk The building blocks page might be a good place to start, would need to review it
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aaronpk also not quite this but related, the new spec.indieweb.org page!
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tantek___ I really like the current simplicity of the spec.indieweb.org page
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aaronpk Yeah, and the url implies exactly what it is, a list of specs
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dougbeal What is microformat prefix
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "microformat prefix" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "microformat prefix is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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dougbeal What is the convention with microformats.org links? Just redirect to the wiki there/
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "convention with microformats.org links" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "convention with microformats.org links is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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tantek wat
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tantek microformat prefix is http://microformats.org/wiki/microformats2-prefixes
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Loqi ok
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Loqi microformats 2 prefix conventions
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Loqi [superfeedr] "dougbeal" by Douglas Beal on 2018-07-17 https://dougbeal.com/2018/07/16/1889/
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tantek__ so many podcasts to listen to!
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GWG tantek__: Any recommendations?
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tantek__ GWG I need to make it easier to just listen to all indieweb podcasts as a casual browser
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tantek__ there we go
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tantek__ see top of /podcasts and /podcasts_about
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tantek__ a-ha this is how IPFS, Protocol Labs, IPLD, Multiformats is all funded: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filecoin
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tantek__ sorry wrong channel - I'm doing some research on various projects going on at dweb summit
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tantek.com edited /events/2018-09-06-xoxofest (+15) "dietrich noted he's going!" (view diff)
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Loqi [superfeedr] "#digiuri If you want students to think about how truth is shaped online or focus on culture of inquiry..." by Greg McVerry on 2018-07-17 http://jgregorymcverry.com/4537-2/
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dougbeal What is a bookmark
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Loqi A bookmark (or linkblog) is a post that is primarily comprised of a URL, often title text from that URL, sometimes optional text describing, tagging, or quoting from its contents https://indieweb.org/bookmark
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Loqi [superfeedr] "@matpacker There's some documentation at https://indieweb.org/Workflow. I also suspect that some of the WordPress/iOS crowd hanging out in micro.blog may have some experience with this.Searching" by Chris Aldrich on 2018-07-17 http://stream.boffosocko.com/2018/matpacker-theres-some-documentation-at-workflow-i-also-suspect-that
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Thought for Tuesday, June 26, 2018 at 8:15 AM" by Jared White on 2018-06-26 https://jaredwhite.com/20180626/1
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Loqi [superfeedr] "And the AND only works if own your content and space. Most folks get on boarded to #indieweb and #DoOO..." by Greg McVerry on 2018-07-17 http://jgregorymcverry.com/4546-2/
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Loqi [superfeedr] "@eduquinn I will also be speaking at @WordPressRI soon about getting started with #IndieWeb tools on..." by Greg McVerry on 2018-07-17 http://jgregorymcverry.com/4552-2/
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Loqi [superfeedr] "I am running my Digital Teaching and Learning Too class in the open starting 7/30. Gonna be a crash course..." by Greg McVerry on 2018-07-17 http://jgregorymcverry.com/4550-2/
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Loqi [superfeedr] "We have something with the clout of Teachers Paying Teachers. It is called the Web. If we all spent time..." by Greg McVerry on 2018-07-17 http://jgregorymcverry.com/4565-2/
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Okay now I know why I couldn’t live Tweet the #hrderby #IndieWeb style using SNAP from @nextscripts...." by Greg McVerry on 2018-07-17 http://jgregorymcverry.com/4570-2/
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Loqi [superfeedr] "New Urbanism and the IndieWeb Share a Common Thread" by Brad on 2018-07-17 https://ramblinggit.com/2018/07/new-urbanism-and-the-indieweb-share-a-common-thread/
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martymcgui.re edited /events/2018-07-25-homebrew-website-club (+32) "/* Baltimore */ event links for RSVP" (view diff)
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Loqi [superfeedr] "The #IndieWeb tools get more user friendly every day. Feel like more and more people embracing the ability..." by Greg McVerry on 2018-07-17 http://jgregorymcverry.com/4597-2/
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Also one thing to note Independent Publisher doesn’t have a native h-card. If you use the #IndieWeb plugin..." by Greg McVerry on 2018-07-17 http://jgregorymcverry.com/4613-2/
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Okay booting the redo of the SOE pages another two days. I am just too old to do web design on a 15 inch..." by Greg McVerry on 2018-07-17 http://jgregorymcverry.com/4623-2/
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tantek__ kinda meta, kinda dev. I stubbed a Wikipedia article on IndieAuth last night: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IndieAuth please review, and feel free to add more / better citations, e.g. if you know of mentions of IndieAuth in the press
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Loqi [superfeedr] "dougbeal" by Douglas Beal on 2018-07-17 https://dougbeal.com/2018/07/17/1904/
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Loqi [superfeedr] "These are called webmentions they are the glue of the #IndieWeb https://indieweb.org/Webmention Also..." by Greg McVerry on 2018-07-17 http://jgregorymcverry.com/4630-2/
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tantek.com edited /2018/SF (+676) "mozsf photo, where, when, schedule details in progress" (view diff)
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tantek__ hey folks IWC SF one day hack day is on
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tantek__ please go add yourselves!
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tantek__ https://indieweb.org/2018/SF#Interested
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tantek__ I'm about to invite the whole DWeb Summit crowd
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tantek__ I'll give you a 30 minute head start
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tantek__ we have 30 spots currently
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tantek__ I think [snarfed] and jalcine are the only ones here that I know are likely in SF then
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tantek__ anybody here interested in remote participation? https://indieweb.org/2018/SF#Remote_Participation
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tantek__ GWG, a while ago you said you would visit SF just for IWC - I realize we're only doing it one day for this time, and it's on a Tuesday, but presumably you would at least participate remotely?
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dougbeal I would remotly participate
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tantek__ awesome! add yourself to that section!
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tantek__ \o/
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tantek.com edited /Events (+14) "/* October */ View Source 2018 site is up!" (view diff)
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aaronparecki.com edited /2018/SF (+14) "/* Remote Participation */" (view diff)
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jgregorymcverry.com edited /2018/SF (+2) "remote, unless I find an amazing tix price" (view diff)
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Loqi [superfeedr] "I see that you have a WordPress site. We have all the plugins you need. If you ever want help figuring..." by Greg McVerry on 2018-07-17 http://jgregorymcverry.com/4632-2/
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Loqi [superfeedr] "OMG an #IndieWeb toggle on .com sites would be amazing! How I onboard everyone to the web. Though I do..." by Greg McVerry on 2018-07-17 http://jgregorymcverry.com/4634-2/
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Actually in DC for awhile to watch ⚾️ had tix to the #hrderby but gave my son tix to tonight’s game...." by Greg McVerry on 2018-07-17 http://jgregorymcverry.com/4639-2/
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Loqi [superfeedr] "We are currently doing UX study (user stories of people who have not used #IndieWeb @Wordpress, people..." by Greg McVerry on 2018-07-17 http://jgregorymcverry.com/4636-2/
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jgmac1106 [gwg] [tantek] just got an email from Pace University they want to schedule a call to go over our space needs for IWC-NYC, went from no venue to all the venues
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www.cs.odu.edu ~salam edited /2018/SF (+47) "/* Interested */" (view diff)
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www.cs.odu.edu ~salam edited /2018/SF (+1) (view diff)
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tantek__ jgmac1106++ awesome!!!
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Loqi jgmac1106 has 9 karma in this channel (32 overall)
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Don’t think I will have the travel budget for @CLASummit with #LRA18 being in Palm Springs but if not..." by Greg McVerry on 2018-07-17 http://jgregorymcverry.com/4644-2/
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aaronpk !rt http://twtr.io/1g8qxfME8Rd
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Loqi Thanks! We need one more person to confirm the retweet!
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[chrisaldrich] ! rt http://twtr.io/1g8qxfME8Rd
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Loqi [chrisaldrich]: gRegorLove left you a message 1 week, 3 days ago: Fixed an early-closing <span> in that event. Appears to parse correctly now.
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Loqi [chrisaldrich]: tantek__ left you a message 1 week, 1 day ago: is vHWC Americas a regular thing now?
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Loqi [chrisaldrich]: gRegorLove left you a message 4 days, 2 hours ago: Since you've expressed interest in https://indieweb.org/Planning#Online, can you add your votes for potential dates?
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@gozala If you’re in SF on 7/31 day before #dwebsummit2018 & don’t already have plans, you’re officially invited by Mozilla to come participate in complementary one day #dweb Hackers Day / IndieWebCamp at Mozilla SF location https://IndieWeb.org/2018/SF (twitter.com/_/status/1019333647571214338)
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[chrisaldrich] Dyac...
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[chrisaldrich] !rt http://twtr.io/1g8qxfME8Rd
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Loqi Thanks [chrisaldrich] and aaronpk! https://twitter.com/indiewebcamp/status/1019336242343768064
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tantek__ gozala++
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Loqi gozala has 1 karma
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manton.org edited /Homebrew_Website_Club (-54) "Changing HWC Austin location." (view diff)
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tantek__ cool!
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GWG tantek, teaching a class alas.
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tantek__ teaching++ GWG
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Loqi teaching has 1 karma
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tantek__ Hmm I suppose I should be posting an indie event for IWC SF / dweb hackers day
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tantek__ only a little surprised none of you called me out for that sooner 😂
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tantek__ goes to copy/paste from his previous IWC SF indie event, realizes that was in 2015 before he implemented indie events 😭
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Kill Process was an extremely satisfying read and …" by Amanda on 2018-07-17 https://www.arush.io/?p=93875
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tantek__ aaronpk: do we have a one-day IWC "template" for YYYY . indieweb.org / city that we could clone for 2018 SF?
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tantek__ for a tito registration option?
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aaronpk hm I don't think we've done one day
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aaronpk wouldn't be hard to adapt the summit page tho
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aaronpk I don't have time to do that but here's the source to the summit page, should be relatively easy to figure out. https://github.com/indieweb/2018.indieweb.org/blob/master/public/index.php
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tantek__ aaronpk I'll try to do a pull request then for a 2018 . indieweb.org/SF
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aaronpk k!
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Getting my Hand Slapped by @Twitter and my mea culpa" by Greg McVerry on 2018-07-17 http://jgregorymcverry.com/getting-my-hand-slapped-by-twitter-and-my-mea-culpa/
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tantek__ wow
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tantek__ I think kevinmarks has had that happen to him too
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tantek__ it's like Twitter decided live-tweeting was no longer a supported use-case
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tantek__ what is live tweeting
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "live tweeting" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "live tweeting is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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tantek__ what is tweetstorming
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "tweetstorming" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "tweetstorming is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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tantek__ what is a tweetstorm
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Loqi tweetstorm is a series of tweets, each replying to the previous, often each numbered so the sequence is clear, as a method of expressing a longer series of related thoughts as a single thread on Twitter https://indieweb.org/tweetstorm
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tantek__ tweetstorming is /tweetstorm
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Loqi ok
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tantek__ live tweeting is a particular kind of [[tweetstorm]] where the posts are both meaningfully sequential and about an actual event that is happening real time, either attended in person, or viewed remotely, possibly even a viewing of a recording on an event after the fact, but still in real time.
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Loqi ok
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tantek__ live tweeting << 2018-07-17 http://jgregorymcverry.com/getting-my-hand-slapped-by-twitter-and-my-mea-culpa/
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Loqi ok, I added "2018-07-17 http://jgregorymcverry.com/getting-my-hand-slapped-by-twitter-and-my-mea-culpa/" to a brand new "See Also" section of /live_tweeting https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=50093&oldid=50092
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tantek__ !tell kevinmarks could you share your experience for Twitter throttling / blocking your account for live tweeting on the /live_tweeting page?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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tantek__ tweetstorm << live tweeting
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Loqi ok, I added "[[live tweeting]]" to the "See Also" section of /tweetstorm https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=50094&oldid=45110
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tantek.com edited /2018/SF (+1264) "add some more event boilerplate from 2018 Berlin" (view diff)
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Event" on 2018-07-17 http://tantek.com/2018/212/e1/homebrew-website-club-sf
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tantek.com edited /2018/SF (+130) "/* RSVP */ indie event!" (view diff)
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tantek__ indie event posted!
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Event" on 2018-07-17 http://tantek.com/2018/212/e1/indiewebcamp-sf-dweb-hackers-day
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tantek__ cc snarfed: http://tantek.com/2018/212/e1/indiewebcamp-sf-dweb-hackers-day
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tantek__ (hoping to get at least one indie RSVP :) )