#meta 2018-08-23

2018-08-23 UTC
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iambismark.net edited /User:Iambismark.net (+332) "Adding itches" (view diff)
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tantek.com uploaded /Special:Log/upload "uploaded "[[File:2018-234-hwc-sf.jpg]]" https://indieweb.org/File:2018-234-hwc-sf.jpg"
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tantek.com edited /events/2018-08-22-homebrew-website-club (+130) "/* Photos */ SF" (view diff)
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[eddie] aaronpk / tantek if it would be helpful to you all, I can help moderate Slack spam. Since I always use Slack to connect, I am always aware of it 🙂
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[tantek] +1
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[aaronpk] lol crap
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[aaronpk] I need to whitelist the slack users better
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aaronpk [eddie]: you are a slack admin now
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aaronpk Hopefully tomorrow or Friday I'll be able to adjust the spam hooks to make the spam not get to slack in the first place
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GWG Okay, initial PR for client information sent for review.
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[eddie] Cool, sounds good. In the mean time, consider me the Slack janitor 😉
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[eddie] And as if on cue, some spam got dropped in the channel for me to clean up lol
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kaja.sknebel.net edited /User:Kaja.sknebel.net/upcoming-hwcs () "(-520) update from /Events" (view diff)
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sknebel Zeg​nat: does this line highlight you?
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Zegnat No
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Zegnat What did you do to it? It also renders a little off-baseline
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sknebel U+200B in the middle
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sknebel (and oops, this should have been -chat)
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vanderven.se martijn edited /User:Vanderven.se_martijn/IndieAuth_Client_Information (+0) "Updated [[indiebookclub]] data. It is also the first (and only) page to use rel-apple-touch-icon-precomposed." (view diff)
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marcthiele.com edited /2018/Berlin/Guest_Book (+371) "/* Guest Book */" (view diff)
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aaronpk Zegnat: there are two things we need added to calagator in order to use it https://indieweb.org/Calagator#Using_Calagator_for_IndieWeb_Events
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aaronpk Restrict editing to logged-in users, Timezones per event
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Zegnat Sadly, I don’t really know Ruby :(
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sknebel wait, anyone can edit on Calgator?
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sknebel how the heck does that not constantly get destroyed by spambots?
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aaronpk there's a captcha that prevents automated spam
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aaronpk every now and then someone actually does add spam events
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aaronpk but anyone can also delete events, so it gets cleaned up
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aaronpk also there's this http://calagator.org/changes
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sknebel that's obviously very ugly, but we could just block the editing routes in the webserver?
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aaronpk i thought about that, but i don't know the extent of how many edit routes there are in rails apps. i feel like there's a lot of built-in things that I would miss because they're not exposed in the UI
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sknebel hm
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Zegnat So really, especially with that changes page, the whole thing should be seen as a wiki-for-events?
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sknebel ok, looking at issues also not likely there's much development happening if we don't do it
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aaronpk yeah it's definitely a wiki for events
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sknebel maybe we should investigate the various Form/data storage plugins for mediawiki, but making something nice out of them is probably quite a bit of effort too
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aaronpk every time i think about this it makes me want to build a little app from scratch for it
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Zegnat The problem with “little app” is that I am not sure there is such a thing in event space
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aaronpk haha
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aaronpk yeah every time i've sketched this out it quickly gets out of hand
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petermolnar kind of a radical idea, but a webmention-to-caldav bridge might do it
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aaronpk lol and set up some caldav app?
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petermolnar see radicale
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aaronpk those aren't really set up to do public event listings tho
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petermolnar this is the questionable part
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petermolnar if it would fit or not
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aaronpk upcoming.org is actually pretty close to what we need
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petermolnar oh, upcoming.org is back?
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aaronpk has been for a while
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petermolnar yeah... I'm becoming terrible at catching these kind of announcements
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petermolnar hopefully it won't has an incredible journey... again... :D
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Zegnat Upcoming is selfhostable as well, right?
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aaronpk yeah
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aaronpk also it requires login to add anything, but is hardcoded to twitter login right now
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Zegnat I expect that should be switchable to indielogin.com, right? Hmm, this isn’t Ruby, slightly more possible to hack on (for me that is)
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aaronpk yeah it's all node, which is harder for me lol
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aaronpk so actually with the way i have the server set up, it doesn't need to actually integrate with any login thing itself, it just needs to check for the "User" http header to tell if you're logged in
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aaronpk that's how etherpad knows your domain name already when you go to etherpad.indieweb.org
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Zegnat Hmm. Sad to see the issues/prs on upcoming seem to have frozen in the 2017 state
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kam.black created /User:Kam.black (+57) "Created page with "<span class="h-card">[https://kam.black Kam Black]</span>"" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Planning (+650) "start putting down possible dates for Austin" (view diff)
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tantek__ Who wants to go to an IWC Austin again this December?
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tantek__ as of IWS, [manton] said he was interested in organizing one again, so I've drafted up a stub here: https://indieweb.org/Planning#Austin
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tantek__ Please add yourselves to all the places that apply to you (interested, want to co-organize, opinions/availability on dates)
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tantek__ going to in particular call out aaronpk gRegorLove GWG and maybe willnorris (he likes Texas IIRC)
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gRegorLove feels called out
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tantek__ :)
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gregorlove.com edited /Planning (+13) "/* Austin */ +me, maybe" (view diff)
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[manton] [tantek] We talked about this a little at Homebrew Website Club a few weeks ago. I was thinking early next year instead, to give us some more time for planning and getting the word out.
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[manton] Do you think January of February could work? Haven't checked for other conflicts yet.
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[tantek] Manton, Jan or Feb could work too though those start to collide with other standards meetings etc.
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[tantek] Let’s add some dates for those months and see what people put down
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[tantek] I do think we have plenty of time to plan and get the word out for December
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[tantek] I know for example some of the folks I met at the dweb summit who are based in Austin were very much looking forward to IWC Austin
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[tantek] Basically all we have to do is get a date and a venue and we can crank up the outreach
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[tantek] Seems to me this is something we can and should clearly debunk up front:
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[tantek] https://twitter.com/bryanrieger/status/1032755873649647616
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@bryanrieger @goldstein Great idea in theory, but unfortunately requiring folks to learn HTML/CSS/JS/ETC is somewhat antithetical to most folks goals of wanting to share information and communicate with others. (twitter.com/_/status/1032755873649647616)
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[tantek] For example, neither Wordpress nor micro.blog setups require learning any of that
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aaronpk test
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aaronpk test
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aaronpk testing
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aaronpk testing stuff
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aaronpk test not spam
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aaronpk okay progress
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aaronpk should be less spam making it to slack and the logs now
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aaronpk I need to refactor this stuff a bit still to tie it all together