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[eddie] Lol GWG: https://indieweb.org/Planning#Online
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GWG Eddie, my point exactly
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[eddie] Ohh okay haha
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gRegorLove Sounds interesting, [eddie]. Depending how much difference between timezones, could stretch out a one-day event, so maybe demos on the second day at a fixed time?
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gRegorLove It would sort of be like a series of mini-vHWCs that way, I think
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gRegorLove Work on creating during time when there's no sessions / after sessions
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[eddie] Yeah, that’s what I’m thinking, have a fixed start/intro time and demos/end time that works in most all time zones and then have sessions dispersed around and you work on projects when you’re not in a session
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gRegorLove Quite a lot list interested in Online!
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gRegorLove *long list
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[eddie] Yeah!
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[eddie] And I’ve heard people mention interest without them putting their name on the list too
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[jgmac1106] [eddie] we did a vHWc-North America and there was a lot of interest online....thinking maybe have a few how-to sessions, or what we often do Week Zero.....meaning if you want some basics in place before the event.
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[eddie] Yeah, we could a couple of things like try to have the vHWC Americas be more consistent before and after it, as well as try to have some tutorials or things like that posted online shortly before
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[eddie] Essentially providing some people the ability to start investigating stuff before if they want
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[eddie] Makes sense to me
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gRegorLove !tell manton I archived the initial Austin planning section on https://indieweb.org/2019/Austin/Planning
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ That was my Known site https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com but I can still do the same from my main WordPress site if I wanted using a few #IndieWeb plugins. (https://jgregorymcverry.com/8129-2/) (twitter.com/_/status/1061425137130582016)
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@jgmac1106 This might be of interest. Great WordPress overview https://boffosocko.com/research/presentations/wordpress-and-indieweb/#1 (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/VJOax) (twitter.com/_/status/1061432336494088192)
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GWG I learned my lesson from last time.
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GWG I'm staying at the hotel next to the one I stayed at if I go to Austin
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GWG The prices are good. I just need a roommate to offset costs.
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gRegorLove I'm down, GWG
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GWG gRegorLove: When are you planning to arrive/leave?
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gRegorLove Not planned yet
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gRegorLove Probably Fri-Sun nights tho
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GWG I learned the correct hotel after last time.
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GWG https://www.ihg.com/holidayinnexpress/hotels/us/en/austin/ausns/hoteldetail
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GWG Last time I was promised a mini-fridge and didn't get one.
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@bmann ↩️ none! Combining IndieWeb with some crypto / decentralized could get us there pretty quick. I tried to get Peepeth to use ActivityPub, which would immediately make it interoperable with Mastodon. (twitter.com/_/status/1061488712570220545)
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@cowglow ↩️ @jkphl @indiewebcamp @nueww @tollwerk Dance #codemonkey, dance! (twitter.com/_/status/1061535074519314432)
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[kevinmarks] Hah at "immediately"
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petermolnar I have mixed feelings about an online iwc
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petermolnar one of the main point of an iwc for me is the in person contact
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petermolnar but I see the benefits as well
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[jgmac1106] !tell Eddie we should move this to 2019/Online/Planning
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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[jgmac1106] Agree @petermolnar you lose benefits of f2f but few can afford to galvant across the globe, or get away from kids, with great frequency
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jeremycherfas It isn't just the face to face, it is also being able quietly to learn directly from someone.
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@jgmac1106 Putting truth on the blockchain doesn't make it more truthy. https://indieweb.org/bitcoin #el30 (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/2hFh2v) (twitter.com/_/status/1061589862476853248)
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[jgmac1106] I think we can try to recreate in the online... Harder for VHWC - Europe as its just Mumble nobscreenshare
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[jgmac1106] Especially if you have a remote friendly audience. Trying to recreate or create that culture with people who have never been beyond a silo super hars
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[jgmac1106] Hard
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@jgmac1106 @jackjamieson came to conclusion last #ds106 and #IndieWeb had same goal: getting people on their own sites. #IndieWeb using their generations model focused on the most technicalky skilled learnerstop down, #ds106 focused on gen4 and wanted to go… https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2018/11/11/jackjamieson-came-to-conclusion-last-ds106 (twitter.com/_/status/1061596738459447296)
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@jgmac1106 Wrapped up today's #IndieWeb goal, I think I added a correct h-entry for my article, added an XML file for RSS feeds, and used some basic CSS Grid to style the article template. https://jgmac1106homepage.glitch.me/articletemplate.html and https://jgmac1106homepage.glitch.me/feed.xml (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/29gjGJ) (twitter.com/_/status/1061626757051285506)
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[eddie] petermolnar I can understand that, and I definitely don’t think IWC Online is a good replacement for an in-person one. I also don’t think the IWC in person experience translates well to sitting in a single video conference all day where it’s hard to speak to people without talking over them
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Loqi [eddie]: [jgmac1106] left you a message 3 hours, 39 minutes ago: we should move this to 2019/Online/Planning
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[eddie] However, I do think if you break the in-person ideals of IWC, you can break it down into the components and re-think how those components can work online and hopefully that can help support and foster a similar feel when used correctly in an online medium
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[jgmac1106] [eddie] doesn't mean online can't have a physical presence...could try to encourage local nodes of HWC to gather in person
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[eddie] Definitely, that’s a great idea!
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[eddie] And good idea, jgmac1106 on the planning page. I’ll put that up today so we can start gathering thoughts there
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[eddie] I also thinking being able to have separate breakout “rooms” throughout the majority of IWC Online is the way to go, with only the welcome/intros and demos taking place in a single sharing service/room.
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[jgmac1106] did you pick dates yet/
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[eddie] Nope still waiting for input from interested people
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[eddie] March is all we know
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@jackjamieson ↩️ Just read your discussion section — I was having trouble thinking that through from the IndieWeb side alone and the #ds106 side put it into perspective. I think you’re right, two different approaches to the same basic goal. Highlights an opportunity for… https://jackjamieson.net/?p=2386 (twitter.com/_/status/1061699181994217474)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ check out some of the #IndieWeb tools. We make the process pretty easy and fun regardless of skill level and goal. (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/Y3Vg6) (twitter.com/_/status/1061705351651905536)
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@calum_ryan A few words about IndieWebCamp Berlin I attended last weekend https://calumryan.com/blog/indiewebcamp-berlin-2018/ (twitter.com/_/status/1061720416371261440)
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@geoffcain Really interesting conversation between @Downes and @benwerd covering ideas around the #indieweb #distributedinternet and #privacy issues, take a listen: https://tinyurl.com/y7gwxb8h #el30 #edtech #highered (twitter.com/_/status/1061722849583329280)
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@megarush1024 ↩️ @Cambridgeport90 Start here: https://indieweb.org/WordPress this'll give you lots of options. (twitter.com/_/status/1061729227689615361)
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@megarush1024 ↩️ @Cambridgeport90 There's also the #indieweb hashtag on Twitter and I believe Mastodon as well. (twitter.com/_/status/1061729649858883586)
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@megarush1024 ↩️ People are really friendly and helpful in the chat. I started this whole indieweb thing a couple of years ago knowing absolutely nothing about it. (twitter.com/_/status/1061730213887909889)
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@Cambridgeport90 ↩️ that's what we're going to do with ours. Think I'll install both getpterotype and then Indieweb. Not sure whether or not I need anything more? The site's already got about seventeen or so plugins. (twitter.com/_/status/1061733880498212865)
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@davidmead I _think_ I’ve just successfully set up an SSL Certificate for my domain. Now lets see if any of my #indieweb stuff breaks. *[ SSL]: Secure Sockets Layer (http://djm.click/blog/b/5gH) (twitter.com/_/status/1061737385216610304)
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@Mixed_Realities a bit late this week, but here is my summary of the video-interview @downes had with @benwerd about #indieweb, #blockchain and #decentralizedweb. http://ow.ly/JZ6m30mzUK4 (twitter.com/_/status/1061744297006022657)
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@Mixed_Realities a bit late this week, but here is my summary of the video-interview @Downes had with @benwerd about #indieweb, #blockchain and #decentralizedweb, all this in the context of our course #el30 http://ow.ly/JPxO30mzUMT (twitter.com/_/status/1061744763165163520)
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[tantek] what is a testimonial
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "testimonial" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "testimonial is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[tantek] testimonial is a statement of support for the IndieWeb, perhaps building blocks, tools, services, and/or especially the IndieWeb community.
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Loqi ok
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[tantek] testimonial << https://twitter.com/megarush1024/status/1061730213887909889
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Loqi ok, I added "https://twitter.com/megarush1024/status/1061730213887909889" to a brand new "See Also" section of /testimonial https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=53768&oldid=53767
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[tantek] calumryan++ for https://calumryan.com/blog/indiewebcamp-berlin-2018/ great post!
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Loqi [Calum Ryan] IndieWebCamp Berlin 2018 Last weekend I was at IndieWebCamp Berlin not long after attending IndieWebCamp Nuremberg. Each event, whilst similar in format, takes on a slightly different dynamic, in my opinion, through the people that attend, the loca...
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