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@ChrisAldrich ↩️ This sounds a lot like the Microsub spec which abstracts and separates the parsing and displaying of content. There are already several separate server and reader implementations if you're interested in tinkering. https://indieweb.org/Microsub https://boffosocko.com/2018/12/31/55739705/ (twitter.com/_/status/1079891569291849728)
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@ChrisAldrich Though @austinkleon doesn't specifically come right out and say it, this article is very pro #IndieWeb and particularly so for artists and people who are promoting themselves on the web. https://boffosocko.com/2018/12/31/you-dont-have-to-live-in-public-indieweb/ (twitter.com/_/status/1079895495097479168)
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tantek.com edited /2018-12-indieweb-challenge (+214) "squeezed in one more: mf2 parser spec updated again, issue 2 done!" (view diff)
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@wolfwitte Now testing: Indigenous. Eine Micropub/Microsub-App für Android https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.indieweb.indigenous&hl=en_US (twitter.com/_/status/1080040412574826497)
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metbril Any webmaster for indieweb.org online?
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metbril I get a 502 bad gateway
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metbril Any webmaster for indieweb.org online?
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metbril I get a 502 bad gateway
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kisik21 maybe we should automatically give voice to people in chat-names rather than making them wait?
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petermolnar kisik21: it's because of the last spam wave a couple of months ago
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kisik21 I know, but chat-names people seem to be already more trusted, why not relax that restriction for them?
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Zegnat I am not sure all these people have registered the nickname on freenode, or if Loqi knows the difference between authenticated users and unauthenticated. This being IRC, you can actually join a channel with a username from chatnames (given that person isn’t online) and spam before the name changes
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Zegnat Not sure how big of an issue that would be in reality, but still
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@autiomaa @indiewebcamp Getting a "504 Gateway Time-out" error from your website. Might make sense to reboot something. (twitter.com/_/status/1080091434756247558)
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@autiomaa ↩️ @indiewebcamp Another "502 Bad Gateway" error after that. But confusingly some requests pass to the server, as https://indieweb.org/this-week/2018-12-14.html URL worked properly. Is the gateway caching broken? (twitter.com/_/status/1080092004325969920)
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Zegnat Huh. Looks like a MediaWiki problem if other pages load. And aaronpk.com seems to load too.
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sknebel probably php backend crashed or something
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sknebel afaik Loqi already considers chat-names. you'll note though that chat-names is on the wiki :D
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metbril Loqi has kicked me off of #indieweb ???
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sknebel yes, spam false positive
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metbril Indieweb.org is down. 502 bad gateway.
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sknebel also, repeating that the wiki is down doesn't fix it faster
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metbril No, but I did not get a response that someone was already aware of this. :)
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metbril The wiki is a SPOF, because I can't find who and how to contact about this.
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metbril The chat is only appropriate if someone is online at that moment
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@martijnvdven The #IndieWeb wiki on https://indieweb.org/ is down for the count. It should be kicked back up when the PST time zone wakes up into 2019. Sorry for the inconvenience. (twitter.com/_/status/1080105592423923714)
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Zegnat !rt https://twitter.com/martijnvdven/status/1080105592423923714
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Loqi Sorry, you have to be listed on https://indieweb.org/irc-people before you can help retweet
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Zegnat Darn
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Zegnat Here I thought I could smartly share the message, but of course that too is impossible
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metbril thanks, zegnat
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metbril BTW, what does "the count" mean? Is this an English expression? I'm Dutch.
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Zegnat It is a sports metaphore. Down for the count is laying in the floor in such a way that the umpire starts the 10 second count down
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Zegnat Rebooting the wiki is a clear https://github.com/indieweb/wiki/blob/master/data/s/single%20point%20of%20aaron.txt
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Loqi 325802160/bot/internet
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metbril Ah! https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=down%20for%20the%20count
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metbril That repo with a copy of the wiki is awesome. I didn;t know it existed.
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metbril Will my kick from #indieweb be automatically removed after a period of time?
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sknebel I'm not sure it is enforced with a ban at all, I think you can just rejoin
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Zegnat Yeah, no ban, just rejoin
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Zegnat Most of the time it is fine, spam control just doesn’t like people posting a link in their first message / first x seconds
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metbril OK. I will take this into account next time.
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Zegnat The spam filter may be on the way out though, it has calmed down *a lot*
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sknebel filed a loqi issue for it to not throw away chat-names cache if there's a problem
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Zegnat That sounds like a fix, also for the twitter issue
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Zegnat still thinks some of these credentials need spreading around if we don’t want to move to managed hosting for stuff
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sknebel yeah, at least for the core bits
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@MstrKapowski IndieWeb POSSE (twitter.com/_/status/1080112809906765826)
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sebsel We could also at least customize the nginx 503 page to be a bit more user friendly :)
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Loqi sebsel: sl007 left you a message on 2018-11-14 at 4:41pm UTC: ^ how about you ?
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Loqi sebsel: sl007 left you a message on 2018-11-14 at 5:01pm UTC: about you and Vlissingen
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sebsel seems like I need to hunt down some logs
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aaronpk it's back, will have to look into what happened
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@kevinmarks ↩️ @WebOrganics we could move over to https://chat.indieweb.org/microformats/ - it has most of the twitter thread already (twitter.com/_/status/1080118741692805121)
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Zegnat As predicted, during PST wake-up hours ;)
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Zegnat Thanks aaronpk! Hope you had a pleasant NYE!
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sebsel aaronpk++
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Loqi aaronpk has 52 karma in this channel over the last year (269 in all channels)
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metbril Thanks aarronpk, I guess you had planned other things this early in the new year
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metbril aaronpk++
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cathieleblanc.com edited /code-of-conduct (+51) (view diff)
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cathieleblanc.com edited /User:Cathieleblanc.com (+22) "/* Itches */" (view diff)
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cathieleblanc.com edited /User:Cathieleblanc.com (+13) "/* Working On */" (view diff)
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aaronpk i'm setting up a new server for the wiki and a few other core services so that I can give more people admin access to the server
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Zegnat shouts “not it” and ducks
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aaronpk lol
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aaronpk great
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[tantek] hesitatingly raises his hand
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aaronpk wonders if this server could eventually also host microformats.org or if that's mixing two admin communities inappropriately
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[tantek] they're different admin communities currently, so probably preferable to keep the separate
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[tantek] also clustering vulnerabilities / targets is probably not a great idea
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aaronparecki.com edited /Overland (+173) (view diff)
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fireburn.ru edited /User:Fireburn.ru (+52) "/* Itches */ moved push support in solved" (view diff)
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[tantek] we are/were so close to getting every day! https://indieweb.org/2018-12-indieweb-challenge
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[tantek] many with multiple items!
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[tantek] on the 29th we did decide that the first HWC of 2019 would be the 9th of January
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[tantek] keeps looking through logs
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[tantek] and that we'd stick with current-style HWC event pages for January
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[tantek] discussed travel budget committee
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[tantek] wait when did GWG publish the updated syndication plugin?
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sknebel aaronpk: happy to help with the server
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[tantek] well looks like the planning of 2019-01-09 for the first HWC of 2019 is the best we have for 2018-12-29 IndieWeb Challenge
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[tantek] with SF, Baltimore, and Virtual EU leaders confirming (or -ish)
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sknebel london confirmed too
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[tantek] right!
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[tantek] ok making a page after the fact
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[tantek] will link to chat log discussion as evidence of 2019-01-09 as first HWC of 2019
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[tantek] taking this opportunity to simplify the event page, dropping non-regulars, dropping region headings
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[tantek] !tell [schmarty],[jonathanprozzi] do you expect HWC Baltimore to continue meeting on Tuesdays, typically the Tuesday immediately before the usual HWC Wednesday meetups?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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[tantek] (going to assume as much unless told otherwise)
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[schmarty] I will let [jonathanprozzi] say for sure but I predict Tuesdays will still be best
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GWG I published on the 29th
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GWG https://github.com/dshanske/syndication-links
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Loqi [dshanske] syndication-links: Add and Display Syndication Links
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www.svenknebel.de edited /Lasso (+37) "clarify: supports IndieAuth/RelMeAuth through IndieLogin" (view diff)
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tantek.com created /events/2019-01-09-homebrew-website-club (+9349) "stub from HWC 2018-12-12" (view diff)
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aaronpk PSA: Loqi's anti-spam measures are disabled now
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tantek.com created /events/2019-01-23-homebrew-website-club (+9357) "stub from HWC 2019-01-09" (view diff)
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[tantek] !tell manton is HWC Austin meeting up on 2019-01-09 by any chance? https://indieweb.org/events/2019-01-09-homebrew-website-club#Where
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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[tantek] alright that's January's HWC event pages created at least!
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[schmarty] tantek++
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[tantek] well I should say, January's *Wednesday* HWC pages created 🙂
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[tantek] redlinks to Baltimore Tuesdays
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www.svenknebel.de edited /events/2019-01-09-homebrew-website-club (+1) "/* Virtual European Time */ fix time" (view diff)
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aaronpk ok progress on the new server, but i've gotta run for now!
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www.svenknebel.de edited /events/2019-01-23-homebrew-website-club (+1) "/* Virtual European Time */ fix time" (view diff)
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kaja.sknebel.net edited /User:Kaja.sknebel.net/upcoming-hwcs (+785) "update from /Events" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /2018-12-indieweb-challenge (+404) "29th Syndication Links update! note new features, also first HWC of 2019 planned!" (view diff)
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[tantek] Congrats everyone we did it!!! 🎉🎉 IndieWeb Challenge 2018-12 shipped something (at least one thing) for the community to use, sign-up for etc. every day of December 2018!
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[tantek] jgmac1106++ for 6 contributions!
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Loqi jgmac1106 has 44 karma in this channel over the last year (101 in all channels)
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[tantek] gwg++ for 5 (days of) contributions!
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Loqi gwg has 15 karma in this channel over the last year (161 in all channels)
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[tantek] eddie++ for 4 (days of) contributions!
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[tantek] thanks also to contributions from vika, swentel, grant, aaron, vincent, jacky, amit, robert, as well as all HWC organizers!
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[tantek] (now with that documented, let's look at today's IndieWeb Commitments)
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[tantek] If you made a commitment in https://indieweb.org/2019-01-01-commitments, and haven't quite finished it, you still have today to do so! (y.t. included 😂)
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[tantek] maybe I should note that in dev
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[tantek] 2019-01-01-commitments << What next? Use what you finished and start a [[100DaysOfIndieWeb|100 Days Project]] today!
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Loqi ok, I added "What next? Use what you finished and start a [[100DaysOfIndieWeb|100 Days Project]] today!" to the "See Also" section of /2019-01-01-commitments https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=55187&oldid=54610
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calumryan.com edited /events/2019-01-09-homebrew-website-club (+0) "/* London */ Fix time and indie event link" (view diff)
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[tantek] calumryan I wonder how long BST has been in the HWC pages *after* the UK switched back to GMT
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[tantek] e.g. that error was copied from https://indieweb.org/events/2018-12-12-homebrew-website-club (where it's also presumably wrong)
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tantek.com edited /Year_in_Review (+182) "/* Silo Examples */ Strava Year in Sport" (view diff)
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@kevinmarks ↩️ @WebOrganics If you want to chat in person, come to Homebrew Website Club London https://hwclondon.co.uk/meetups/20190109 (twitter.com/_/status/1080197493437202433)
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tantek.com edited /Year_in_Review (+86) "/* Strava */ 2017 no longer available, huh, better save your summary if you want to keep it!" (view diff)
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tantek.com created /top_nine (+23) "r" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /best_nine (+69) "Year in Review" (view diff)
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cowglow.com edited /User:Cowglow.com (+285) "Infobox Update" (view diff)
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cowglow.com uploaded /File:psaa.png "Philip Saa aka cowglow https://indieweb.org/File:psaa.png"
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@OffBeatMammal ↩️ check out something like https://forestry.io/ or (even more control of your own) http://jeklog.com - template with Jekyll and publish static site. Check out https://indieweb.org/ for some good pointers (though a bit daunting!) (twitter.com/_/status/1080230438596014080)
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cowglow.com edited /User:Cowglow.com (+1260) "User page Update" (view diff)
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cowglow.com edited /User:Cowglow.com (+4) "/* Video stuff I do */" (view diff)
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