#meta 2019-01-11

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jacky [tantek]: good idea!
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loqi.me edited /PDF (+220) "[tantek] added "2018-03-05 Vice/Tedium: [https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/pam43n/why-the-pdf-is-secretly-the-worlds-most-important-file-format Why the PDF Is Secretly the World's Most Important File Format]" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /RSS (+201) "RSS demise syndicated to Vice" (view diff)
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[tantek] heh: http://offlinefirst.org/camp/
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tantek.com edited /Events (+206) "/* Upcoming */ couple of upcoming waffle JS with call for speaker links in case anyone is interested" (view diff)
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@Grueproof Reading up on IndieWeb customs and guidelines. What an overcomplicated mess. (twitter.com/_/status/1083538140479008768)
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@davidmead ↩️ Any contribution to the #indieweb @Grueproof, would be greatly appreciated :-) (https://davidjohnmead.com/s/l5XRr) (twitter.com/_/status/1083544551325716480)
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@bridgetstewart ↩️ Of course, I find him to be a delight. However, @Grueproof and I have similar impatience with #indieweb. It’s not easy to adopt (so far) unless you are a programmer as @paulrobertlloyd mentioned in his 2018 in review article: https://paulrobertlloyd.com/2019/01/2018_in_review (twitter.com/_/status/1083548281286860801)
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Loqi Just generated the first draft of this week's newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2019-01-11.html I'll generate a draft again tomorrow, so please add to it before then! https://indieweb.org/this-week#How_to
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@EddieHinkle ↩️ Ohhhh gotcha. That’s understandable, those projects having limited time and resources have focused more on functionality than design and marketing. But I also understand the IndieWeb in general has more developer time than design time as well (https://eddiehinkle.com/2019/01/11/1/reply/) (twitter.com/_/status/1083592389804154881)
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@vincentlistens ↩️ http://Just.Be.Careful if you are doing this in the EU. There may be GDPR implications. https://sebastiangreger.net/2018/05/indieweb-privacy-challenge-webmentions-backfeeds-gdpr/ A user never gave you permission to take their content and copy it to your website. Better to just surface direct webmentions (twitter.com/_/status/1083643137061519360)
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remond.im edited /chat-names (+46) "adding irc nickname for mickael" (view diff)
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www.jeremycherfas.net edited /site-deaths (+477) "/* Upcoming */ ZCast announces imminent shutdown" (view diff)
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@davidmead The Indieweb privacy challenge (Webmentions, silo backfeeds, and the GDPR) // Sebastian Greger: https://sebastiangreger.net/2018/05/indieweb-privacy-challenge-webmentions-backfeeds-gdpr/ (twitter.com/_/status/1083697411577401344)
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@kevinmarks ↩️ @katiedrumm @film_girl @jc_news #indieweb is there for you (twitter.com/_/status/1083706477888581632)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb means posting on your own site and then to twitter, if at all (twitter.com/_/status/1083751161629417472)
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jgregorymcverry.com edited /code-of-conduct-why (+553) "/* Why have a code of conduct */ added importance of improved discussion" (view diff)
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@rMdes_ This year planning to relaunch Homebrew Website Club #Brussels https://hwc.digityser.org/ (temporary website restored from last year backup, bear with some of the broken links) the idea is to gather once a month around self-hosted websites, home grown code, #indieweb (1/2) (twitter.com/_/status/1083767704933216256)
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herestomwiththeweather.com uploaded /Special:Log/upload "uploaded "[[File:austin hwc 01 09.jpg]]" https://indieweb.org/File:austin_hwc_01_09.jpg"
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herestomwiththeweather.com edited /events/2019-01-09-homebrew-website-club (+98) "/* Photos */ Austin" (view diff)
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@kimberlyhirsh All future original tweets will link to my blog. Those worth clicking through to read in full will end with [More on the blog]. (See @indiewebcamp for why.) (twitter.com/_/status/1083778644143681536)
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@rMdes_ IndieWebCamp Berlin 2018 Self-Hosting #cloudron https://youtu.be/9EaQXC6uP2Q #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/1083791606568837120)
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@ReclaimHosting #DOMAINS19 Themes: Data Ownership, Learning Tools, Accessibility, Privacy & Surveillance, IndieWeb, Containers and the Cloud (twitter.com/_/status/1083792803971428352)
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martymcgui.re edited /User:Martymcgui.re (-11) "i moved!" (view diff)
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[tantek] !tell gregorlove WDYT of adding an event_photo field to https://indieweb.org/Template:one-day-event so we can easily add a photo URL (maybe show thumbnail?) to the h-event that it generates to more easily get a photo from an event to show-up in the newsletter (rather than always having to create a separate one-off page after the fact for an indieweb-related event that happened to have a photo)
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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tantek.com edited /Events (+106) "/* Upcoming */ try sneaking a u-photo link into the description of a one-day-event" (view diff)
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[tantek] well that seems to work to get it into the parsed mf2 JSON of /events
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[tantek] now to see what the newsletter does (if it even checks for) a photo on an event in the /events page
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[tantek] cc: [aaronpk]
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aaronpk hmm i dont think it does, since there wasn't any markup like that in the past
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[tantek] I thought maybe the code was "lazy" and used a photo wherever it happened to find the event
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[tantek] just like the newsletter will take the rest of the event (name, when, location) from either location - figured the "get a property for an event" code was all in the same place, and thus didn't care where the h-event came from (whether from /events or from its own wiki page)
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aaronpk you clearly ascribe far too much confidence in my coding ability here
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aaronpk ok let's see if that works
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[tantek] !tell jacky now's the time to create your own event page for WaffleJS from this week and include the photo of you speaking - only have a couple of hours before the newsletter goes out!
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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aaronpk i'm doing it the opposite way. if it doesn't find any photos on the event page, then it uses a photo from the /events page
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aaronpk because i want it to use *all* photos from the detail page, but only one from the /events page if there is one
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invisible.ch edited /User:Invisible.ch (+602) (view diff)
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[tantek] makes sense aaronpk!
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Loqi Just generated this week's newsletter! You still have a few minutes to make changes, and I'll re-generate it 10 minutes before it gets sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2019-01-11.html
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aaronpk woo it worked
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jacky ahh did I miss it?
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Loqi jacky: [tantek] left you a message 1 hour, 51 minutes ago: now's the time to create your own event page for WaffleJS from this week and include the photo of you speaking - only have a couple of hours before the newsletter goes out!
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jacky I was out working >_<
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jacky blergh no worries
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jacky now I _have_ to have my article/post readu
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jacky *ready
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Loqi misses it too
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aaronpk still have an hour!
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aaronpk maybe 50 minutes
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jacky WaffleJS is a community-run meetup group held in San Francisco, California focused on JavaScript but open to all things creative.
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jacky what is WaffleJS
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "WaffleJS" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "WaffleJS is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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jacky :thinking_face:
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[eddie] You have to ask "What is" first
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[eddie] WaffleJS is a community-run meetup group held in San Francisco, California focused on JavaScript but open to all things creative.
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Loqi ok
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loqi.me created /WaffleJS (+156) "prompted by jacky and dfn added by [eddie]" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /events/2019-01-09-homebrew-website-club (+0) "/* Photos */ put Austin before SF - more people!" (view diff)
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@lobsters Static Indieweb pt2: Using Webmentions via @flyingfisch_ https://lobste.rs/s/hvk0ob #web https://mxb.at/blog/using-webmentions-on-static-sites/ (twitter.com/_/status/1083851096722817024)
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jacky oh you did it [eddie] thanks!
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jacky was on a call\
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[tantek] checks the new pages/dfns
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tantek.com edited /Events (-27) "/* February */ update copyleft conf URL to actual conf URL rather than "save the date" announcement from early last year" (view diff)
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[tantek] so I'm having trouble with FOSDEM and "The First Annual International Copyleft Conference" and "global diversity CFP day" being listed on /events with nothing obviously indieweb-related on any of their event home pages - nor any evidence that anyone from the community is participating and/or giving an indieweb-related talk
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[tantek] I suppose I can probabilistically assume that *someone* in the indieweb community (perhaps at least sl007) is participating in FOSDEM but the others I have no idea
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[tantek] I'm inclined to comment them out until we hear from folk saying they are going / speaking on indieweb
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Loqi Generated the final version of the newsletter! This will be sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2019-01-11.html
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tantek.com edited /Events (+147) "comment out events without any clear indieweb-relevance until someone speaks up and documents it" (view diff)
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jacky.wtf uploaded /File:DwhZaluVsAAQGzT.jpg "https://twitter.com/seldo/status/1083214027289899008 https://indieweb.org/File:DwhZaluVsAAQGzT.jpg"
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[tantek] indienews seems to be free of spam this week
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aaronpk *whew*
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jacky.wtf uploaded /File:DwhZalwUUAAIGOq.jpg "https://twitter.com/seldo/status/1083214027289899008 https://indieweb.org/File:DwhZalwUUAAIGOq.jpg"
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tantek.com edited /WaffleJS (+56) "summarize indieweb relevance to dfn" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /WaffleJS (+24) "link to homepage" (view diff)
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[tantek] I like these: http://projecticebreak.com/attendees.html - some ideas there that could help with IndieWebCamps too!
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jacky ooh def the talk-to-me buttons
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jacky thanks for the wiki tips [tantek]
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jacky I need to learn more about that
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tantek.com edited /b2evolution (+121) "include indieweb relevance in dfn, IndieWeb Support section, see also WordPress" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /bittorrent-sync (+209) "move torrent dfn here - not relevant to indieweb on its own" (view diff)
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@PinoBatch ↩️ Last I checked, domain registration cost money, and most free subdomain providers weren't on the Public Suffix List (PSL) or didn't support TXT records or both. Can we expect every head of household to buy a personal domain name, as #IndieWeb recommends? https://indieweb.org/personal-domain (twitter.com/_/status/1083863590984130565)
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tantek.com edited /torrent (-118) "move torrent dfn to existing bittorrent sync page - torrent not relevant to indieweb on its own. Or if you think it is, please define it in terms that are directly relevant to the indieweb." (view diff)
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[tantek] what is Eleventy
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Loqi Eleventy is a JavaScript based static site generator with a decoupled architecture intended to allow the user to select their own preferred template engines https://indieweb.org/Eleventy
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[tantek] what is decoupled architecture
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "decoupled architecture" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "decoupled architecture is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[tantek] (no seriously)
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@manton2 Registration is open for IndieWebCamp Austin. February 23-24. https://2019.indieweb.org/austin (twitter.com/_/status/1083864803679092740)
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@indiewebcamp This week in the #indieweb https://indieweb.org/this-week/2019-01-11.html https://t.co/g5loOkvNHn (twitter.com/_/status/1083864903822102528)
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tantek.com edited /Eleventy (+114) "simplify dfn, note indieweb relevance to being mf2 friendly in practice, Paul Lloyd has h-entry etc." (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Statamic (+149) "no known building blocks or examples" (view diff)
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loqi.me created /statamatic (+21) "prompted by [tantek] and redirect added by [tantek]" (view diff)
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[tantek] done with some amount of clean-up on this week's new pages
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aaronpk tantek++
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