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[tantek] [jgmac1106] [schmarty] any thoughts of a Friday night meetup / social before IWC NYC?
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[schmarty] just vague thoughts for me. Haven't had a lot of mental energy for planning recently :/
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Loqi [schmarty]: jgmac1106 left you a message 4 days, 5 hours ago: I started adding issues to the GitHub repo https://github.com/indieweb/2019.indieweb.org/issues for planning, feel free to do the same
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GWG I am going to have some free mental time after I return from my vacation
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GWG But I'll be out of town
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[tantek] [schmarty] would it help to have another co-organizer to help with at least wiki-creating/gardening for /2019/NYC
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GWG I should be able to do that
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GWG I am garden challenged sometimes
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[schmarty] More are always welcome! I think per lessons learned last year I might benefit from some clear clusters of responsibility
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Loqi +1
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GWG You know I'm happy to try to help
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[tantek] [schmarty] that's a very good point. I will re-read https://indieweb.org/2018/NYC/Reflections
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GWG I think I did well on adding some info
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GWG I hotel research well enough
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GWG I wi
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[tantek] [schmarty] from that doc I see three key things to focus on for IWC NYC 2019:
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[tantek] 1. security / front-desk
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[tantek] 2. Make sure tasks are evenly distributed among co-organizers / aligning strengths of organizers with tasks (maybe a few NYC organizer meetings to help get this going?)
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GWG Which we have two of
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[tantek] 3. remote participation
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GWG Do we know the equipment at both sites?
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[tantek] GWG, I'm not sure we have any of those yet. Which two do you refer to?
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GWG Two sites
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GWG We need to check both
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[tantek] right
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[tantek] GWG, we know that last time the equipment at the (now) day 1 site was inadequate / frustrating for remote participation. Though I do remember it sort of working and I think seeing [Rose] for the first time
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[tantek] It sounds like from [schmarty] is saying, we should start with #2 in that list above, as I think that's what he's saying re: "clear clusters of responsibility"
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[tantek] (correct me if I'm wrong [schmarty] 🙂 )
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GWG I agree with that idea
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[schmarty] tantek++
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[Rose] New York last year?
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GWG Anyone remember what the equipment was though?
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[Rose] Built into the rooms.
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GWG [Rose]: That was when you were a giant head eating lunch
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[Rose] Used BlueJean to remote stream.
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GWG okay
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[Rose] Sorry! 🤣
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GWG That's what I couldn't remember
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[Rose] I know Aaron had some stuff setup too.
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GWG Sorry for what, that's why it was memorable... you were large
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aaronpk I had an iphone to stream the main room because we couldn't get the fancy rig working
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GWG I can bring some laptop/Chromebooks/cheap tablets to stream using zoom
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GWG If anyone is staying nearby might ask for them to hold it in between
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[tantek] GWG, that would be great, is it ok if we put you down for all remote participation setup / testing / instructions?
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GWG Yes. But I need to know the existing setups
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GWG So, need Intel.
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GWG Who is our contact?
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[tantek] [jgmac1106] is the venue contact
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[tantek] I think the point was the existing setups are unreliable / wasted a lot of time to setup and get working so we should use our own setup
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[tantek] and not depend on the existing setup at all
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GWG I will ask him to get info from on site and I'll handle the rest
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[tantek] ok
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jgmac1106[m] Gwg let me get a final room list on Monday
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GWG We need to know the second venue configuration
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GWG Power availability, etc
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jgmac1106[m] Think one way stream in main room, (we must supply) we have the video conference room and all other rooms wired with projector. Sound unknown
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jgmac1106[m] Other room the more chro.mebook and or ipad the better. I have access to unlimited of either
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GWG And Twitch is our streaming Service for everything now?
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GWG I need to familiarize myself with it
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GWG jgnmac1106, you sleeping over?
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jgmac1106[m] Yes the hard part and thanks for volunteering is downloading and then uploading all the videos ro archive.org
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jgmac1106[m] Not hard... Time consuming
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GWG If so, can I leave stuff in your room rather than schlepping it back?
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GWG I can make a list and bring it and or share the load
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GWG schmarty has a Chromebook as well
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[tantek] I think [tmiller] would also be another great co-organizer to have if she's available — has anyone reached out? Tiara, you still getting notifications here?
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GWG if we all bring a little, probably easier
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GWG aaronpk, what is the easiest way to stream to Twitch
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GWG I have a month to figure that out
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GWG One of those little hardware boxes?
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GWG Like the webcaster x2 you returned
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aaronpk GWG: what's the video source?
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GWG Might just be a usb camera with option to upgrade to HDMI
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aaronpk if it's a computer, OBS works well. otherwise for HDMI sources the webcaster works well.
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tantek.com edited /2019/NYC/Planning (+1115) "Add Organizers section, start capturing tasks and areas, link to previously" (view diff)
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[tantek] [schmarty] please review https://indieweb.org/2019/NYC/Planning#Organizers_and_Areas — I tried to capture what we know for sure and link to the specific GitHub issues [jgmac1106] is using for tracking specific tasks. Definitely feel free to brainstorm and add additional tasks / areas of responsibility. Feel free to edit to clarify anything etc.
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[jgmac1106] I thought we had moved to GitHub for planning after Summit. If other co-organizers prefer wiki I am nuetral.
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[tantek] [jgmac1106] GitHub is great for fine grain discussion of specific tasks and issues
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[tantek] GitHub sucks for any kind of overall planning — which, as was pointed out in /2018/NYC/Reflections by both you and [schmarty] was perhaps the key thing that that needed to be done better
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[tantek] also no, there was no "for planning after Summit" big decision like that. I recall we left it up to organizers to use the tools that work for them to be the most efficient and not let things drop
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[tantek] [jgmac1106] does that split between GitHub and wiki make sense to you?
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[tantek] I only started documenting things on the wiki which were *not* in GitHub (and ill-suited for GitHub), did not duplicate anything from GitHub, linked to it instead (as one should 🙂 )
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[tantek] The other thing GitHub is not great at is quick/back forth discussion where chat works better (subsequently could link to a chat thread in GitHub comments to keep it all there by reference at least)
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[tantek] E.g. see the example we just saw above of GWG figuring out some details of remote participation
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tantek.com edited /tweetstorm (+571) "other examples: Marc Andreessen's tweet storms and the sites that archive them as blog posts" (view diff)
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[tantek] Another thing GitHub is not great at, things where you're brainstorming a number of possibilities, and people are voting on them or indicating preferences, and editing them as well. comment threads in general suck for that. E.g. why people use Doodle instead of a GitHub issue.
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tantek.com edited /2019/NYC/Planning (+1426) "In General, github for specific tasks, wiki for areas/brainstorming, start Brainstorming with Friday Night Social venue possibilities, add last year's, and another per mention in a tweet" (view diff)
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GWG I will consider buying a hardware device
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GWG I come to enough IWCs and we shouldn't always need aaronpk
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[tantek] [jgmac1106] [schmarty] [dshanske] tried to capture a combination of current IWC NYC 2019 organizing, and expand to areas of need (areas of responsibility, and brainstorming options) with specific examples for each of those. Please review and edit / improve (or dispute!) accordingly! https://indieweb.org/2019/NYC/Planning#In_General
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[tantek] I like a lot of the description on https://2019.us.wordcamp.org. The "What to expect" section feels like things we'd say about IndieWebCamp as well
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aaronpk I like it
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