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GWG I need to figure out how to stream a main room, but this can host Zoom
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@jonathanprozzi ↩️ Definitely @schmarty for all our great discussions and conversations while co-organizing Homebrew Website Club Baltimore! Learned so much from our discussions Also @flukeout for inviting me to be a Web Literacy Space Wrangler at @mozillafestival 2017! (twitter.com/_/status/1166868099167133701)
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@jackyalcine Perks of a personal website with a friends mode #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/1166888430304784384)
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beesbuzz.biz edited /nvite (+114) "It is no more" (view diff)
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[tantek] ^^^ aaronpk I feel you want that feature for your site too
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aaronpk Friends mode?
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aaronpk I like that name haha
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@Cambridgeport90 ↩️ @cswordpress @cdils Is it good right now for #IndieWeb support? (twitter.com/_/status/1166902172153470976)
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@IndieWebLife Indieweb slowly feeling like a social network - doubleloop #indieweb https://doubleloop.net/2019/06/09/indieweb-slowly-feeling-like-a-social-network/ (twitter.com/_/status/1166904665243623424)
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apiratelifefor.me created /User:Apiratelifefor.me (+248) "Created page with "{{Infobox person |name = Michael Beckwith |url = https://apiratelifefor.me |summary = Michael Beckwith is a Support Engineer and PHP/backend web developer with focus on WordPr..."" (view diff)
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[tantek] nice! now add yourself to /chat-names 🙂
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[tantek] what is friends mode
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "friends mode" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "friends mode is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[tantek] ^^^ for you aaronpk
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aaronpk I don't have anything close to that feature on my site!
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[tantek] sounds like you at least have a brainstorm itch!
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[tantek] with use-cases!
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aaronpk definitely, but I still feel underqualified for that
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apiratelifefor.me edited /chat-names (+56) (view diff)
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[Michael_Beckwit i feel so special now 😄
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@sonniesedge ↩️ Thank you Ankur! Yes, it's a personal desire to own as much content as I can. Slowly getting there! Good luck with your #indieweb projects! (twitter.com/_/status/1166964336155418624)
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@tw2113 @CalEvans Call me crazy, but I have a feeling you'd a person who is all about the #indieweb and what they strive for. If you've never heard of it, check it out at https://indieweb.org/ (twitter.com/_/status/1166965444969947136)
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[fluffy] friends mode meaning private posts?
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aaronpk Yeah but less tech my speak
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aaronpk also private posts is kinda misleading or ambiguous since it's not clear who "private" refers to. Is it private to only the author?
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kaja.sknebel.net edited /User:Kaja.sknebel.net/upcoming-hwcs (-312) "update from /Events" (view diff)
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[fluffy] good point
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[fluffy] I generally refer to them as “friends-only posts” although at least in Publ I let you define arbitrarily many recipient groups, not just “friends”
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[fluffy] and Google+ and LIvejournal were the same way
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[fluffy] Publ’s friends-group model is very much modeled after G+ “circles”
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[fluffy] but: implementation detail
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[fluffy] terminology-wise, how about “restricted post”
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[fluffy] or “restricted content”
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[fluffy] audience-restricted
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[fluffy] I just don’t like the term “friends mode” because in principle I’d want to make entries that are visible to, say, family members who I am not actually friendly with
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[fluffy] or other sorts of restricted-audience things that don’t necessarily imply friendship
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@andrewtj Facebook/Instagram/Twitter is to Indieweb, as Github/Gitlab is to? (twitter.com/_/status/1167016025650429953)
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@cswordpress ↩️ Not really. Which was why I came to the conclusion that we will likely have to embrace blocks to get the Indieweb/theme problem solved. (twitter.com/_/status/1167018873415176192)
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[jgmac1106] "friends" mode.. Do an informal survey if tech use first day of college. This year had many who do Instagram as public and Snap for "friends mode"
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[jgmac1106] Did have a few who said they went back to Snap bc Instagram is owned by Facebook and they don't want to support.... First time I ever heard "political choice"
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@depone Is http://ownyourgram.com not working for me or anybody else? // cc @aaronpk #IndieWeb (twitter.com/_/status/1167051597995794435)
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@PHPMinds Next Thursday, September 5th we'll have @anna_hax talking about "Noobs on Ubs" and her journey getting into Ubuntu and @JamieTanna will be talking to us all about the #IndieWeb and the concept of owning your data. Looking forward to seeing you all there! https://www.meetup.com/PHPMiNDS-in-Nottingham/events/264008439/ (twitter.com/_/status/1167057009893621760)
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GWG [jgmac1106]: I need to know what hardware is in the rooms for NYC
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GWG Is there a TV...power outlets...cables... etc
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jgmac1106 there is a pc and projector in every room
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jgmac1106 the video conference room is all set
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GWG Can I hook in Zoom?
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jgmac1106 already has it
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GWG Okay
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jgmac1106 the hard part about that room was getting the video, I remember I had to record aaronpks session locally
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GWG I am setting up 2 portable Zoom kits that hook into a TV
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jgmac1106 but the othrer rooms will all have a tv with hdmi ports or a projecter with hdmi and vga
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GWG Since the Android TV plus webcam worked
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jgmac1106 yeah did you blog about that? I want to share it with the virtually connecting community
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GWG I will
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GWG I just tested it using chrisaldrich and tantek as test participants
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GWG I hosted the meeting from the device
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GWG aaronpk's problem at Mozilla I believe was that those sets couldn't host so he needed an iPad to do it
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jgmac1106 we should also add to the wiki our post production plans, uploading all the video to archive.org will take time
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Loqi yea
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GWG I need to try doing it
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GWG I should ask someone who has how it works, maybe migrate some of the YouTube videos over as a test
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Loqi yea
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jgmac1106 download->wait->upload->wait, rinse repeat
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jgmac1106 not hard, just a time suck
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jgmac1106 need to make sure to budget a few hours post camp to the task
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jgregorymcverry.com edited /User:Jgregorymcverry.com (+205) "adding to brainstorming section" (view diff)
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@Cambridgeport90 Still trying to figure out the correct format for my open PGP key on #Wordpress. #indieWeb #OpenWeb (https://cambridgeport90.net/507-2/) (twitter.com/_/status/1167083421581094914)
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jgmac1106 here is the final grant narrative for QuestionTheWeb https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OrwDAzNPIn1DbJyUxbvyqVciYZUAgjO7dstQ7FmiGQQ/edit?usp=sharing an html version will come soon for the js/dr crowd just need to get the darn thing submitted first, 250k for indieweb development and a few years of funding for the Summit….if I get it…rewrite from last year
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ @Cambridgeport90 might make for a great keynote topic #justsayin also huge h/t to @pferrele for all their work in ensuring WP #IndieWeb themes can me the highest #a11y standards possible on the CMS (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/YaXSu) (twitter.com/_/status/1167090281994477568)
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aaronparecki.com edited /2019/Amsterdam (+14) "/* Friday September 27 */" (view diff)
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aaronpk that's me!
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aaronpk going to amsterdam!
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[schmarty] woohoo!
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Loqi 😄
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martymcgui.re edited /2019/Amsterdam (+19) "/* Friday September 27 */ +me" (view diff)
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jgregorymcverry.com edited /2019/NYC/Planning (+161) "adding a to-do inbox" (view diff)
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jgregorymcverry.com edited /2019/NYC/Planning (+52) "/* To-Do Inbox */ adding av list" (view diff)
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GWG I wish I could
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GWG I have always wanted to visit Amsterdam
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@cswordpress In reply to @Cambridgeport90 and @jgmac1106 regarding the #indieweb fifth choice: the elephant in the room of other CMSs and accessibility: https://www.customerservant.com/in-reply-to-cambridgeport90-and-jgmac1106-regarding-the-indieweb-fifth-choice-the-elephant-in-the-room-of-other-cmss-and-accessibility/ (twitter.com/_/status/1167132034201980929)
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@Cambridgeport90 ↩️ I would love to embrace blocks; actually, I love them. What made me not use them, is, frankly the lack of IndieWeb support. If we could fix that then ... (twitter.com/_/status/1167134034402656256)
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[schmarty] [aaronpk] anything i can do to nudge along the process to get ti.to tickets showing up on 2019.indieweb.org/nyc ? i am happy to assist!
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aaronpk i'm back at my computer so i can do that right now!
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[schmarty] three organizer indie RSVPs is lookin' saddddd
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aaronpk if you wanna help a long term fix and rewrite my code you're welcome to :)
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[schmarty] ooh thanks!
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[schmarty] haha, maybe!
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aaronpk it wouldn't take much: https://github.com/indieweb/2019.indieweb.org/blob/master/get-tito-registrations.php
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aaronpk right now it gets $event from the command line, so i have to add a cron job for it
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[tantek] aaronpk: long term fix and rewrite my code
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aaronpk would need to switch that to load the events from a config file
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[tantek] everyone: (blinks)
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aaronpk lol
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aaronpk adding support for other tito accounts is gonna take more work tho
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aaronpk oh wait
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aaronpk i forgot it also loads the tito api key from a config file
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aaronpk so it already supports multiple accounts
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[schmarty] how about if this script iterated over all event that also had a `.tito-EVENT.json` and ran the update unless the event end date had passed?
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aaronpk yeah that'd work, check for the presence of the json file to trigger it to run the update?
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[schmarty] would have to remember to remove the json file after each event 😅
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aaronpk and create it too
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aaronpk oh dear, everyone is marked as private. did you add the question "show me on the guest list"?
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aaronpk i see it there... oh
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aaronpk it's supposed to be "Would you like to be shown on the public guest list?" not "seen"
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[tantek] ^^^ can you add that specific text to https://indieweb.org/IndieWebCamp_Organizing#Ticketing ?
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[tantek] is going to keep beating the please document all the ticketing things literally drum :)
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aaronpk also the question is not marked as required as described on that page
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aaronpk so some people didn't answer vs checked "no"
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aaronparecki.com edited /IndieWebCamp_Organizing (+105) "/* Ticketing */ instructions for guest list" (view diff)
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Loqi [github] Pull request opened by aaronpk: https://github.com/indieweb/2019.indieweb.org/pull/87
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aaronpk [schmarty]: ^^
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[schmarty] [jgmac1106] see above re: tito ticketing question about being shown on the public guest list. plz make it a required question and replace "seen" with "shown"
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[schmarty] whoops jgmac1106 disregard the wording and just make it req'd
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aaronpk i think it's too late
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Loqi [github] Pull request merged by martymcguire: https://github.com/indieweb/2019.indieweb.org/pull/87
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Loqi [github] Successfully deployed indieweb/2019.indieweb.org to https://2019.indieweb.org
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aaronpk let's try this again
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aaronpk ok that worked!
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aaronpk only 2 people clicked yes tho
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aaronpk probably because it wasn't a required question
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[schmarty] le sigh
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aaronpk that part *was* documented on the wiki already ;-)
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aaronpk the specific wording was not, but i just added it
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[schmarty] "and 6 private registrations" is still better than before!
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[schmarty] aaronpk++ thanks for the fix and the docs!
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Loqi aaronpk has 54 karma in this channel over the last year (195 in all channels)
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aaronpk yep
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[jgmac1106] fan of private by default
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[jgmac1106] but will make it a required question
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[jgmac1106] what is accessibility?
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Loqi Accessibility is the practice of designing so that people with disabilities can have equal access to information and functionality, applicable to both websites as well as physical environments https://indieweb.org/accessibility
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[jgmac1106] Accessibility << https://www.customerservant.com/in-reply-to-cambridgeport90-and-jgmac1106-regarding-the-indieweb-fifth-choice-the-elephant-in-the-room-of-other-cmss-and-accessibility/
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Loqi ok, I added "https://www.customerservant.com/in-reply-to-cambridgeport90-and-jgmac1106-regarding-the-indieweb-fifth-choice-the-elephant-in-the-room-of-other-cmss-and-accessibility/" to the "See Also" section of /accessibility https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=64712&oldid=64110
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Loqi [Amanda Rush(Placeholder, edit later) WordPress powers over a quarter of the web. With such a large market share comes a shared responsibility to create a web that everyone can use and enjoy, regardless of how they access it.] This reply is part of a conversation on this post which has carried over to Twitter. There’s an elephant in the room we need to talk about regarding the fifth choice of non-WordPress CMS, and it’s accessibility, (or lack thereof) of those content...
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@masteredbytobi Remember you can catch all the #newmusic releases from all across the Indieweb via my New #Independentmusic Friday #playlist. Refreshed top to bottom w/ 21 brand #newreleases every #newmusicfriday https://open.spotify.com/playlist/3veabrnsbiMhOyQpkdGA3g?si=tJ8la3EETYKnvrvwdP8deA #musichouruk #newmusicdiscovery #newmusicalert (twitter.com/_/status/1167162822410850304)
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@fluffy ↩️ This happened to appear in #IndieWeb chat because one of the random fragments matched a project name. Anyway, I love synthwave music so I'm glad this happened. :) (twitter.com/_/status/1167181390506422272)
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tantek.com edited /Events (+5) "off cycle HWC 2019-09-11 for SF at least (due to missing regular meetings before/after), drop today's HWC Brighton - doesn't appear to have happened" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Template:Homebrew_Website_Club (+7) "2019-09-11 off cycle, drop 2019-08-29" (view diff)
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[manton] That's great you're speaking at WordPress US, [tantek]!
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[tantek] Thanks [manton]! Now I just have to update my talk, practice (and book travel etc) :)
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GWG [manton]: You going?
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@aaronpk ↩️ There's definitely a growing worldwide community doing exactly this right now! #indieweb Here are my photos: https://aaronparecki.com/photos Here is how everything fits together https://aaronparecki.com/2018/04/20/46/indieweb-reader-my-new-home-on-the-internet (twitter.com/_/status/1167201350502862848)
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@schnarfed ↩️ @mrejfox this is https://indieweb.org/! (twitter.com/_/status/1167201943963353088)
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@jgmac1106 @mrejfox @RonautDreams @aaronp Whether in Brooklyn or Bay Area we have upcoming events to come hack on your sites and figure this out with other value driven folks: https://indieweb.org/Events in fact @indiewebcamp NYC is Oct 5-6 https://indieweb.org/2019/NYC (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/Qf9Aq) (twitter.com/_/status/1167211985450209284)
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@aaronpk ↩️ Thanks! There's an indiewebcamp coming up in your neck of the woods soon too! You're more than welcome to join! https://2019.indieweb.org/nyc (twitter.com/_/status/1167214374265618432)
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aaronpk ohh crap it's matching substrings too
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aaronpk so "date" is caught on the "DAT" jargon term
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[tantek] Lolol
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aaronpk surprised that hasn't happened sooner
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aaronpk soooo huh, some of these are two words
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[tantek] DAT was added recently
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aaronpk ah
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[tantek] Yes phrases
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aaronpk so i can't just look at each word individually
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[tantek] Correct
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[tantek] For now let’s drop DAT as jargon because that’ll cause far too many false positives
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aaronpk that's definitely the quick fix :)
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[tantek] It’s likely what snarfed has been triggering in the last few days
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[tantek] It’s the field bandage while you work on a cure
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aaronpk too late fixed
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[tantek] Nice
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