#meta 2019-09-15

2019-09-15 UTC
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mfgriffin.com
edited /User:Mfgriffin.com (+354) "wrap up from HWC NYC today."
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[tantek]
Whoa cool! New HWC NYC?
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GWG
I'm configuring these Android TV devices. It has casting support as well as Zoom. Should be a useful tool for IWCs
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GWG
Wonder if I should install anything else.
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@splitbrain
↩️ @tante that still happens #indieweb
(twitter.com/_/status/1173136083946811392)
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[tonz]
How would you consider this situation, in terms of ‘indiewebness’? Some of us already exclude various types of content from their front pages, having them visible only on their own url, as part of search, or in an overview of category / tag specific content. What if one goes one step further, by making certain postings part of the RSS feed, but not of frontpage/category overviews/search. So only RSS and the post being publicly accessible thr
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[tonz]
its URL. I plan to experiment with this as part of the notion of having different postings for various part of my readership. Specifically for my weekly notes about my activities, which is mostly meant for regular readers, RSS is a fine channel, and others don’t really need to be reading it. This does of course, like leaving stuff from my front page, leave those posts outside of h-feeds, although it will be in rss. Thoughts?
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[tonz]
(ping [frank] , see message directly above ^^^^ )
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jeremycherfas
For what it is worth, I think that is perfectly acceptable. But you also probably need to tell some people who may be regular readers and who want to see you weeknotes, how to subscribe.
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[tonz]
They’d be in the regular full RSS feed
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jeremycherfas
But does everyone know how to subscribe?
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jeremycherfas
How to use a reader?
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jeremycherfas
Do you also email a version of the feed?
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jeremycherfas
Rhetorical questions, but things to think about. Which is what you asked for :)
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[tonz]
😄, yeah it’s RSS only so, I might make a bit more effort in explaining what that orange logo on the front page means and add a small wikipage explaining the purpose/use of feedreaders.
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jeremycherfas
Right. And, for some people, there are services that will deliver RSS an an email.
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jeremycherfas
I mean, it depends on how important you think it is for visitors to the site to be able to see tyhose items, if they want to.
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[tonz]
not important to site visitors at all. I am making the assumption rss subscribers are more regular readers, so I could send additional postings their way specifically, that I”m not interested in pushing to ‘everyone’. Such as my weeknotes, which are mostly relevant/legible to people who know a little more about me. All assumption though, and I’ll do this for a while as an experiment.
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jeremycherfas
Fair enough. It will be an interesting experiment whatever happens.
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[tantek]
we do have ephemeral posts
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[tantek]
and I think that makes more sense than something plumbing-specific like "RSS only"
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[tantek]
otherwise every post should still have a permalink
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[tantek]
and RSS doesn't do permalinks
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[schmarty]
tantek: mifga and I had a very ad hoc HWC from our respective apartments yesterday via slack audio
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Loqi
[schmarty]: [jgmac1106] left you a message 4 days, 15 hours ago: the bed time routine a little behind. Train gonna be a little late to Freedom Station. Dave you sending Zoom link?
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[schmarty]
haha that reminds me
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[schmarty]
!tell gwg,jgmac1106 let's set up another iwcnyc touchbase call soon! I am free today (Sunday 9/15)
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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[jgmac1106]
okay we are doing dinner around 2pm figure company will be gone by 5ish I am free after that
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Loqi
[jgmac1106]: [schmarty] left you a message 8 minutes ago: let's set up another iwcnyc touchbase call soon! I am free today (Sunday 9/15)
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GWG
I am at Woodstock for the harvest festival, but will be on tonight
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Loqi
GWG: [schmarty] left you a message 12 minutes ago: let's set up another iwcnyc touchbase call soon! I am free today (Sunday 9/15)
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[tonz]
[tantek] the posts have permalinks, and are accessible through it. They're only pushed through rss, and aren't otherwise discoverable unless you have the uri
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GWG
And I have the tv setup
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[frank]
[tonz] you know I can't talk about it in public 😉 but to be honest, why do you ask the question about "indiewebness"? What if it is or it's not? If you feel you can get specific posts in specific channels, or exclude them on other places, do so. You can always revert the decision if it turns out your hypothesis is false.
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[tonz]
[frank] It’s just that it introduces a difference between h-feeds and rss-feeds in the site. So I was thinking in terms of feedreaders and audiences. While I have a rough idea from the server logs of the number of rss subscribers, I don’t for h-feed readers. RSS only distribution introduces a difference between subscribers that I don’t know how it will play out, our how that would be perceived e.g. on the end of indieweb readers.
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[jgmac1106]
[tonz] I just list a bunch of different feeds on my homepage, most are rss, people like being able to choose
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@pancakeuprising
↩️ Which specific post types are you referring to? I would like to support as many as I can, personally including the following from https://indieweb.org/Category:PostType: checkin, exercise, food, game play, sleep, task, and video.
(twitter.com/_/status/1173323541883904004)
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