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[tantek] Do we have an event page for the social meetup?
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[schmarty] We did not! It's mentioned on /2019/NYC I think
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[jgmac1106] morning all, off to NYC
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@jgmac1106 My view as I head off to @IndieWebCamps NYC https://t.co/G1yBA9CDdK (twitter.com/_/status/1180410752856932352)
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@kevinmarks ↩️ @leashless wordpress is a third of the web still. #indieweb is preserving those standards. (twitter.com/_/status/1180431845713993730)
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@khurtwilliams Blocks and IndieWeb https://islandinthenet.com/blocks-and-indieweb/ (twitter.com/_/status/1180460505259024386)
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@tiereeee Time for IndieWebCamp NYC @indiewebcamp #indieweb #indiewebcampnyc #indiewebcamp https://t.co/MbgUJAK4AN (twitter.com/_/status/1180472466336026625)
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[jgmac1106] here is link to keynote: https://zoom.us/j/4955358768
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@mapkyca ↩️ @indiewebcamp Seeing people using @withknown (or any code I helped write for that matter) makes me very happy (twitter.com/_/status/1180475577301684224)
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@jgmac1106 @amirad we need to teach anywhere in the world at any level, I am so deep into digital privacy...but what is the average person thinking #IndieWeb (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/ZFzt2) (twitter.com/_/status/1180478660077395968)
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@jgmac1106 @amirad "1 and 4 people note they are skilled in data privacy. not surprisingly most people who said they are skilled are men and women note they have the least skill with IoT devices #Indieweb (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/O3BUs) (twitter.com/_/status/1180478982300590084)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ @amirad shares some common reasons, "nothing to hide, can't do it, seen too many Black mirror episodes" #IndieWeb (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/yshoe) (twitter.com/_/status/1180479732988760064)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ "My data is everywhere and it is valuable. It is a mass commodity, the more we give away as a collective group the more power we lose as individuals." #IndieWeb (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/1X7sb) (twitter.com/_/status/1180480101588312064)
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@jgmac1106 Amira's second point, "leaving platforms can not be the only solution. We need to use them ad teach people to use them safely. Don't leave in hordes make it safer for next generations" #IndieWeb (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/1b9T9O) (twitter.com/_/status/1180480484821913600)
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@jgmac1106 Amira's Third point: If you do not build for everyone you are building for no one. #IndieWeb (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/1loZap) (twitter.com/_/status/1180480646571073536)
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@jgmac1106 @amirad "Everyone should be a creator and a maker on the Internet but as long as we realize we can not create for ourselves alone" #IndieWeb (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/1a0CXC) (twitter.com/_/status/1180481092576579586)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ Questions to leave you with, "How do we take our data with us? What privacy do you give up for convenience? How do you empower people to feel they have a role in digital privacy" -@amirad #IndieWeb (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/G6aeu) (twitter.com/_/status/1180481585155629056)
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@jgmac1106 @arush Giving talk to #IndieWeb community different. We usually talk to people about importance of HTML and how new controllers and aria labels aren't as good. You folks are already 10 steps a head of everyone with commitment to Plain Old Semantic HTML (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/7oVcq) (twitter.com/_/status/1180483567303958528)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ : The #IndieWeb community should be really proud of itself. You are helping to build a better web everyday and I hope the small community takes off, in fact I want it to take over everything. (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/14mlt1) (twitter.com/_/status/1180484419754299395)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ Make sure source order and visual order match in your design and your semantics. Remember sometimes your CSS doesn't matter. Most screen readers avoid it all, (except display: none) we do not see it. Do not rely on visual source order. #IndieWeb (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/LcHpe) (twitter.com/_/status/1180484998488625154)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ @arush "this is a biggie" color contrast, this has a lot of fine print attached...this is where designers start to freak thinking color contrast may mess with pretty websites....Amanda reminds us you can be in the guidelines and still pretty #IndieWeb (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/doi4h) (twitter.com/_/status/1180485534076014592)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ Interesting point. @arush notes that with color contrast the users she uses prefer contrast much higher than the general guidelines. "Don't trust Google on accessibility. Underline your links" #IndieWeb (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/2jHDyz) (twitter.com/_/status/1180486070926024704)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ I never knew about removing link underlines. @arush says it can be done but you need to add focus and make sure contrast is correct...just easier to keep the link underlined. #IndieWeb (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/AbsTY) (twitter.com/_/status/1180486491639812096)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ @arush "The first rule of ARIA and accessibility is do not use ARIA. Start with semantic HTML, only use ARIA when there is not a native semantic element. The new semantic HTML elements help us a lot, please use them #IndieWeb (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/yWlOB) (twitter.com/_/status/1180487972963131392)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ Finally captions are real important. Not just for people with hearing diversity, @arush needs captions in all her videos as it is much easier to take notes from caption. Include descriptive audio for blind people. #IndieWeb (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/1b6m9k) (twitter.com/_/status/1180488585948139520)
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[Rose] If you're in the room in NY and have zoom on but are not the official stream please mute your mic 🙂
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aaronpk GWG: you can mute everyone on zoom from the host account
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[Rose] Audio and video are still running
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[Rose] And killed
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[Rose] (It's easier to end the session so you can avoid editing)
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@megarush1024 Obligatory pre-talk selfie Taken earlier today before keynoting Indiewebcamp NYC. https://t.co/8MrEPkRgYz (twitter.com/_/status/1180506991908839424)
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[Rose] Thanks!
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[schmarty] NYC seesion grid https://media.martymcgui.re/3e/10/6f/ad/e8a4ee6d6a37da0db896f97cb2e78a806dd484cd68b016f4fefb1a16.jpg
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[schmarty] gRegorLove ^^
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gRegorLove thanks!
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gRegorLove [schmarty], Is Lounge = Main room?
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[schmarty] Yup!
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[schmarty] Oh! I was also editing the page. I will stop, haha!
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gRegorLove [schmarty], Yeah, go enjoy lunch/irl (indieweb real life) things
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gRegorLove aaronpk, know the zoom link for the conf room?
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gRegorLove or GWG, if you're not out already
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[aaronpk] I'm assuming it'll be the same one as before
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gRegorLove That's the main room. conf room is the second room
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[aaronpk] Oh are they doing two zoom rooms?
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gRegorLove idk. maybe not
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[aaronpk] These are the "red" and "orange" zoom room IDs https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?title=2019/Amsterdam/Schedule&diff=65152&oldid=65093
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[schmarty] gRegorLove++ thank you for the wikifying!!!
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Loqi gRegorLove has 25 karma in this channel over the last year (48 in all channels)
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gRegorLove GWG I couldn't read your hashtag so used #why
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GWG Ok
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GWG tlw - time location weather
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GWG Never mind
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gRegorLove Updated
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@geonz Oh, #indieweb, I'm trying to make my math quiz and standing by the javascript swimming pool with the wave machines but it's time to dive in... (twitter.com/_/status/1180538954182995969)
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gRegorLove [schmarty], wave to Tiara for me
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GWG gRegorLove: I can do it.
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GWG gRegorLove: She wants to see you
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gRegorLove I'm shy. :) Working on some other things and listening in.
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GWG Ok
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GWG Audio working?
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gRegorLove Yep, sounds great!
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@brianleroux ↩️ tired of YOUR data being used for advertising? want to take ownership of your PRIVATE content back? encourage you to check out: https://indieweb.org (twitter.com/_/status/1180543349410762753)
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gRegorLove what is indieweb commitments?
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Loqi 2019-01-01-commitments are implementation and launch commitments publicly made by the IndieWeb community to ship on their personal sites by 2019-01-01 00:00 local time https://indieweb.org/indieweb_commitments
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@t #IndieWebCamp NYC: facilitating session on Why Publish with @schmarty @dshanske @tiereeee et al. Many reasons folks like to publish things (publicly) online. Notes being captured into an Etherpad, to be archived to #indieweb wiki after. #whypublish #meta https://tantek.com/t52u1 (twitter.com/_/status/1180556498906169344)
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aaronpk bad timing!
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[schmarty] back!
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[Rose] They’re doing kernel maintenance on a bunch of servers this month as there’s a security issue. Mine is scheduled for much later in the month
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[Rose] Really?
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[aaronpk] this wasn't even that
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[aaronpk] > We have been alerted to an issue affecting the physical host on which your Linode resides. To resolve this, the host requires emergency maintenance that must be performed immediately.
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[Rose] Huh!
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aaronpk they are very quick to fix these things though!
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@wordcamprocny Happening NOW at #wcroc: WordPress and the IndieWeb: Why You Should Own Your Voice - prented by @DavidWolfpaw https://2019.rochester.wordcamp.org/session/wordpress-and-the-indieweb-why-you-should-own-your-voice/ (twitter.com/_/status/1180565904255533056)
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aaronpk oh hey
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gRegorLove schmarty: let me know when the etherpad for last session is updated with your local notes, then I'll dump it
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@mirigoldman And now for @DavidWolfpaw speaking on WordPress and the Indieweb - Why You Should Use Your Own Voice. #wcroc (twitter.com/_/status/1180569657679450112)
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gRegorLove tantek: I started /2019/NYC/Photos
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gRegorLove for photos
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@jgmac1106 A great first day for @IndieWebCamp NYC. Can't wait to see everyone tomorrow. Hope to get a post up soon. (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/wHrzV) (twitter.com/_/status/1180598072675463168)
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@jgmac1106 Random but awesome Mixed Media Art show as an @IndieWebCamp NYC after event https://t.co/fvndKs0y4l (twitter.com/_/status/1180624585278005248)
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@jgmac1106 More photos of art exhibit I found after @IndieWebCamp NYC day one. https://t.co/R1QJUOy3rX (twitter.com/_/status/1180625114234269696)