#meta 2019-10-08

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@jgmac1106 Day Two @indiewebcamp NYC Crew Left to Right Row One: @nshad314 @tiereeee Josephine Zephyr. Back Row: @jgmac1106 @t dmitshur @teonbrooks @dshanske (https://jgregorymcverry.com/notes/2019-10-07-2) (twitter.com/_/status/1181385359999062018)
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@jgmac1106 Trying to share an #IndieWeb photo lead me down the rabbit hole of styling photo posts for my site (https://jgregorymcverry.com/notes/2019-10-07-3) (twitter.com/_/status/1181388030516576257)
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@depone Den kommenden Homebrew Website Club Karlsruhe mussten wir um einen Tag verschieben, daher findet er ausserhalb der Reihe am DIENSTAG 15. Oktober 2019 19:30 - 22:00 Uhr Im @cafenun statt. Sei dabei uns arbeite mit uns an Deiner Webseite. https://indieweb.org/events/2019-10-16-homebrew-website-club#Karlsruhe #IndieWeb #HWC (twitter.com/_/status/1181478972066074624)
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@scottishstoater ↩️ @RDallaire I realllllly want to implement something similar to what @mxbck has here: https://mxb.dev/blog/indieweb-link-sharing/ (twitter.com/_/status/1181487121292578816)
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[tantek] Interesting cook / bake it yourself analogy: https://twitter.com/soapdog/status/1181531798880301056
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@soapdog #Scheme implementations are like cupcakes. There are a gazillion of them out there. Some taste quite different but they are all recognizable as cupcakes. If you start eating them regularly, eventually you'll end up with the need to cook one of your own. (twitter.com/_/status/1181531798880301056)
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@mantonsblog We forgot to take a group shot at the IndieWeb Meetup in Austin last week, but just noticed as I was flipping through photos that I had this one of my iced coffee and stickers. Next meetup is Nov 6th. (twitter.com/_/status/1181668335043395585)
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@IndieWebLife Why I'm supporting the IndieWeb (and you should too) - marketgoo #indieweb https://www.marketgoo.com/2019/04/30/why-support-indieweb/ (twitter.com/_/status/1181671958901080065)
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[snarfed] aaronpk re slack, for mapping username to id, i just pull all users with https://api.slack.com/methods/users.list . not elegant, but works
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aaronpk yeah, I obviously can't do that every time, so i'll have to schedule that to happen periodically
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@joenio Quer fazer seu próprio site HTML à "moda antiga"? Com total controle sobre tudo? Saiba como no 1º Homebrew Website Club Brasília dia 11/outubro às 19h no @calangohc https://calango.club/homebrew_website_club (twitter.com/_/status/1181684141848481792)
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[tantek] > https://chat.indieweb.org/2019-10-08/1570571767139900
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Loqi [aaronpk] But for real tho, there's no get started with a blog in 10 minutes story with a new domain because you have to wait for dns
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[tantek] One thing we brainstormed right after IWC NYC was a *hack start* or whatever we want to call it, session at the very end of day 1
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aaronpk Oh like get a domain registered so it's ready by day 2?
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[tantek] just to get folks to engage and connect *something* from the day 1 discussions into a creative act of some sort, just a start (nothing demoable expected obviously)
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[tantek] and yes, exactly that
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aaronpk Not a bad idea!
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[tantek] too many have struggled with this and lost precious hours on day 2 because of this
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aaronpk Might help encourage people to stick around for the second day!
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aaronpk We usually lose people day 2, so anything that encourages ppl to come back is good
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[tantek] that too, if people start on something, and deliberately leave it incomplete, there's a built-in draw / incentive to come back and finish *something*
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[tantek] I'm wondering if such a "hack start" session can get people inspired enough to come back
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aaronpk I think it's worth a try!
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[tantek] there is a certain joy in starting something that if we can tap into, might be enough to carry them back to day 2
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[tantek] I wonder if there is time to figure out how to do this for IWC Brighton
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[tantek] I'd like to try
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aaronpk I think so
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[tantek] and as something for *everyone*, not just people who don't have a domain / are getting started
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aaronpk Yeah
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aaronpk I'll be there so I can help too
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[tantek] ok!
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[tantek] that would be great. I think it will require a few of us organizers to help "coach" folks through
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[tantek] like obviously *we* are coming back on day 2, so we're less concerned about losing ourselves 🙂
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[tantek] Ok I'm going to put it down as an urgent topic for https://indieweb.org/2019/Brighton/Organizers for us to figure out
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dougbeal could provide a starter domain at username.domain.indieweb.org
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dougbeal or make it really long username.brighton.2019.domain.indieweb.org, so you clearly want a real name
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tantek.com edited /2019/Brighton/Organizers (+2092) "topics, Day 1 Start Hack" (view diff)
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[tantek] really don't want to amplify or validate any use of subdomains for identity
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[tantek] that's a really bad trap
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[tantek] added basically what I said above: https://indieweb.org/2019/Brighton/Organizers#Day_1_Start_Hack
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[tantek] ^^^ if you're coming to Brighton, please add your ideas there
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aaronpk agreed, see my rant about mastodon in the main channel earlier today
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[tantek] Idea for a blog post: "The Subdomain Identity Trap"
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aaronpk it applies to paths as well (mastodon.social/@username)
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[tantek] yes
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[tantek] The "Subdomain Path Identity Trap"
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[tantek] avoid the SPIT
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aaronpk 😂
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[KevinMarks] Hah. They can use github.io to get something up, see a site, then get a domain and their dns isn't bad.
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[fluffy] Once again I really want to build (or more realistically see someone else build) a simple indieweb profile service where you can get like id.indieweb.org/~username which said user can log into and then associate whatever other <link rel>s they want elsewhere
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aaronpk sounds like about.me
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[fluffy] with obvious defaults for authorization and token
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[fluffy] yeah something like that
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aaronpk I don't see how that helps the overall goals of the indieweb
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[fluffy] I love how about.me has a glaring typo under “professional domains”
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[fluffy] It provides people a stepping stone for communicating via indieweb protocols without needing to run their own website and register a domain and whatever
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aaronpk while still relying on a questionable authority
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[fluffy] sure
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aaronpk I would rather they sign up for micro.blog which has an actual business model
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[fluffy] but one that they could conceivably migrate away from when they see the need to
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[fluffy] well okay micro.blog could be the de-facto indieweb identity provider, sure
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[fluffy] does it let you set custom link headers, like for microsub endpoints or whatever?
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aaronpk HTML tags, not link headers, but yea
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[fluffy] I only played with it briefly.
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[fluffy] okay as long as it does allow people to do that then the thing I keep wanting already exists 🙂
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[KevinMarks] About.me have been jerks about h-card and rel=me for ever
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[fluffy] I mean I’m not saying it would literally be about.me, I’m not even the one who brought it up. 😛 Just like, an indieweb-focused version of it would be great.
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[fluffy] And it sounds like micro.blog is that already.
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[KevinMarks] Lol https://about.me/kevinmarks
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[fluffy] haha
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[fluffy] aw, someone else already claimed about.me/fluffy, wellp I guess I can never use that service
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aaronpk it's okay
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aaronpk nobody cares about it anyway
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[jgmac1106] Grantcodes made an h-card directory. You sign up, page gets parsed, h-card displayed. That's the IndieWeb AboutMe