#meta 2019-12-16

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@bradenslen I just set up https://b2evolution.net/ CMS/blog(s) ver 6.11.4. It has the ability to send and receive Webmentions as per the Indieweb. This was discussed before but now I can confirm. I’m still wandering around the backend getting familier with it. (twitter.com/_/status/1206369925457235969)
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david.shanske.com edited /2019-12-indieweb-gift-calendar (+112) (view diff)
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@jgmac1106 @xolotl @masssly @ZuZage @mwintirew @Bali_Maha @GereonKalkuhl @friedelitis @frimelle Our @opencollective for the @GOIFoundation is now live: https://opencollective.com/global-open-initiative-foundation suppoort our @MozOpenLeaders ,@wikipedia, #OER and #IndieWeb projects. (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/f40Ks) (twitter.com/_/status/1206387435694940163)
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@ChrisAldrich ↩️ I’d recommend taking a look at the Blogging Futures experiment using the blogchain idea. The IndieWeb is using the idea of Webmention to allow site-to-site communication and commenting. [more...] https://boffosocko.com/2019/12/15/55761743/ (twitter.com/_/status/1206411194023546880)
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chrisaldrich.net edited /b2evolution (+129) "/* IndieWeb Support */ confirmation of webmention support" (view diff)
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@HongPong ↩️ APIs are coming back http://indieweb.org #indieweb and various protocol specs approved by W3C ... this whole area is still happening (twitter.com/_/status/1206417638739644416)
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beesbuzz.biz edited /2019-12-indieweb-gift-calendar (+88) (view diff)
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@ZipperHost WordPress and IndieWeb: Creating Your Dialtone on the Internet #indieweb https://boffosocko.com/2019/11/03/wordpress-and-indieweb-creating-your-dialtone-on-the-internet/ (twitter.com/_/status/1206454012842840064)
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@JamieTanna ↩️ As I've gone all in on the #IndieWeb technologies, I've been using @AaronPK's service https://aperture.p3k.io which supports the open https://indieweb.org/Microsub standard, which supports RSS among other formats - may be worth looking into as it's a great… https://www.jvt.me/mf2/2019/12/08srv/ (twitter.com/_/status/1206471772725547008)
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mblaney.xyz edited /2019-12-indieweb-gift-calendar (+102) "I Haza Website domain registration" (view diff)
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@mtfreshagency @wencesg says: "we're facing the unethical evolution of many social platforms, but there is a movement called the #IndieWeb that understands you're done with others owning your content and your identity!" https://buff.ly/2pTyo6E #startup (twitter.com/_/status/1206493676433747969)
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@stevepurkiss ↩️ @bertboerland me too ;) keen to try out the http://dgo.to/indieweb goodness! (twitter.com/_/status/1206512312091389952)
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[jgmac1106] this is up yesterday not sure if it counts as a gift: https://opencollective.com/global-open-initiative-foundation
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@jgmac1106 #literacies #digped and #openpedagogy We need help. @goifoundation has a open collective: https://opencollective.com/global-open-initiative-foundation we need to raise $$. Cover a @wikipedia editathon for $20 US or help cover our $2,500 @mozopenleaders #OER and #IndieWeb program (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/1XxVjO) (twitter.com/_/status/1206535494705860610)
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@ZipperHost Bridging the IndieWeb and the Fediverse, part 3 – WordPress ActivityPub plugin #indieweb https://doubleloop.net/2019/05/21/bridging-indieweb-fediverse-part-3-wordpress-activitypub-plugin/ (twitter.com/_/status/1206559746272178176)
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marinin[m] https://frankchimero.com/writing/the-webs-grain/
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marinin[m] While this piece is about developing for the web, there is something quite indiewebesque in my opinion
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marinin[m] “Up to a point, swapping autonomy for ease is a pretty good trade: who wants to run the math on their accounting books or call the restaurant to place a delivery order? But if taken too far, convenience becomes a Trojan Horse. We cede too much control and become dependent on something we can no longer steer. Platforms that promised to bring convenience to a process or intimacy to a relationship now wedge themselve
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marinin[m] into the transaction as new middlemen. Then, we’re left to trust in the benevolence of those who have the power to mold our dependencies”
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@jgmac1106 Huge shout-out to @mblaney who just added Domain registration to @ihazawebsite https://i.haza.website/ with the help of @namedotcom, long time #IndieWeb supporters (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/uJxOx) (twitter.com/_/status/1206590963835166723)
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@kisik21 This is how onboarding would probably look in Kittybox. #IndieWeb (twitter.com/_/status/1206604261888548865)
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@kisik21 This is how onboarding will probably look in Kittybox. #IndieWeb https://t.co/lpLDU8wnbs (twitter.com/_/status/1206604700767928321)
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[jgmac1106] vika I would avoid jargon in your onboarding
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[jgmac1106] maybe add a link to "Learn How Your Profile Works" or at least move the h-card info below the input fields
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@saskia747 Wie schauts aus #webdev ladys? @susiverse @setily1 Lust auf ein Treffen diesen Mittwoch 18/12 beim #HomebrewWebsiteClub im @tollwerk? (twitter.com/_/status/1206639120711344128)
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chrisaldrich.net edited /lost_infrastructure (+256) "/* Related articles */ The Internet We Lost (The Weeds Podcast | Vox.com)" (view diff)
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[jgmac1106] it looks amazing htough vika, so many things coming online
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[jgmac1106] Vika++
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Loqi Vika has 1 karma in this channel over the last year (2 in all channels)
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[tantek] hmm, not finding any actual pages for HWC this week
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[tantek] HWC St. Petersburg is still on for 12/22
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[tantek] ?
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[jgmac1106] [Sadik_Shahadu] did you make a page for your 12/15 meet-up. Apoligize I couldn't make it...finals week
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@david_bokan ↩️ Requiring the receiving site to opt-in defeats much of the purpose of this feature since the site could just implement this feature in JS (e.g. https://indieweb.org/fragmention). An opt-out might be useful for truly privacy critical pages like your example. (twitter.com/_/status/1206650916318916611)
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[tantek] [jgmac1106] actually I should be asking on Friday, because Monday morning is nearly too late for me to add the events to the Mozilla Weekly Project meeting
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[Sadik_Shahadu] This ?https://indieweb.org/events/2019-12-15-goif-meetup
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[Sadik_Shahadu] Yet to transfer notes and pictures [jgmac1106]
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[jgmac1106] ohh I thought this was newsletter stuff
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[jgmac1106] awesome Sadik....I worked on some curriculum this morning
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[jgmac1106] hope to wrap that up this week once grade are in
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[tantek] and yes, good to get at least photos in *before* the newsletter on Friday!
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@amoroso ↩️ @MikeElgan Why can Google save social media and not, say, the IndieWeb? (twitter.com/_/status/1206659322626891779)
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@marinintim ↩️ 24 дня индивеба: ActivityPub Гостевой пост! @grishka11 рассказывает про ActivityPub, альтернативный вариант для федеративных социальных сетей https://marinintim.com/2019/indieweb/16/ (twitter.com/_/status/1206660491491315713)
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gRegorLove !tell [Sadik_Shahadu], [jgmac1106] I made some updates to the upcoming GOIF event pages, added h-event and p-name microformats, which makes the full event name show up in the newsletter. Let me know if you have any questions when adding new GOIF event pages.
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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gregorlove.com edited /Events (+20) "mv past December to recent" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /events/2019 (+8176) "archive Septemeber" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /Events () "(-8178) archive September to https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?title=events/2019&oldid=67330#September" (view diff)
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gRegorLove !tell marinin[m] is St Petersburg still on for 12/22? Just double checking before creating the wiki event page. I found https://marinintim.com/2019/hwc/
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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gRegorLove [tantek], ^indie event page, so maybe enough to add it?
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[tantek] gRegorLove too late now, and no I haven't been adding anything but the wiki page to the Mozilla meeting announcements
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[Sadik_Shahadu] Ok. Am yet to work in the news letter
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[tantek] TBH most "indie event" pages still look like blog posts, so to the non-indieweb community person, they're easily ignorable
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gRegorLove ah, oh well
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[tantek] whereas at least our HWC event pages have a consistent event-like look & feel, which seems to work better
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gRegorLove Yep, I need to improve on my event posts too
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[tantek] the indie events that folks are posting are great for folks who are already *in* the indieweb community
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[tantek] not so good for promoting and doing outreach, especially diverse outreach
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gRegorLove to clarify, I meant is it enough for me to make a wiki event page based on the indie event page
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[tantek] ohhhhhh
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gRegorLove Though no rush now since the Moz newsletter passed
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[tantek] I mean yeah, except I'd check with the organizer first to give them a chance to at least try to do it (maybe give some hints how you do it?)
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[tantek] still useful to do it as far in advance of the event as possible
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[tantek] so there's still time pressure
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[tantek] especially for the first HWC in a city, the more heads-up the better
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gRegorLove True. I'll wait to see if marinin[m] responds today and if nothing, add it.
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gRegorLove They linked the indie event on /HWC, may not have been aware of the individual event pages.
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[tantek] could use some help with updating /b2evolution and /friendly accordingly per https://twitter.com/bradenslen/status/1206369925457235969
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@bradenslen I just set up https://b2evolution.net/ CMS/blog(s) ver 6.11.4. It has the ability to send and receive Webmentions as per the Indieweb. This was discussed before but now I can confirm. I’m still wandering around the backend getting familier with it. (twitter.com/_/status/1206369925457235969)
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[tantek] also when did b2evolution ship with Webmention support turned on by default? that's worthy of an announcement / blog post on its own!
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[tantek] (if you can figure out which build the Webmention support was released in)
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@ZipperHost Narwhal Microblog Plugin for WordPress: Quickly Posting Notes to your IndieWeb Site #indieweb https://boffosocko.com/2019/11/20/narwhal-microblog-plugin-for-wordpress-quickly-posting-notes-to-your-indieweb-site/ (twitter.com/_/status/1206665503286145036)
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gRegorLove chrisaldrich updated the support section with link. I'll update the dfn to match
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aaronpk looks like march? https://b2evolution.net/news/2019/03/22/b2evolution-6-11-beta-with
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gregorlove.com edited /b2evolution (+64) "now supports webmention, in dfn" (view diff)
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@rapportaucorps ↩️ @ju3R57xKlKYv7 @truc_moche C'est le principe de POSSE d'indieweb https://indieweb.org/POSSE-fr (twitter.com/_/status/1206676857795596289)
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marinin[m] HWC in SPb scheduled at 2019-12-22, Sunday
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marinin[m] https://marinintim.com/2019/hwc/
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gRegorLove marinin[m], Great! Would you like to try setting up the wiki event page for it? https://indieweb.org/events/2019-12-22-homebrew-website-club
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gRegorLove You can clone the latest revision of https://indieweb.org/events/2019-12-11-homebrew-website-club as a starting point.
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gRegorLove We try to get those event pages set up in advance as much as possible; they're linked in the weekly newsletter. Next one goes out this Friday
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marinin[m] As far as I understand it, spb is the only city to have hwc at 2019-12-22, should I delete other cities?
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gRegorLove Yeah
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gRegorLove Or comment them out
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marinintim.com created /events/2019-12-22-homebrew-website-club (+12460) "First draft" (view diff)
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marinin[m] Ok, I’ve mostly commented everything out, should I update some links somewhere else?
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[tantek] for non-Wednesday HWCs, you may delete other cities
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gRegorLove marinin[m]++ Thanks for setting that up! It should already be linked from /events.
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@david_bokan ↩️ assuming you mean: https://indieweb.org/fragmention, the main points: 1. fragmentation doesn't work where the page uses frag-based routing. Users might want to link to such pages and we can't tell a priori if it will work or not. It'd be confusing why some pages don't work. (twitter.com/_/status/1206691203741364228)
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gRegorLove marinin[m], looks good! For linking to your wiki user page you want two square brackets: [[User:Marinintim.com]]
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gregorlove.com edited /Template:Homebrew_Website_Club (+54) "+2019-12-22" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /2019-review (+71) "/* Homebrew Website Club */ +Saint Petersburg" (view diff)
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kaja.sknebel.net edited /User:Kaja.sknebel.net/upcoming-hwcs (+328) "update from /Events" (view diff)
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@tmcw does anyone else publish book reviews on their personal website with hreview/microschema markup? in the spirit of #indieweb i'm open to cross-linking some reviews. (twitter.com/_/status/1206696574253797376)
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@ihazawebsite http://i.haza.website now provides domain registration via @namedotcom! Currently no other hosting fees, easiest way to create your own website and join the IndieWeb! (twitter.com/_/status/1206705752754155520)
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gRegorLove mblaney++ awesome!
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[tantek] When did that happen? That needs to go on the Gift Calendar!
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kaja.sknebel.net edited /User:Kaja.sknebel.net/upcoming-hwcs (+0) "update from /Events" (view diff)
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@namedotcom Not sure if you've heard of #IndieWeb, but it's that notion that you should be able to keep your own content in your control. Join the group and share your solutions to decentralize the web. https://indieweb.org/ (twitter.com/_/status/1206711779721539584)
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[tantek] nice
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aaronpk oh the quote tweet didn't come thru, I thought I had that working
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aaronpk !rt https://twitter.com/namedotcom/status/1206711779721539584
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Loqi Thanks! We need one more person to confirm the retweet!
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mblaney !rt https://twitter.com/namedotcom/status/1206711779721539584
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Loqi Thanks mblaney and aaronpk! https://twitter.com/indiewebcamp/status/1206714020410998784
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mblaney (haha a little biased!)
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mblaney namedotcom are being very supportive <3
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aaronpk that's awesome
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[dougbeal] @mblaney: ihaza dot ws is available 😉
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[tantek] lol
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[tantek] what is .ws
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Loqi WebSub (previously known as PubSubHubbub or PuSH, and briefly PubSub) is a notification-based protocol for web publishing and subscribing to streams and legacy feed files in real time https://indieweb.org/ws
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mblaney thanks dougbeal, I have too many domain names as it is :-P
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aaronpk how many did you have to buy while testing the name.com api? :D
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mblaney ihaza western samoa
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mblaney just one actually!
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mblaney I bought badgemakr.com, thought I might get to jgmac1106's badge idea one day...
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[tantek] oh no, just saw this 😂 https://twitter.com/FitnSpicyLiving/status/1190442763109580800
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@FitnSpicyLiving @t Hi Mr. Celik, I have created a WordPress website http://sattvikanutrition.com for my company using a wrapper provided by GoDaddy. Why is your website http://gmpg.org included in my website code without my consent? It is causing "not secure" message with my SSL enabled website. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EIVNYWJX0AMSwqx.jpg (twitter.com/_/status/1190442763109580800)
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GWG_ [tantek]: Fun tweet
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[tantek] I have no idea how to even begin
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aaronpk wow
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aaronpk pretty sure that's not where the insecure warning is coming from tho lol
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GWG_ Regardless, how is it your fault?
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mblaney namedotcom give you a dev sandbox with credit, so you don't really need to buy any domain names to test. I just wanted to make sure the whole purchasing flow worked for realz.
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aaronpk oh that's awesome
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gRegorLove [tantek] https://gph.is/1zQV4vq
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[tantek] really wanting Loqi to start capturing timestamps (in addition to datestamps) when expanding tweets into See Also sections