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@ZipperHost An Alphabet of IndieWeb Building Blocks: Article to Z #indieweb https://tantek.com/2015/224/b1/alphabet-indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/1211089568205824001)
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[tantek] aaronpk, "Tags" is a decent top level nav link item
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[tantek] or if you want to be trendy, call it "Discover" 😛
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aaronpk actually...
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aaronpk i kind of like "discover" because it means i can do things other than tags there
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[tantek] aaronpk, re: confusion of which indie event to RSVP to, the need for an actual ticket is the right UI to disable an RSVP somewhere else
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[tantek] (yes the 😛 was only 1/2 😉, "Discover" is a fairly common nav item these days, and incorporates tags, people/accounts, and sometimes search too)
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[tantek] rather than a [x] needs ticket checkbox, the pre-existing UI for this is a Ticket URL: [ ____ ] field, which if non-empty (e.g. filled in with the 2020 indieweb org URL) should disable RSVPs to the event on events indieweb org.
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aaronpk I like that, right now there's only a "website" field, but having an explicit "ticket URL" field sounds like a reasonable way to also handle disabling RSVPs
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aaronpk would there be any other reasons to disable RSVPs than that?
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[tantek] don't worry about it until a concrete example comes up. maybe. but that's a future design iteration
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[tantek] premature generalization results in more confusing UI, more code, more bugs.
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aaronpk in that case i think i will implement an explicit "rsvps supported" property in the data model, but have that always be set based on whether or not there is a ticket URL
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[tantek] "Ticket URL" is a UI element from Facebook's event creation UI
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aaronpk that'll let me add additional UI or other rules later without as much change internally
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[tantek] right, I'm more concerned with the UI for now. how you implement it in the data model is an implementation detaill IMO :)
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aaronpk yea
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aaronpk just thinking it through
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aaronpk if RSVPs are disabled, should it say anything about that? or just leave out the RSVP section and ignore RSVP webmentions?
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[tantek] yes leave out the RSVP section
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[tantek] instead link to the ticket URL (assuming it's a URL that *does* accept RSVPs)
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[tantek] or if it doesn't, e.g. an Eventbrite URL, then you may wish to provide the ability to RSVP to the indie event separately from the eventbrite ticket URL
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aaronpk so that's the question
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aaronpk does adding a ticket URL always disable RSVPs
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aaronpk i like the simplicity of that
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aaronpk and also that way it doesn't make it look like the ticket site is optional, whether or not that is an eventbrite or tito or other indie RSVP supporting url
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[tantek] you can either automate the [x] Ticket URL supports Indie RSVP, or imply it by doing webmention discovery on the ticket URL
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[tantek] since for now 100% of ticket URLs that accept webmentions also accept RSVPs
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[tantek] the simplicity of predictably disabling RSVPs by adding a ticket URL does have appeal
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[tantek] so if an organizer uses Eventbrite, they're basically making a policy decision that they care more about Eventbrite than supporting indie RSVPs
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tantek.com edited /photo (+254) "/* Tantek */ update some details, previous auto-POSSEing to FB" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /photo_upload (+163) "/* POSSE */ +Twitter automatically, Facebook & IG manually" (view diff)
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@ZipperHost Re: Chris Aldrich on making the IndieWeb easier for Generation 2 users? #indieweb http://johnjohnston.info/blog/re-chris-aldrich-on-making-the-indieweb-easier-for-generation-2-users/ (twitter.com/_/status/1211149951247540224)
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@ZipperHost Building an IndieWeb Reader « Island in the Net #indieweb https://islandinthenet.com/building-an-indieweb-reader/?utm_medium=feed&utm_source=feedpress.me&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+island (twitter.com/_/status/1211255674803503104)
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martymcgui.re edited /Flickr (+411) "/* See Also */ link cleanup. add SmugMug blog post about Flickr losing money" (view diff)
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@frankmeeuwsen Mijn volgende blogpost in de serie “Hoe kun je #WordPress gebruiken in het Indieweb”, de webmentions! Communiceer met andere sites alsof het sociale netwerken zijn! https://diggingthedigital.com/wordpress-en-webmentions/ (twitter.com/_/status/1211302007656603649)
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tantek.com edited /local_comments (+328) "dfn, also called native comments, like an article" (view diff)
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jamietanna[m] Where should I link my post https://www.jvt.me/posts/2019/08/21/rsvp-from-your-website/ to https://indieweb.org/rsvp#How_to_RSVP_with_HTML ?
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Loqi [Jamie Tanna] How to RSVP to an Indie Event from your Website
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@ZipperHost The IndieWeb, Discovery and Web Search #indieweb https://ramblinggit.com/2018/07/the-indieweb-discovery-and-web-search/ (twitter.com/_/status/1211361348774445056)
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[fluffy] I have no idea why a bunch of old Publ blog posts ended up getting re-sent to IndieWeb News.
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[fluffy] oh, it looks like they got re-pung as https for some reason. weird.
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[fluffy] oh for heck’s sake, I see what happened, argh
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[fluffy] anyway sorry about that 😛
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[tantek] you can remove the u-syndication link and re-webmention if you want to un-pung them as it were 🙂
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[fluffy] I ended up just making https canonical since publ.beesbuzz.biz supports https now (it didn’t before when it was on heroku) and so at best I’d be, like, removing the old http posts and keeping the flood of new https ones around 😛
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[fluffy] does news.indieweb support dt-published?
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@jackyalcine I need a weekend/alt Twitter and a ‘normal’ Twitter. If only I could subject content to specific timelines/feeds. Simply done on my IndieWeb site! (twitter.com/_/status/1211384134989422593)
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@eeril ↩️ Is there a way to endorse a product in indieweb? Where do you think one's endorsements should live on? How do you picture product endorsements from the lenses of #me2b? (twitter.com/_/status/1211398413482373125)
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@neauoire ↩️ Our friendly neighboors Eco Anarchists: https://sunbeam.city Retro Computing devs: https://hackers.town Gitch artists: https://tilde.town Indieweb artists: https://xoxo.zone Our instance: https://merveilles.town (twitter.com/_/status/1211405941209473025)
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[tantek] Well I wasn't expecting the whole of XOXO to get branded as "Indieweb", or "artists" for that matter
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[fluffy] That doesn’t seem like a particularly on point description of tilde.town either
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@xuv RT @neauoire@merveilles.town My favourite neighbours Eco Anarchists: https://sunbeam.city Retro Computing devs: https://hackers.town Glitch artists: https://tilde.town Indieweb artists: https://xoxo.zone https://merveilles.to… https://merveilles.town/@neauoire/103393319167730843 (twitter.com/_/status/1211421000811737088)
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aaronpk [fluffy]: I think it does? Can't remember anymore tbh tho it's been so long since I wrote it
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[fluffy] I just ask because my accidental reposts from https last night were all marked as being “12 minutes ago” or whatever and were all at the head of the stream
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[fluffy] And AFAIK my dt-published attributes are correct
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