#meta 2020-04-30

2020-04-30 UTC
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gRegorLove Thanks for your etherpad notes, Salt. I mentioned in topic intros that one of the topics to vote on would be a 30 minute writing/working time but then forgot to put it in the list, haha
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Salt[m] great, I have some thoughts on how to format the pad itself to better support facilitation, need to get some bandwidth...
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Salt[m] no need to copy all of my random chatter btw
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gRegorLove Yeah I wasn't sure about doing the voting there, though I think it worked ok
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gRegorLove So many have these have been discussion-heavy and demos, so I wonder about setting up separate times for more casual hangout/writing/coding
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Salt[m] gRegorLove: yeah, voting on the pad worked well
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gRegorLove Like Friday AM chrisaldrich did a popup water cooler Zoom. I did a lunch one too.
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gRegorLove I like the discussion and demos, to be clear. Demos might engage more people in conversation, too. Also just nice to look at things for a change of pace.
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gRegorLove If anyone would like to organize next week, let me know. I'll tentatively host if no one else wants to.
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[tantek] gRegorLove ping me and I think I can help or primary co-organize next week though I always appreciate hosting with a co-pilot
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[tantek] aaronpk, re: "something in chat.indieweb.org for that now that it knows people are logged in" for notifying outstanding !talk messages I can just imagine you putting a little red number on an envelope in the top right corner for that lol
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gRegorLove With password Zoom links and the Waiting Room feature, I wonder about loosening the screensharing restriction.
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[tantek] the password zoom makes a big difference
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gRegorLove Late in the meeting, I did turn on Waiting Room
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gRegorLove No one came in after that though
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gRegorLove Noo, not one more inbox ;)
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Salt[m] gRegorLove: btw, dunno if it was just the weird setup I had, but having Zoom chat is nice for those who have connection issues :P
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gRegorLove That's what indieweb chat is for :)
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gRegorLove oh wow, I forgot etherpad even had chat. just saw your messages there.
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Salt[m] :P
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gRegorLove too many chats, too many chats...
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[tantek] Lololol etherpad chat. Literally every program grows to have its own chat function. Or people use it for chat like google docs
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lahacker i don't see a "meetable" in the IndieWeb github repositories
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GWG lahacker: Check aaronpk's
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lahacker cool thanks gwg
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Salt[m] [tantek]: since no one was checking it or responding to -chat, I started google doc chatting...
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Salt[m] [tantek]: but it is pretty funny. That being said, my normal facilitation process does heavily prefer something like the etherpad chat, because it's ephemeral and directly visible without hiding the notes
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[Arne] [gRegorLove] something wrong with the web analytics edits I made?
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[Arne] !tell gRegorLove something wrong with the edits I made to web analytics?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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[tantek] What is meetable?
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Loqi Meetable is an open source events aggregator that is used for the IndieWeb events site, https://events.indieweb.org https://indieweb.org/Meetable
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[tantek] lahacker ^^^ best way to find anything IndieWeb related is to ask that, rather than search Github
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GWG We need to schedule an online organizer meeting to settle the questions re Summit.
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GWG Does anyone want to take the lead on that?
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GWG Figuring out a time, I mean
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GWG [tantek], aaronpk As the organizers of record for IWS, should a meeting be on Pacific time?
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[tantek] GWG, sounds good. And yes, preferably 🙂
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GWG Midday, afternoon, evening, or weekend?
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GWG If we do weekend morning, that will be afternoon NYC and evening Europe, which may work
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GWG The latest we can do if we want Europe is about 2-3PM Pacific
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gRegorLove Not sure what you mean [Arne]
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Loqi gRegorLove: [Arne] left you a message 9 hours ago: something wrong with the edits I made to web analytics?
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[Arne] i changed the section on Indiemetrics (I am Q4.re 😉 )
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[Arne] i am the maker so is that the reason?
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gRegorLove what is indiemetrics?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "indiemetrics" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "indiemetrics is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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gRegorLove I don't think I've updated analytics pages recently
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gRegorLove what is analytics?
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Loqi analytics is the collection, analysis and reporting of a websites traffic https://indieweb.org/analytics
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gRegorLove That page?
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gRegorLove It looks like you reverted to my last edit
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[Arne] ok this is weird
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[Arne] i put it back to my last edit (i think, it referred back again just before)
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gRegorLove indiemetrics shows up for me
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gRegorLove yeah, reverting can be weird. I don't have much experience with it in mediawiki
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[Arne] it seems to stay, so that's okay
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[Arne] sorry to bother you 😉
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gRegorLove no worries
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[Arne] gRegorLove++
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Loqi gRegorLove has 32 karma in this channel over the last year (80 in all channels)
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gRegorLove [tantek]: [Kevin Faaborg] from last night's meetup said he could volunteer to host/co-host HWC
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GWG gRegorLove: Was that before or after he became the host accidentally?
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gRegorLove Well I joked about it on the call, but he DMed to say he actually could :)
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[tantek] Nice!
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gRegorLove Writing a post about last night's meetup. Am I forgetting a demo? Kevin, Angelo, Katherine, Tantek, Kartik. Anyone else?
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gRegorLove And Sarah.
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gRegorLove Think that's it
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[Kevin_Faaborg] is Zoom the only way to work the video and screen sharing? have people here tried alternatives?
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gRegorLove We've used Hangouts in the past. I think we might have gotten trolls that way, but maybe only when streaming Hangouts on Air.
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gRegorLove I think Hangouts is limited to 10 people
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gRegorLove There was some talk of trying Meet a few weeks ago, though it's only available for GSuite users to start one, not regular Google accounts.
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gRegorLove I just posted notes from last night including thoughts on re-enabling Zoom screenshare https://gregorlove.com/2020/04/homebrew-website-club-notes/#feedback
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GWG gRegorLove: Meet is now free...the Hangouts successor
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gRegorLove Ah, that's new. It says "Soon" when I vist meet.google.com
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gRegorLove early May
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GWG I can do it with Meet
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[Aaron_Klemm] Is Jitsi workable? I’ve been curious about it since the world ended a few weeks ago, but haven’t tried it yet.
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gRegorLove Mixed results. Some criticism on /Jitsi
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aaronpk both they and zoom have been pushing out lots of new features though, so it's worth re-evaluating everything