#meta 2020-05-21

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kaja.sknebel.net edited /User:Kaja.sknebel.net/upcoming-hwcs (+169) "update from events.indieweb.org" (view diff)
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[KevinMarks] I haven't been using noterlive with these - somehow it's harder with zoom than in person
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aaronpk concentration factor
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aaronpk conference call fatigue
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aaronpk i've seen a few terms used
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aaronpk https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20200421-why-zoom-video-chats-are-so-exhausting
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[KevinMarks] it's also the thing of looking at the faces, and so not wanting to be looking at the noterlive app on my 2nd screen. I suppose I could put the faces ont he 2nd screen so it looks like I have some kind of eye contact but it's still weird
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GWG Is someone hosting west coast?
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GWG It says they are waiting for a host.
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lahacker i don't remember electing anyone last time
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GWG I'll start the meeting
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GWG And we'll figure it out
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aaronpk is reading https://thewebivore.com/the-art-of-gathering-remotely/ to get some ideas for whatever we do to replace indieweb summit
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tantek.com edited /Template:IndieWebCamp (-45) "no 2020 summit" (view diff)
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[tantek] Thinking of redoing https://indieweb.org/Planning#2020 for online events for the rest of the year, and pushing all city planning to 2021. What do people think?
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aaronpk 👍
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aaronpk At this rate I'm not even confident about the first half of 2021
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[tantek] I have a feeling parts of Europe will have it under control in 2021H1
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[tantek] and some States
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kaja.sknebel.net edited /User:Kaja.sknebel.net/upcoming-hwcs () "(-536) update from events.indieweb.org" (view diff)
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kaja.sknebel.net edited /Template:next-hwc (+0) "update next date from events.indieweb.org" (view diff)
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kaja.sknebel.net edited /User:Kaja.sknebel.net/upcoming-hwcs (+188) "update from events.indieweb.org" (view diff)
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sknebel should I switch those Kaja edits to be hidden, now the current code has run a while and seems to work just fine? ^^^
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aaronpk I don't mind seeing them, it's a nice reminder that it's working
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sknebel actually, I should make the edit messages more useful: make them a clickable link to the hwc list, and announce if it added anything or just cleaned out expired ones
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sknebel also: 70000 edits on the wiki apparently, since I think the diff= counter is global :D
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aaronpk Nice
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boffosocko.com created /events/2020-05-20-hwc-west-coast (+5169) "archive etherpad notes" (view diff)
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lahacker darn chrisaldrich i just submitted the event notes to the wiki and now i seem to have lost the hand edits i made
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lahacker sorry i didn't get to it last night
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lahacker i see now how everything translates over
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lahacker which will allow me to better take notes in etherpad during
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lahacker i didn't realize we're writing the wiki page during the chat....
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lahacker and now i see you did make edits and that they're much better than mine
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lahacker chrisaldrich++
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Loqi chrisaldrich has 10 karma in this channel over the last year (35 in all channels)
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lahacker !tell chrisaldrich thanks for archiving the HWC etherpad; i now see how the whole flow works
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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[schmarty] !tell jmac,gwg not sure if y'all discussed it after i left, but i went ahead and put another "third wednesday" IndieWeb Meetup NYC in the calendar for July 17th. i am proposing 6pm-7:30pm 'cuz i run out of steam after 90 mins 😅 https://events.indieweb.org/2020/06/online-indieweb-meetup-nyc-Vvg1d4IlQSKO
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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GWG [schmarty]: I'll bring more coal
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Loqi GWG: [schmarty] left you a message 4 minutes ago: not sure if y'all discussed it after i left, but i went ahead and put another "third wednesday" IndieWeb Meetup NYC in the calendar for July 17th. i am proposing 6pm-7:30pm 'cuz i run out of steam after 90 mins 😅 https://events.indieweb.org/2020/06/online-indieweb-meetup-nyc-Vvg1d4IlQSKO
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kaja.sknebel.net edited /User:Kaja.sknebel.net/upcoming-hwcs (+179) "update from events.indieweb.org" (view diff)
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GWG https://make.wordpress.org/updates/2020/05/21/wceu-2020-online-contributor-day-all-that-team-facilitators-and-experienced-contributors-need-to-know/
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GWG I wonder how this compares to how we might try hack day
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boffosocko.com edited /webring (+411) "/* Examples */ Weird Wide Webring" (view diff)
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boffosocko.com edited /microcast (+244) "/* Examples in the Wild */ John Naughton Quarantine Diary microcast" (view diff)
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[tantek] [schmarty] I've experienced the 90-min hosting burnout as well. I think 90 min is a good default for HWC Online
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[tantek] last night's HWC West Coast was energized enough (with enough people taking turns to brainstorm, provide examples) that we were still quite alert at 90 minutes and decided to extend to 8pm. I think that works better. 90 minutes scheduled, host's option to extend
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[schmarty] That sounds good to me!!