#meta 2021-01-20

2021-01-20 UTC
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[KevinMarks] I think Loqi mitigated by us intervening gets close
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jacky hmm true
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jacky I think it could be something like a service that listens to /chat-names for new names
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jacky and like send them a Webmention if it detects something like Microsub so it can properly send them a welcome notification
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jacky may or may not have considered this for Lwa's next form
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jacky that _could_ actually be the first viable spam vector for people in the community
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aaronpk i've been thinking about making Loqi send out random webmention comments like that for a while :)
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jacky o_O
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jacky tbh I think something like that can def have a bit of "omg this stuff works" for some
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jacky but lol, that'd require people to already have a bunch set up
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@EthanolPhantasm https://indieweb.org/site-deaths Site deaths are when sites go offline, taking content and permalinks with them, and breaking the web accordingly. Site deaths are one of the big reasons why you should own your own identity and content on the web. (twitter.com/_/status/1351729536384331776)
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[tantek] jacky, yeah, that would be something to encourage people who had already taken a few steps, to take next steps
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[tantek] one of the aspirations of IndieMark was to automate testing parts of it, congratulating folks on achieving a particular axis/region of a particular level, and then encourage them to try the next level or another axis/region
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@TrystonPerry Honestly, Mastadon is by far the best decentralized (federated) social network platform we have. I'm gonna look to start spending some time on it. https://indieweb.social/web/accounts/111049 (twitter.com/_/status/1351751187947687936)
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[chrisaldrich] "Best" by what definition? whose definition?
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aaronpk also "platform"
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[jeremycherfas] Also spelling.
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www.ciccarello.me created /User:107.214.234.190 (+511) "Create page" (view diff)
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aciccarello[m] I'm not sure how my username comes through with matrix
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aciccarello[m] Do I need to include the [m] in chat-names?
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www.ciccarello.me moved /User:107.214.234.190 to /User:Www.ciccarello.me "replace ip with domain"
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www.ciccarello.me edited /chat-names (+144) "Add aciccarello" (view diff)
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aciccarello[m] looks like it worked 😅
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@LegalTIC_ar #Tecnologia #Sociedad Existe un movimiento, tan minoritario como indómito, que busca volver a los buenos viejos tiempos de Internet, previo a la consolidación de la Web 2.0 de Twitter, Facebook y YouTube en 2010#Legaltic https://www.genbeta.com/web/indieweb-movimiento-que-busca-sacar-a-usuarios-jardines-amurallados-que-grandes-plataformas-online (twitter.com/_/status/1351864582340489218)
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@sonniesedge ↩️ I will be trying to find time to write about my setup! But for now you can see it at: https://github.com/whalecoiner/indieweb-express-site (twitter.com/_/status/1351914426409037830)
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jacky [tantek]: yup! I really do think that things like that can help today
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jacky especially since gamification is a disgustingly effective way to get people into things
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aaronpk "disgustingly effective" is a great description
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jacky haha, I got it from a book I was reading and it's stuck in my vocabulary
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[tantek] indeed
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tantek.com edited /follow (+347) "/* Indieweb examples */ split Past examples into Text and Past, update lists, add self to Text examples" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /follow (+108) "/* Tantek */ noted explicit POSSE of text follow" (view diff)
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Loqi [New Event] notiz.blog created "Jan 20, 2021 6:30pm ONLINE: Homebrew Website Club Karlsruhe" https://events.indieweb.org/cnv1JjxHiPGs
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@JamieTanna Thanks for those coming to #HomebrewWebsiteClub Nottingham - we've had a good session! (https://www.jvt.me/mf2/2021/01/xjndx/) (twitter.com/_/status/1351966308246679562)
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petermolnar evening, y'all, if HWC London on?
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reed dang it, I just found out about this now https://dapsi.ngi.eu ... I think it's interesting for people here
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Loqi Here’s your challenge The General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR) has the purpose of making significantly easier for citizens to have any data which is stored with one service provider transmitted directly to another provider. This means the Euro...
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Loqi [Event Updated] ohhelloana.blog updated "Jan 20, 2021 7:00pm Homebrew Website Club Europe/London" changed description https://events.indieweb.org/event/203/history/715/diff
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@uji_uadti IndieWeb, el movimiento que busca sacar a los usuarios de los "jardines amurallados" que son las grandes plataformas online vía @genbeta https://www.genbeta.com/web/indieweb-movimiento-que-busca-sacar-a-usuarios-jardines-amurallados-que-grandes-plataformas-online? (twitter.com/_/status/1351981588242948099)
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GWG By the way, gRegorLove and [schmarty]... happy 3 year anniversary of IWC Baltimore
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gRegorLove whoa
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gRegorLove that means 3 year anniversary for the name indiebookclub
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[tantek]1 chiragdi see also
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[tantek]1 what is different
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Loqi The indieweb is different from previous efforts like blogging, federation, decentralization, etc https://indieweb.org/different
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[schmarty] thanks GWG! 3 years, wow!
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[tantek]1 third item on the list there, drawing attention to the greater UX-centric focus of this community as compared to general OSS efforts
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loqi.me created /Agregore (+215) "prompted by [schmarty] and dfn added by [schmarty]" (view diff)
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martymcgui.re edited /Agregore (+1) "linkify dfn manually even tho it hurts" (view diff)
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loqi.me edited /Agregore (+27) "[schmarty] added "[[Dat]]" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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[schmarty] Gemini << The [[Agregore]] browser supports accessing content via the gemini:// protocol
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Loqi ok, I added "The [[Agregore]] browser supports accessing content via the gemini:// protocol" to the "See Also" section of /Gemini https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=74320&oldid=74276
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[schmarty] Agregore << [[Gemini]]
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Loqi ok, I added "[[Gemini]]" to the "See Also" section of /Agregore https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=74321&oldid=74319
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jbove [schmarty]: the update of the Brave blog post by Loqi seemed to have copied the whole page into the IPFS wiki entry: https://indieweb.org/IPFS
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[schmarty] jbove: Loqi is gonna Loqi 🤷‍♂️
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martymcgui.re edited /IPFS () "(-9246) /* See Also */ remove full content of Brave announcement article" (view diff)
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jbove schmarty++
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Loqi schmarty has 12 karma in this channel over the last year (51 in all channels)
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[schmarty] feeling like the MacWright "IPFS, Again" criticism is a liiiiiiiiittle too prominent given that IPFS actually finally standardized on ways to host web content and some browsers _are_ catching on.
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aaronpk there's that darn implied p-name workaround in post type discovery
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[schmarty] but, enh, it's still _mostly_ correct
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aaronpk wonder if i can remove that code finally
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martymcgui.re edited /IPFS (-1) "move jargon tag out of see also list" (view diff)
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jacky true
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jacky re: prominency
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gRegorLove [tantek]1, the "tweets on whitehouse.gov" is an interesting thought, since they'd all be archived on https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/ and many could be evidence
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gRegorLove oops, meant that for -> chat
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@OpenlabEc ¿Sabes lo que es la IndieWeb? Se trata de un movimiento que busca ofrecer una alternativa a la "web corporativa". Conoce más sobre él en este artículo: https://www.genbeta.com/web/indieweb-movimiento-que-busca-sacar-a-usuarios-jardines-amurallados-que-grandes-plataformas-online (twitter.com/_/status/1352023096383795203)
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