#meta 2021-10-15

2021-10-15 UTC
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[tantek] !rt https://twitter.com/npdoty/status/1448778234242424833
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Loqi Thanks! We need one more person to confirm the retweet!
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[tantek] good to share some references to our adjacent/overlapping projects / efforts which have A LOT of shared values
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[chrisaldrich] ratioed << https://twitter.com/GovParsonMO/status/1448697768311132160
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Loqi ok, I added "https://twitter.com/GovParsonMO/status/1448697768311132160" to the "See Also" section of /ratioed https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=77432&oldid=75371
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Loqi Just generated the first draft of this week's newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2021-10-15.html I'll generate a draft again tomorrow, so please add to it before then! https://indieweb.org/this-week#How_to
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@RobbiNespu This is a test. This post should automatically posted on twitter when bridgy crawl my website. (https://robbinespu.gitlab.io/indieweb/211015034814/) (twitter.com/_/status/1448935390971301916)
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[timothy_chambe] FYI this is mostly about Facebook, but Cory gives a very clear and powerful case for the Indieweb and POSSE --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyU2cZLFsik
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@AREdotNA_bot design - IndieWebCamp https://www.are.na/block/360588 (twitter.com/_/status/1449024754967580693)
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2021-10-15.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2021-10-15.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2021-10-15.html
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@kevinmarks ↩️ we did it with Indiewbe a couple of times too https://indieweb.org/SWAT0 (twitter.com/_/status/1449046146849157121)
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@kevinmarks yaya OStatus and statusnet wait, did SWAT get implemented by anything apart from Indieweb @evanpro? #bluesky (twitter.com/_/status/1449045448828891136)
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2021-10-15.html
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@Cambridgeport90 ↩️ even though I'm a IndieWeb member, I still think that AP has its place, and that eventually the two communities will be able to coexist and interoperate together. (twitter.com/_/status/1449056368493686788)
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2021-10-15.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2021-10-15.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2021-10-15.html
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www.jvt.me edited /rsvp (+175) "/* Calendar integration */" (view diff)
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capjamesg[d] jamietanna++
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Loqi jamietanna has 2 karma in this channel over the last year (12 in all channels)
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capjamesg[d] For the new calendar tool!
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2021-10-15.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2021-10-15.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2021-10-15.html
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[tantek] looking pretty good!
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2021-10-15.html
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@ChrisAldrich ↩️ A few of us have been keeping lists of some of these tools for thought at https://indieweb.org/commonplace_book#Platforms so one can test, try, or compare user interfaces for building one's own custom version. Contributions to this public wiki welcome. (http://boffosocko.com/2021/10/15/55797382/) (twitter.com/_/status/1449104144799727619)
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[chrisaldrich] commonplace book << https://twitter.com/CatoMinor3/status/1448551636905955329
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Loqi ok, I added "https://twitter.com/CatoMinor3/status/1448551636905955329" to the "See Also" section of /commonplace_book https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=77435&oldid=77434
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[chrisaldrich] GWG, was there a photo for Create Day? I though we did one?
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GWG [chrisaldrich]: I don't remember. Did I take it?
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[chrisaldrich] If there was one, you would have taken it I think. I remember someone wanted to have their default zoom avatar cropped out....
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[fluffy] I remember there was a photo because I noped out of it.
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[fluffy] Maybe tantek took it?
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[tantek] GWG took it yes
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[tantek] I remember the specific GWG prompting to please look at your camera 🙂
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[tantek] We should definitely get that in there, it was a sizable group!
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GWG I would have uploaded it immediately, so I didn't forget, are you saying I didn't?
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[tantek] GWG, it's ok you were distracted actually creating things 🙂
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2021-10-15.html
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Loqi yea!
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GWG One second
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GWG How's that?
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jamietanna Thanks capjamesg[d] !
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Loqi jamietanna: GWG left you a message on 2021-09-10 at 3:41am UTC: As prior attendees whose chatnames I remember, can you add your available dates for an IndieAuth followup session in October? https://indieweb.org/2021/Pop-ups/Sessions#IndieAuth_2
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jamietanna lol yep, it's tomorrow :D
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[tantek] [fluffy], just to confirm, is it ok that your alias and static cartoon thumbnail (with text "chill") is in the photo? Or would you prefer that the entire rectangle be blacked out? Or another option?
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[tantek] see: https://events.indieweb.org/2021/10/indieweb-create-day-ZKw5v2nFDu6f
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[fluffy] Yeah it’s fine to keep that in. I didn’t have any objection to my thumbnail, that was someone else.
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[tantek] :thumbsup::skin-tone-2:
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2021-10-15.html
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Loqi [Event Updated] boffosocko.com updated "Oct 9, 2021 9:00am IndieWeb Create Day" changed description "link to archived etherpad" https://events.indieweb.org/event/285/history/927/diff
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loqi.me created /quit_facebook (+27) "prompted by [tantek] and redirect added by [tantek]" (view diff)
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[tantek] delete facebook << 2021-10-12 Washington Post: [https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/10/12/leave-facebook-alternatives/ You’ve decided to quit Facebook. Here’s how to migrate your online life elsewhere.] / Saying you’re ready to quit is easy. Finding out where to go next is the hard part.
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Loqi ok, I added "2021-10-12 Washington Post: [https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/10/12/leave-facebook-alternatives/ You’ve decided to quit Facebook. Here’s how to migrate your online life elsewhere.] / Saying you’re ready to quit is easy. Finding out where to go next is the hard part." to the "See Also" section of /DeleteFacebook https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=77438&oldid=77397
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tantek.com edited /Facebook (-18) "/* Collects App Data Usage from Android Apps even when Not Installed */ shorten heading" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /DeleteFacebook (+225) "How to section, assuming folks starting finding this page and want next steps" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /DeleteFacebook (+705) "move most see also to an Articles section, cluster same media posts" (view diff)
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Loqi Just generated this week's newsletter! You still have a few minutes to make changes, and I'll re-generate it 10 minutes before it gets sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2021-10-15.html
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tantek.com edited /DeleteFacebook (+204) "shorten alt, link to image so clicking it shows it directly" (view diff)
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[tantek] Newsletter looking good. Well done with getting three events with photos in there folks! GWG++
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Loqi GWG has 26 karma in this channel over the last year (100 in all channels)
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[tantek] Unintentionally pushed the /DeleteFacebook page to the top edited article but seems topical for the past few weeks 🙂
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Loqi Generated the final version of the newsletter! This will be sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2021-10-15.html
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@jackyalcine I've been away from these - I need to get back (twitter.com/_/status/1449136859976814595)
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@indiewebcamp This week in the #indieweb https://indieweb.org/this-week/2021-10-15.html (twitter.com/_/status/1449136762698092547)
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thoughtstorms.info view philjones edited /commonplace_book (+658) "Added Cardigan Bay" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /code-of-conduct-examples (+386) "link IA version of CC0 CEPC, latest CEPC to W3C's own license" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /code-of-conduct (+72) "add "gratuitous or off-topic sexual (body part)" (fair use https://www.w3.org/Consortium/cepc/#unacceptablebehavior) to avoid; "text, names," per incident this past week in the informal [[discuss]] chat channel of alias "v...d...", chat seen by GWG,gRegor" (view diff)
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loqi.me created /mail_server (+47) "prompted by [tantek] and redirect added by [tantek]" (view diff)
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[tantek] GWG, gRegor, [Ana_Rodrigues], and anyone else (especially Organizers) please review: https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?title=code-of-conduct&type=revision&diff=77446&oldid=73072 per the informal chat incident this past week. That should be sufficient verbage for Organizers (and anyone) feel empowered to suggest/take corrective action should a similar incident occur.
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GWG I'm still embarrassed about that, my screen cut off the full username
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GWG Well, to be honest, not unhappy I didn't see it, but...
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[tantek] That's a good chat client limitation to be aware of
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[tantek] Either way, what's done is done, and gRegor acted quickly enough to hopefully limit damage.
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[tantek] GWG, the question is, are the above additions to the code of conduct sufficient to make you feel empowered to ask the person to change their name (if something happens like that in the future), AND are the additions to the code of conduct focused enough to avoid undesired silencing effects (false positives)? If you think so, feel free to explicitly +1 here in chat. If not (or if you have alternative suggestions), please say so 🙂