#meta 2021-11-04

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loqi.me
edited /Web_3.0 (+211) "aaronpk added "https://twitter.com/samuelgoto/status/1455986355268325376" to "See Also""
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kaja.sknebel.net
edited /User:Kaja.sknebel.net/upcoming-hwcs (+10) "update from events.indieweb.org"
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me.micahrl.com
created /User:Me.micahrl.com (+799) "Created page with "{{Infobox person |name = Micah R Ledbetter |url = https://me.micahrl.com |photo_url = https://me.micahrl.com/equation.png |summary = I like end-user agency and weird Internet...""
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me.micahrl.com
edited /chat-names (+89) "Add me.micahrl.com"
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me.micahrl.com
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Loqi
[github] Successfully deployed indieweb/indieauth to https://indieauth.net
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Loqi
[github] Successfully deployed indieweb/indieauth to https://indieauth.net
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Loqi
[github] Successfully deployed indieweb/indieauth to https://indieauth.net
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Loqi
[github] Successfully deployed indieweb/indieauth to https://indieauth.net
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Loqi
[New Event] david.shanske.com created "Nov 10, 2021 6:00pm Homebrew Website Club - The Americas" https://events.indieweb.org/Op4qhfPnnJtG
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kaja.sknebel.net
edited /User:Kaja.sknebel.net/upcoming-hwcs (+176) "update from events.indieweb.org"
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dym.sh
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dym.sh
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@InertiaPi
This post on the enclosure of the www leads right into the indieweb, an ecology of online making and relating that restores the utopian reality of digital worlds and, as a 2011 drama described by @zephoria shows, highlights that it's worth standing up for a federated web.
(twitter.com/_/status/1456184042555154432)
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loqi.me
created /NFT (+23) "prompted by [tantek] and redirect added by [tantek]"
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kaja.sknebel.net
edited /User:Kaja.sknebel.net/upcoming-hwcs (-186) "update from events.indieweb.org"
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kaja.sknebel.net
edited /Template:next-hwc (+0) "update next date from events.indieweb.org"
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@karlgroves
Attending @a11yclub, @btconf, or @IndieWebCampDE next week? Grab me for your very own “Your Accessibilty Overlay Doesn’t Work” t-shirt!
(twitter.com/_/status/1456276285131419654)
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[tantek]
what is an accessibility overlay
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "accessibility overlay" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "accessibility overlay is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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sknebel
snakeoil some companies sell that will magically make the website its added to accessible.
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sknebel
spoiler: that's not how it works
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[tantek]
wow seriously that's a thing. yikes
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capjamesg[d]
Do you have an example?
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capjamesg[d]
Oh I know what you mean now.
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sknebel
[arush] (https://www.customerservant.com/ ) has written about it a bunch
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[tantek]
ugh wow
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capjamesg[d]
" ...I finally managed to gain access to my @NameCheap account by blocking #AccessiBe in my Windows Hosts file. I should not need to do this to use the Internet. AccessiBe needs to AccessiBeGone "
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capjamesg[d]
From the "In their own words" of the link I sent.
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capjamesg[d]
*section of the ilnk I sent.
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@karlgroves
↩️ I’m giving them away. I’ll also have them at AHG and CSUN.
(twitter.com/_/status/1456287925537226753)
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[tantek]
I only brought IWC stickers
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aaronpk
i need to make my packing list for IWC today. I assume we want to have people able to join sessions so I'll bring that bluetooth mic we've used in the past?
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GWG
aaronpk: Tell me if you can't...I was planning to get up at 4am
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[tantek]
aaronpk, full remote participation for sessions would be amazing
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[tantek]
as in, if we can actually declare it to be a hybrid format
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[tantek]
I expect maybe we'll have two "rooms" for discussions?
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[tantek]
and we still need that IWC in a box kit that [Rose] prepared IIRC?
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[tantek]
anyone here via Matrix? bridge check
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@julien51
↩️ win? 1. For the early adopters, can we agree that the first iterations of flickr or delicious also did not have that many people? 2. I think this is the same as asking "this content couldn't be hosted on FB" when someone creates their own indieweb site.
(twitter.com/_/status/1456323004804304896)
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@simonw
@julien51 My criteria for evaluating new technology: - Enables things to be built that were impossible to build before - Or takes something possible that was previously difficult and makes it easy enough that more people do it - Benefits need to outweigh any negative externalities (new)
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capjamesg[d]
Will the event facilitate remote participation [tantek]?
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capjamesg[d]
If so, I might join in. I'll need to make my way to an in-person event at some point, maybe next year.
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[tantek]
capjamesg[d] that's the question, currently TBD depending on how much hardware aaronpk is able to bring 😂
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capjamesg[d]
No worries if that's not the case 🙂
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aaronpk
i should be able to make it happen
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petermolnar
it's incredible how delightful it is to load a twitter thread in nitter instead on twitter itself
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@moondeerdotblog
My Hugo theme is getting down to bare bones. Perhaps I could pull out and plugify the favicons or the IndieWeb Ring stuff.
(twitter.com/_/status/1456385464928247818)
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[tantek]
aaronpk++ awesome
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Loqi
aaronpk has 21 karma in this channel over the last year (116 in all channels)
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[tantek]
well add "Remote Participation" to the list of sections that need to be added to /201/Düsseldorf ! (in addition to Accessibility Statement, etc. as previously noted)
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aaronpk
hmm do i have enough space to bring all the pronoun pins with me..
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[tantek]
how many RSVPs do we have? is there a way to check Tito?
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aaronpk
i don't have access to it since it's on marc's tito
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[tantek]
is there some way to still do the RSVPs embed on https://2021.indieweb.org/dusseldorf ?
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Loqi
IndieWebCamp Düsseldorf
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[tantek]
or should we just highlight the Organizers like they have on a11yclub? (Scroll down, they call them "Hosts", which is a nice way of putting it) https://accessibility-club.org/event/accessibility-club-meetup-10-12
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aaronpk
I wanted to limit the number of places that RSVPs show up since that makes it look like you can or have to rsvp via webmention. But yeah "hosts" is a good idea
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aaronpk
I am now scrambling to pack tho since it is now 24h until my flight 😬
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[tantek]
I know that feeling. Pack first, wiki/github second
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[tantek]
we're a little stuck in the middle though because we are unable to show Tito RSVPs on events.indieweb page (yet).
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[tantek]
and we now have two places you can RSVP via Webmention (2021.indieweb and events.indieweb)
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aaronpk
i turned off showing webmention rsvps on 2021.indieweb.org/dusseldorf
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[tantek]
is anyone else at least tentatively interested in remote participation at IWC Düsseldorf? Could you indicate your interest by editing /2021/Düsseldorf accordingly? (if you're not sure how, check prior years for how folks have added themselves to a list etc.)