#meta 2021-11-19

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[tw2113_Slack_] yes, my domain is the center of my world 🙂
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[tantek]2 whoa did they include the image explicitly or was that in the Twitter card?
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[tantek]2 looks like explicit inclusion
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[tantek]2 I'll take that as positive feedback on including a diagram on the page 🙂
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[tantek]2 should I have signed the image with my domain? or @ t ?
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loqi.me edited /dislikes (+251) "[tantek]2 added "2021-11-11 NBC News: [https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/youtube-hiding-dislike-counts-effort-protect-content-creators-harassme-rcna5232 YouTube is hiding dislike counts in an effort to protect content creators from harassment]" to..." (view diff)
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Loqi Just generated the first draft of this week's newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2021-11-19.html I'll generate a draft again tomorrow, so please add to it before then! https://indieweb.org/this-week#How_to
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Loqi [New Event] calumryan.com created "Dec 8, 2021 7:00pm Festive Website Club Europe/London 🎄🎁" https://events.indieweb.org/y5ai405ZbhVl
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Loqi [Event Updated] calumryan.com updated "Dec 8, 2021 7:00pm Festive Website Club Europe/London 🎄🎁" changed meeting_url https://events.indieweb.org/event/317/history/970/diff
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2021-11-19.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2021-11-19.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2021-11-19.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2021-11-19.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2021-11-19.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2021-11-19.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2021-11-19.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2021-11-19.html
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[tantek]2 Aaronpk, any chance we can get the IWC Düsseldorf photo into the newsletter?
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aaronpk not sure how to hack it to do that
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[tantek]2 probably would be too much work to gt photo posts from IndieNews right?
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[tantek]2 I feel like we have somehow manually gotten photos into newsletters in the past but can't remember how right now
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2021-11-19.html
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aaronpk i could modify the recent events section to pull from last week's events too
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aaronpk (just change the date range)
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[tantek]2 that could work. and then we could mute last week's event images to avoid duping them?
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[tantek]2 the *other* last week's event images
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aaronpk hmm i don't have a good way of doing that either
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aaronpk it's too automated :)
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tantek.com uploaded /Special:Log/upload "uploaded "[[File:2021-315-iwc-dus-lunch.jpeg]]" https://indieweb.org/File:2021-315-iwc-dus-lunch.jpeg"
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aaronpk let's see what it looks like bumping back the date
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aaronpk 5 minutes until aaronpk check the next newsletter draft
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Loqi I added a countdown scheduled for 2021-11-19 11:30am PST (#6901)
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aaronpk [tantek] is there a reason you are adding the photos to the wiki and not the event page? it should be way easier adding it to the event
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tantek.com edited /2021/Düsseldorf (+52) "Photos, lunch" (view diff)
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[tantek]2 probably habit
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[tantek]2 and easier because I have a bookmark for the Upload URL
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[tantek]2 that's a lot less work on mobile than having to "hunt" for the place to upload it
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aaronpk yea but then you have to fiddle with wiki syntax and tiny edit box to add it to the wiki page
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[tantek]2 yes however someone else *can* do that in a collaborative context
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[tantek]2 minimizing time spent uploading is more important to get actual timely uploads
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aaronparecki.com edited /2021/Düsseldorf (+95) "/* Photos */" (view diff)
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[tantek]2 from events.indieweb.org it's 5 clicks to get to the page to upload the photo
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[tantek]2 from my IWC wiki Upload File bookmark, it's zero clicks to get to the page to upload a photo
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Loqi aaronpk check the next newsletter draft
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[tantek]2 uploaded
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[tantek]2 nicer thing is the events upload has the alt text box right there
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[tantek]2 anyway, 5 vs 0 is a pretty big difference, and for those 5 clicks, you have to know *where* to click (some are fairly hidden, like behind a menu)
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[tantek]2 so that's a pretty big reason
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tantek.com edited /2021/Düsseldorf (+33) "/* Photos */ encourage photos on the event page" (view diff)
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aaronpk i can work on reducing the number of clicks
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aaronpk but i would also argue that "0" isn't a fair assessment since that's definitely a "power user" feature
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aaronpk the normal people version of that is 1 click since there's at least the upload file link at the bottom of the wiki home page
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aaronpk now why didn't that work
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2021-11-19.html
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aaronpk there we go, that's reasonable
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aaronpk 4 hours until aaronpk undo the hack for the newsletter
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Loqi I added a countdown scheduled for 2021-11-19 3:57pm PST (#6902)
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2021-11-19.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2021-11-19.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2021-11-19.html
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[tantek]2 aaronpk++ looks good!
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Loqi aaronpk has 25 karma in this channel over the last year (117 in all channels)
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Loqi Just generated this week's newsletter! You still have a few minutes to make changes, and I'll re-generate it 10 minutes before it gets sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2021-11-19.html
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Loqi Generated the final version of the newsletter! This will be sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2021-11-19.html
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@indiewebcamp This week in the #indieweb https://indieweb.org/this-week/2021-11-19.html (twitter.com/_/status/1461820342381387776)
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Loqi aaronpk undo the hack for the newsletter
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Loqi Countdown set by aaronpk on 2021-11-19 at 11:57am PST