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@anildash ↩️ I’m on there, but I do wish Ghost had better fediverse & indieweb support; I spent some time trying to hack that together but it’s a mess. But anyway, @anildash@mastodon.cloud for now. (twitter.com/_/status/1503885120553558016)
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@a11yclub ↩️ @nice2meatu @marcthiele @jkphl @indiewebcamp Damit ist (fast) alles gesagt. a11yclub wird wieder Hybrid-Livestream… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1503832881239576581 (twitter.com/_/status/1503832881239576581)
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@anildash ↩️ No, it’s just the tool I’m using right now. Haven’t found anything that centers indieweb and fediverse needs. (twitter.com/_/status/1503887917969817606)
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[tantek] The article at the top of that thread is worth reading, very IndieWeb mindset: https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/15/22977857/wordpress-tumblr-simplenote-internet-automattic-matt-mullenweg-interview
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@kevinmarks ↩️ we tried a while back -could always try again https://indieweb.org/Ghost#Rejected_microformats2_markup_in_default_theme (twitter.com/_/status/1503898856848859139)
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@fluffy New post: Notes: You Should Check Out the Indie Web https://beesbuzz.biz/blog/chatter/4283-You-Should-Check-Out-the-Indie-Web #Indieweb #Dweb #Web3 #NFT (twitter.com/_/status/1503994871815806976)
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@titanypw 如何成為獨立網路的公民. 初探 IndieWeb… | by wastemobile | Mar, 2022 | Medium https://medium.com/@wastemobile/%E5%A6%82%E4%BD%95%E6%88%90%E7%82%BA%E7%8D%A8%E7%AB%8B%E7%B6%B2%E8%B7%AF%E7%9A%84%E5%85%AC%E6%B0%91-a855f011b15d (twitter.com/_/status/1504005006034628614)
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@atarkowski Hello #indieweb. And new school info-wizards should check out #rss too. It's like a news feed that works for you, and not the platform. (twitter.com/_/status/1504068466055290880)
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aaronpk Coffee cups instead of name tag colors? https://twitter.com/jordanmapes/status/1503760204671893510 😛
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@jordanmapes i would simply not drink coffee https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FN5t5-cXEAMn6Mf.jpg (twitter.com/_/status/1503760204671893510)
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capjamesg[d] Oh dear. I don't like that idea.
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jacky should we put a notice on /indiemark to not hold too strongly to it?
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sknebel yes
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aaronpk +1
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aaronpk or maybe like "this is one way to think about what features to add to your site"
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jacky okay
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jacky is there a format for that? like wiki markup?
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jacky I'm looking for things on some pages (Webmention-developer, etc) but don't see any
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sknebel hm, dont think we have a good template
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sknebel just make a yellow div ... 🙈
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jacky lol okay
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aaronpk i think that's what the other ones have done heh
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aaronpk unless there's a template for those
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aaronpk ah yeah here https://indieweb.org/Template:warning
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jacky perfect
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jacky.wtf edited /IndieMark (+370) "add note about using indiemark as a north star" (view diff)
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[tantek] jacky++ yeah IndieMark needs major updating as our thoughts on guidance beyond getting started have evolved
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[tantek] IndieMark << to-do: rewrite at least the intro to direct folks first to [[getting started]], and then using the [[principles]]. then rewrite the levels to be based on the principles.
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Loqi ok, I added "to-do: rewrite at least the intro to direct folks first to [[getting started]], and then using the [[principles]]. then rewrite the levels to be based on the principles." to the "See Also" section of /IndieMark https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=80137&oldid=80135
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sknebel "ideas of things you can add to your site, by topic, in a vague order" - can someone find a good title that expresses that as a replacement? :D
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sknebel i.e. I think it makes sense to have some sort of "this is one topic, here are steps of rising complexity in that topic" grouping as we have on indiemark
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sknebel but I still dislike the "scoring" aspect of it
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sknebel (especially because often "I dont need/want that" is fine, there shouldnt be an implication that "higher==better")
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sknebel (or at least not "strictly equals better"
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[tantek] sknebel, I think there are people that are motivated by a "scoring" and there are people who are not, so rather than pick one or the other, we should see if we can accomodate both, e.g. have a scoring only for folks that want it, so don't focus on it
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sknebel fair. switch at the top "enable/disable numbers on <OL> tags" ;)
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[tantek] lol
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GWG Missed all of this..saw indiemark in main
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[tantek] IndieMark << to-do: consider re-orienting as a set of areas, e.g. existing axes, rather than levels, where you can improve your site if you wish, and in each of those axes, provide different options that people here have implemented, perhaps loosely ordered by steps people took. move levels to lower section
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Loqi ok, I added "to-do: consider re-orienting as a set of areas, e.g. existing axes, rather than levels, where you can improve your site if you wish, and in each of those axes, provide different options that people here have implemented, perhaps loosely ordered by steps people took. move levels to lower section" to the "See Also" section of /IndieMark https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=80138&oldid=80137
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GWG [tantek]: HWC topic maybe or pop-up?
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[tantek] it's too meta to really have folks on for a pop-up IMO. better as an IWC session where there are other sessions people can go to if they don't care about it
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jacky that's an idea
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jacky would even allow for people to post longer form thoughts on the topic too
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[tantek] GWG how about HWC Europe? https://events.indieweb.org/2022/03/homebrew-website-club-europe-london-JGmRTeFke6IO
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GWG [tantek]: Work, alas.
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[tantek] this week is a "few meetings week" at work so I may be able to make it to HWC EU. also it's DST limbo week between US in DST and EU/UK in ST so I think that means noon pacific, 3pm eastern for US?
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GWG [tantek]: Yes. Tomorrow and Friday, all of my European counterparts are taking off actually. But they are all there today
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[tantek] Sarajaksa++ welcome! (good to see you since IWC DUS last November!)
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capjamesg[d] Sarajaksa++
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capjamesg[d] Congrats on getting your profile page set up!
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[jeremycherfas] [sknebel] Does the phrase “Pick ‘n’ Mix” have any resonance for you? Or for any non-Brits?
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sknebel [jeremycherfas]: not entirely confident answer: its a wall of sweets in a shop you pick your own mix of favorites from?
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[tantek] I think there's something similar at LEGO stores
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sknebel yeah, the concept generalizes I guess
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sknebel but my association is "bag of pick n mix" referring to sweets
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[tantek] e.g. https://www.lego.com/en-pt/aboutus/news/2019/july/ready-steady-build-the-first-lego-stores-are-coming-to-the-netherlands-in-time-for-christmas/
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[tantek] https://www.lego.com/cdn/cs/aboutus/assets/blt7672f1882935ecb4/webPickABrickLEGOStoreLondonEMBARGO171116CopyrightLEGO.jpg
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[tantek] Oooh I like Pick & Build! We could even us that 😂
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[tantek] use* that
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jacky finally feeling some balance in my work life now so I think I could even play with non-EST HWCs soon
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@LukasRosenstock I'm wondering why the @nytimes wrote an article covering Twitter's @bluesky project without mentioning any existing efforts for social web decentralization (e.g., @joinmastodon / #ActivityPub / #Fediverse or the #IndieWeb) by name: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/02/technology/twitter-platform-rethink.html (twitter.com/_/status/1504171143586095113)
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[tantek] because 1) Twitter has PR people and those projects don't, and 2) Bluesky's "report" didn't bother mentioning IndieWeb at all despite many of the folks who worked on it being well aware of the IndieWeb community, efforts, standards for many years
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gRegor Anyone else joining for HWC Pacific tonight? https://events.indieweb.org/2022/03/homebrew-website-club-pacific-zNW0jWBDveOD
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jacky you know what
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jacky I'm going to
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jacky I need to try this time lol
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gRegor \o/
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jacky but _first_, set up a proper reply context for events (lol)
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gRegor All reply contexts welcome, haha
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[tantek] gRegor I'll be there, hoping to chat about /IndieMark
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GWG I'll be there after my other obligation
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