#meta 2022-04-11
2022-04-11 UTC
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@FalconSensei Anyone knows an alternative to http://webmention.app for sending webmentions? This one doesn't seem to work properly most of the time, and it's not updated since 2020 :/ #ssg #webmention #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/1513327334895497218)
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Loqi [[Comparison_of_software_and_protocols_for_distributed_social_networking]] https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Comparison_of_software_and_protocols_for_distributed_social_networking&diff=1082049589&oldid=prev Ser Amantio di Nicolao: /* top */add short description
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capjamesg[d] Oh no! There is an issue with the bridge tracydurnell[d]?
# capjamesg[d] I didn't know that.
# capjamesg[d] GWG "I might actually be able to come to that" The Europe HWC meeting? If so, I shall see you there!
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@novatrend_ch Neu im Blog: Ein kostenloses Social Media Feedback Tool mit #Bridgy, #Webmention und #WordPress https://blog.novatrend.ch/?p=7278 ^hg
#indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/1513411604486012930)
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petermolnar yes, there are issues with the discord bridge
# petermolnar I even added a warning to the wiki :(
# petermolnar I'm going to try to switch to matterbridge to see if that works
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# petermolnar test with matterbridge (IRC -> Discord) #1
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hoenir hoenir[irc] test with matterbridge (Discord -> IRC) #1
# petermolnar test with matterbridge (IRC -> Discord) #2
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# petermolnar test with matterbridge (IRC -> Discord) #3
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# petermolnar test with matterbridge (IRC -> Discord) #4
# hoenir hoenir[discord] test with matterbridge (Discord -> IRC) #2
# petermolnar ok, this is the best I can do for now :(
# hoenir <hoenir[discord]> test with matterbridge (Discord -> IRC) #3
# hoenir <hoenir[d]> test with matterbridge (Discord -> IRC) #4
# petermolnar it works, but all messages will be relayed through the bot
# petermolnar on the discord side it looks fine, but on the IRC side the nice nicks are usually the source of the problem
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# petermolnar I'll certainly return to that one if that weird TLS issue gets solved somehow but currently I don't have the capacity to debug it myself
# petermolnar if anyone wants to fix it: https://github.com/qaisjp/go-discord-irc
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# petermolnar libera support said there's nothing like that on their side
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# Loqi [Event Updated] marksuth.dev updated "Apr 20, 2022 7:00pm Homebrew Website Club Europe/London" changed description "Correct etherpad url" https://events.indieweb.org/event/358/history/1052/diff
# hoenir <capjamesg[d]> Can someone assist in fixing the links in this document: https://indieweb.org/2012/Simple_Indie_Web_Messaging_Stack
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@lightcoin I like the indieweb POSSE tactic: post on own site, syndicate elsewhere. I always post long-form on my own site first, then eventually post to Medium later. Will eventually figure out a good POSSE workflow for microblogging, too. (twitter.com/_/status/1513527154188951558)
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# [tantek]1 same tbh
# [tantek]1 capjamesg[d], the links seem fine on that page?
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tantek.com edited /2012/Notes (+27) "unlink/nowiki etherpad.mozilla but leave for historical purposes of how we used etherpad back then" (view diff)
# tantek.com edited /2014/Introductions (+17) "unlink/nowiki etherpad.mozilla but leave for historical purposes of how we used etherpad back then" (view diff)
# tantek.com edited /2014/Cambridge/Introductions (+17) "unlink/nowiki etherpad.mozilla but leave for historical purposes of how we used etherpad back then" (view diff)
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# tantek.com edited /2014/UK/Introductions (+17) "unlink/nowiki etherpad.mozilla but leave for historical purposes of how we used etherpad back then" (view diff)
# tantek.com edited /2014/UK/Scheduling (+35) "unlink/nowiki etherpad.mozilla but leave for historical purposes of how we used etherpad back then" (view diff)
# petermolnar aaronpk: I'll see what I can do
# [tantek]1 ^ aaronpk, my approach for keeping the historical information while unlinking due to dead links
# [tantek]1 who is hoenir
# [tantek]1 who is Loqi?
# Loqi Loqi is a friendly and useful bot/digital therapist present in the IndieWeb discussion channels https://indieweb.org/User:Loqi.me
# [tantek]1 yeah, as capturing how we did things back then. there's an element of building on and using existing services before building / installing / setting up your own that is exemplified there.
# [tantek]1 kinda like we used to depend on OpenID for wiki login before we switched it all over to IndieAuth
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# petermolnar who is iwc-discord?
# petermolnar k, how do I add this?
# [tantek]1 who is IWSlackGateway?
# iwc-discord <hoenir[d]> ping
# Loqi Aaron Parecki is the co-founder of IndieWebCamp https://indieweb.org/User:Aaronparecki.com
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aaronpk add to /chat-names
# iwc-discord <iwc-irc[d]> ping
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# IWDiscordGateway <iwc-irc[d]> should be better now, but I'll need to change the nick on the discord side as well
# IWDiscordGateway <iwc-irc> one more test line
# petermolnar ok, so the question is how to make the <nick> bit nicer or more popping
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aaronparecki.com created /User:IWSlackGateway (+249) "Created page with "{{Infobox person |name = IWSlackGateway |summary = IWSlackGateway is a bot that mirrors messages from IRC to the IndieWeb Slack |url = https://github.com/aaronpk/Slack-IRC-Gat..."" (view diff)
# aaronparecki.com moved /User:IWSlackGateway to /User:Iwslackgateway "MW caps"
# Loqi IWSlackGateway is a bot that mirrors messages from IRC to the IndieWeb Slack https://indieweb.org/User:Iwslackgateway
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tracydurnell petermolnar++ thanks for troubleshooting discord
# tracydurnell lost in the discord ether last week -- at HWC last week @lahacker and I were discussing that there might be a place for a happy medium between the informality of HWC and intensity of a full IndieWebCamp
# tracydurnell one idea could be designating the first HWC of the month as "the one to come to if you're going to come to one"
# tracydurnell and potentially saving up some ideas for discussion topics that would benefit from more of a quorum (in the etherpad? in the event listing?), and anyone who shows up votes on which topics to talk about, more like an IndieWeb camp
# tracydurnell we were thinking it was different from the pop up sessions because the topic's picked in advance and they're longer devoted to a deeper dive on one topic
# tracydurnell whereas a slightly more formal (?) HWC might still cover multiple topics yet slightly less freeform than a typical HWC?
# tracydurnell another approach could be picking something from the "to do list" and devoting a little discussion time to thinking them through, like a few weeks back we talked through ways to visually represent IndieMark and ways to refresh or update the concept
# tracydurnell which is more popup like ;)
# tracydurnell which idea did you like jacky?
# tracydurnell ooh, guiding compass, I like it ;)
# tracydurnell yeah we were thinking it would still work with the same variety of usual activities / topics -- discussions, demos, etc -- while adding a little extra intentionality / purpose?
# tracydurnell and potentially some discussion could zoom out to big picture 'state of the web' topics
# tracydurnell it's still spring for a few months ;)
# tracydurnell good idea on the time overlap :)
# tracydurnell I think it'd be fun to do a weekend HWC that worked across more timezones
# tracydurnell (it does seem like Wednesdays are a popular night for activities)
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angelo i was originally thinking that there might be an anxiety about showing up because you don't know what to expect in terms of activity.. even a simple "these people are actually physically in the zoom right now" would move in that direction but being able to raise your expectations and plan ahead for the "big one" would go one step further
# tracydurnell haha totally
# tracydurnell and being able to lurk for a few meetings would probably make some people feel more comfortable :)
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# tracydurnell makes sense to me -- we could do a trial run in May and see whether more advance coordination seemed needed?
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# tracydurnell yeah
# tracydurnell we could always come up with a brilliant name in the future and just call it something marginally different like "May HWC" or "Monthly HWC" to start?
# [tantek]1 guidingcompass++
# IWDiscordGateway <capjamesg> I would love a weekend HWC!
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# tracydurnell think we could just pick a weekend for a HWC and slap it on the calendar, or need to do more coordination than that? ;)
# tracydurnell like, May 14 or 15? ;)
# angelo when it comes to weekends i believe the assumption is that we have more leeway to decide time of day. to maximize timezone compatibility we've repeatedly settled on ~9a PST for popups.. which is mid-morning for us on the west coast of US, early afternoon for east coast and early evening for european zones.
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# [tantek]1 s/PST/Pacific Time
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[jeremycherfas] I'm also up for a weekend HWC.
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# [tantek]1 still trying to make an IWC DUS happen 4/30-5/1
# [tantek]1 contextually I should say 30/4-1/5 for those dates obv
# [tantek]1 might be capacity of "only" 10-20 with 2-3 rooms (incl "main room")
# [tantek]1 that's the latest from Marc
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