#meta 2022-05-12

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GWG angelo: Plane just landed, so should be back in time.
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Loqi Scott_Jack has 1 karma over the last year
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chrisaldrich Scott_Jack++ Those are great. Here's the whole series I did last in late 2020: https://boffosocko.com/2020/12/01/indieweb-advertising-cards/
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Loqi [Chris Aldrich] IndieWeb Inspirational Cards
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@ViRAms IndieWeb. That's the way. First step. (twitter.com/_/status/1524548476062900224)
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GWG angelo: You coming?
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gRegor I'll be on in about 10 minutes
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GWG gRegor: Great!!
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GWG You are still my favorite gRegor
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kaja.sknebel.net edited /User:Kaja.sknebel.net/upcoming-hwcs (+10) "update from events.indieweb.org" (view diff)
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gRegor out of how many?
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GWG You beat out Mendel.
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GWG [KevinMarks], [tantek], aaronpk: Do you have any photos from the September 6, 2019 XOXO IndieWeb Meetup? We have someone in HWC who was there. curious if they are in the photos. Nothing posted to the wiki or your sites
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Loqi [New Event] david.shanske.com created "May 18, 2022 6:00pm Homebrew Website Club - Pacific" https://events.indieweb.org/JGTF0RmSRvLF
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kaja.sknebel.net edited /User:Kaja.sknebel.net/upcoming-hwcs (+166) "update from events.indieweb.org" (view diff)
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microblog.ducamp.me edited /User:Christopheducamp.com (+476) "/* Projects 2022 */" (view diff)
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microblog.ducamp.me edited /User:Christopheducamp.com (+85) "/* Family domain */ MaxDonald Project" (view diff)
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microblog.ducamp.me edited /User:Christopheducamp.com (+46) "/* MeetP.life */" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com created /events/2022-05-04-hwc-pacific (+2738) "archive etherpad" (view diff)
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[tantek] what is XOXO
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Loqi XOXO (hashtag: #xoxofest) is an annual conference in Portland, Oregon that started in 2012, took a break in 2017, and continued in 2018 https://indieweb.org/XOXO
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[tantek] GWG ^ whole entry on 2019 there
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GWG The photo section is blank, that's why I asked
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GWG For 2019 at least
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aaronpk IIRC that meetup ended up being kinda huge
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aaronpk we took over a bunch of tables
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aaronpk i found a picture on my phone!
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aaronparecki.com uploaded /Special:Log/upload "uploaded "[[File:2019-09-06-xoxo-indieweb-meetup.jpg]]" https://indieweb.org/File:2019-09-06-xoxo-indieweb-meetup.jpg"
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aaronpk it's not terribly good
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aaronparecki.com edited /events/2019-09-06-xoxo-indieweb (+224) (view diff)
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microblog.ducamp.me edited /User:Christopheducamp.com (+29) "/* MeetP.life */ micropub : offering cruise from Brighton to Andy Bell with rock n' roll (chronodreaming)" (view diff)
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@rom RT @obsolete29@indieweb.social I wish there were a search engine, complete with their own infrastructure, and not just something built on bing/google, that was run by a non-profit. The model I'm thinking of is Wikipedia. Se… https://indieweb.social/@obsolete29/108288465060702484 (twitter.com/_/status/1524696747121037314)
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minutestomidnight.co.uk edited /Webmention (+446) "Added m2m" (view diff)
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@disrupt_learn "Independently-hosted web publishing". A new entry by @villaronrubia @vmarinj in the @PolicyR "Glossary of decentralised technosocial systems” https://policyreview.info/glossary/independently-hosted-web-publishing #webpublishing #ownership #decentralisation #dooo #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/1524715569970307073)
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kaja.sknebel.net edited /User:Kaja.sknebel.net/upcoming-hwcs (-176) "update from events.indieweb.org" (view diff)
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kaja.sknebel.net edited /Template:next-hwc (+0) "update next date from events.indieweb.org" (view diff)
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@Shoq LISTEN: #Mastodon is only one part of a larger @indiewebcamp movement. It's a decentralized social media model that puts much less control of our content (and lives) in the hands of a few corporations. This @NewYorker article from 2019 explains: https://www.newyorker.com/tech/annals-of-technology/can-indie-social-media-save-us (twitter.com/_/status/1524750758565990401)
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[tantek] ^ that New Yorker article that keeps giving 🙂
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gRegor I spy a [Joe_Crawford] https://indieweb.org/events/2019-09-06-xoxo-indieweb
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[Joe_Crawford] [gRegorLove] 2019 was rad. https://www.instagram.com/p/B2F2BfPnV6W/
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GWG I'm still finding 2020 to be longer than ever
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sknebel !march
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Kaja It's March 803, 2020 (UTC)
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[tantek] GWG, there may be more photos in the Swarm check-ins for that event 👀
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Loqi [New Event] calumryan.com created "May 18, 2022 7:00pm Homebrew Website Club Europe/London" https://events.indieweb.org/jjaHqVnWHq1J
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Loqi [Event Updated] calumryan.com updated "May 18, 2022 7:00pm Homebrew Website Club Europe/London" changed description https://events.indieweb.org/event/371/history/1080/diff
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kaja.sknebel.net edited /User:Kaja.sknebel.net/upcoming-hwcs (+173) "update from events.indieweb.org" (view diff)
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gRegor I would love if things ever got safe enough to have another xoxo
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gregorlove.com created /events/2022-05-11-hwc-pacific (+1295) "archive etherpad" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /Template:Homebrew_Website_Club (+91) "+2022-05-11" (view diff)
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gRegor note to self: use schmarty's cat as background next HWC https://events.indieweb.org/2022/05/homebrew-website-club-pacific-JlqSDTFibfiy
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sknebel :D
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IWDiscordGateway <capjamesg> 🤣
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loqi.me created /mew (+119) "prompted by [tantek] and dfn added by [tantek]" (view diff)
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laker.tech edited /User:Laker.tech (-117) "add picture, delete sparkline cause i dont have time to fix it rn" (view diff)
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[tantek] btw if anyone wants to delete /mew because it's not IndieWeb enough or /lulz enough, please feel free.
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IWDiscordGateway <capjamesg> lulz << /mew maybe?
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Loqi Sorry, I couldn't find a page named "<capjamesg> lulz" or similar
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IWDiscordGateway <capjamesg> I knew Loqi would do that.
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IWDiscordGateway <capjamesg> I did mean that as a question.
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loqi.me edited /mew (+103) "[tantek] added "use-case: "the # of times in a day I type https://quill.p3k.io/mew instead of /new"" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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sknebel lulz << [[mew]]
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Loqi ok, I added "[[mew]]" to the "See Also" section of /lulz https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=81398&oldid=78188
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[tantek] what is 😹
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "😹" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "😹 is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[tantek] 😹 is /mew
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Loqi ok
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loqi.me created /😹 (+16) "prompted by [tantek] and redirect added by [tantek]" (view diff)
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[tantek] GWG, I realize this is ancient history at this point, however do you remember if we have recordings for the other sessions in https://indieweb.org/2019/Berlin/Schedule ? Like did we record them all and they're stuck somewhere?
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[tantek] I realize part of that may be Zoom archives somewhere
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GWG [tantek]: If they exist, they'd be on my server
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GWG Zoom makes you delete them after a while. I keep backups
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GWG The ones there are linked from YouTube
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GWG Unless [aaronpk] was there...hmmm... I'll check
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GWG Wait, I did the upload for Berlin2
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GWG These show YouTube...so..hmm...
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GWG We streamed them live, according to this
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@Shoq You have to spend some time on the indieweb to recall what it was like when normal smart people on social media actually talked about art. science, ideas, and progress. Twitter created the rise of the “brands,” and guess what? They’ve monetized the collapse of our society (twitter.com/_/status/1524875593493389312)
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[tantek] oof, "monetized the collapse of our society" has a sharp cut to it
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loqi.me created /📉 (+27) "prompted by [tantek] and redirect added by [tantek]" (view diff)
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@rossk Sounds cool: "PURR addresses the issues of maintenance, inspectability, and portability when building for the Long Web. " https://indieweb.org/PURR Click through to the blog post about the idea: "this domain is for sale!" Domain ownership is probably the indieweb's achilles heel (twitter.com/_/status/1524879581848784897)
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jacky about to reply to that
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jacky but obvs kindly
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jacky.wtf edited /PURR (+147) "/* Background */ add archive link" (view diff)
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@jackyalcine ↩️ Domains are a factor of the Web, and anything using it will fall subject to its expiry (even these "dApps"). That said, I just added an archive link to https://indieweb.org/PURR#Background (https://jacky.wtf/2022/5/3yZ-) (twitter.com/_/status/1524882198200999948)
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[KevinMarks] mew << /PURR
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Loqi ok, I added "[[PURR]]" to the "See Also" section of /mew https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=81403&oldid=81399
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[tantek] [KevinMarks] lol
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[tantek] jacky++ for that kind reply and link repair
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Loqi jacky has 7 karma in this channel over the last year (59 in all channels)
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[tantek] [KevinMarks]++ for taking the opportunity to demonstrate the principle in practice! https://twitter.com/kevinmarks/status/1524884771306106880
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Loqi [KevinMarks] has 8 karma in this channel over the last year (50 in all channels)
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@kevinmarks @jackyalcine @rossk Also, because of the PURR principle we can still extract structured data from that archive page - not something that would work if it were client side rendered from an api. http://www.unmung.com/mf2?url=https%3A%2F%2Fweb.archive.org%2Fweb%2F20190405153730%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fnotenoughneon.com%2F2016%2F5%2F29%2Fpurl-a-portable-content-store&html=&pretty=on (twitter.com/_/status/1524884771306106880)
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@quiplash A very cool map of Reddit! You can zoom in and out, and explore subReddits. https://indieweb.social/@elgg/108291211729276238 (twitter.com/_/status/1524892817260093441)
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[tantek] LOOOL: https://indieweb.social/@elgg — yo dawg I heard you like alternative social platforms so I created an account for an alternative social platform on this other alternative social platform
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[tantek] ^ cc: [benatwork]
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Loqi Platform for Social Apps
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[benatwork] Who did this
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[tantek] is that a longer form of Who dis?
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[benatwork] I swear that platform will not die
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[benatwork] OK so someone took Elgg, made a service out of it, and then made a profile for that service
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[benatwork] Credit to them, tbh!
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