#meta 2022-07-27

2022-07-27 UTC
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[tantek]
There you are again [schmarty]
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[schmarty]
Same post / different instance?
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[tantek]
oh it's actually a different video
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[tantek]
Recording TWITIAE vs Script writing for TWITIAE
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[schmarty]
lol o yeah. They are a pair! 😅
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GWG
I miss TWITIAE
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Loqi
misses TWITIAE too
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[schmarty]
misses TWITIAE too
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[tantek]
I miss my home page mini photo grid 😞
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[schmarty]
tantek: could it make a comeback?
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[tantek]
[schmarty] I don't know why it stopped working. The code seems to roughly execute and nothing is generated. I've tried a couple of times to dive into debugging it and ran out of time before I have to *other important thing*. And each time I have to restart the whole mental context of debugging it
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[schmarty]
"seems execute and nothing is generated" bugs are upsetting bugs to be sure
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[schmarty]
oop cut too many words from that snippet ha
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[tantek]
I mean the "good" thing is that whatever caused it to start "failing" didn't take down my whole site.
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[schmarty]
resilience!
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@fluffy
New post: fluffy rambles: VRChat continued https://beesbuzz.biz/blog/10109-VRChat-continued #VRChat #VR #Indieweb
(twitter.com/_/status/1552192567130963968)
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@derhess
↩️ “If it’s not curlable, it’s not on the web.” by @t I love that quote and one of the most important design principles of @IndieWebCampDE APIs https://twitter.com/t/status/795311975509164032
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@DeEgge
I’m writing this post in the hopes it will be published on Twitter and Mastodon via http://brid.gy #indieweb (https://chringel.dev/2022/07/27/1420/)
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[tantek]
before I add it to /VR, I'm curious if you ([fluffy]) have had any experience with or any opinions of Hubs?
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[tantek]
would it be too meta-funny to expand the scope of the #indieweb-meta channel to cover all things VR / metaverse in addition?
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[fluffy]
I’d forgotten about hubs! Definitely worth considering as prior art, please do add it.
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[fluffy]
man I really need to remember how the hell to write wiki markup 😛
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@fluffy
Because of the state of affairs in the #VR space (VRChat et al), it seems like a good opportunity to build something #IndieWeb-like instead. I've started a brainstorming page at https://indieweb.org/VR for anyone who's interested in making a *true* metaverse.
(twitter.com/_/status/1552338637974425600)
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[tantek]
I can help with that
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beesbuzz.biz
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[tantek]
[fluffy]++ more important to get the content quickly added than worry about wiki markup details. Some of us are happy to help fix-up such editorial things to share the labor
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Loqi
[fluffy] has 4 karma in this channel over the last year (31 in all channels)
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tantek.com
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beesbuzz.biz
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beesbuzz.biz
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@fluffy
↩️ If anyone wants to join in on the brainstorming (and please do!), the indieweb wiki is open to all. Logging in requires having an IndieAuth-enabled identity, which can be as simple as adding a couple of lines of HTML to a webpage you control.
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beesbuzz.biz
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Loqi
[Event Updated] marksuth.dev updated "Jul 27, 2022 7:00pm Homebrew Website Club Europe/London" changed description "add etherpad link" https://events.indieweb.org/event/388/history/1126/diff
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@fluffy
↩️ There have been plenty of "open source" social VR things, but most of them are either tied to crypto or their underlying platforms have been shut down and made unavailable. Like with IndieWeb, we need to focus on people+protocols, not platforms. Building blocks, not skyscrapers.
(twitter.com/_/status/1552352664591015941)
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kaja.sknebel.net
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gRegor
Got an email someone used a recovery code on the Zoom account
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[tantek]
Hubs is neither tied to crypto nor shut down!
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gRegor
Should probably clarify the TOTP above the Recovery Code list should be used. Wasn't immediatly obvious it's a TOTP since it's not labeled, but there is a little countdown timer beside it
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[schmarty]
gRegor: probably for HWC London happening now-ish?
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gRegor
Yeah, IP is UK so nothing bad. Just noting it
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[fluffy]
[tantek] I said “most” 😛
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@fluffy
↩️ For that matter, Hubs + IndieWeb identity/publish protocols + full-body avatars would probably get us VERY close.
(twitter.com/_/status/1552359405806448640)
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gRegor
what is Hubs
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "Hubs" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "Hubs is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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aaronpk
maybe i should just remove the one-time codes from that
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@fluffy
↩️ Like. As an individual publisher on the IndieWeb, I have complete control over who's allowed to post comments on my page and which response links I float to users. My blog is my own personal space that I manage as I see fit. That is the model I am advocating here.
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@fluffy
↩️ "Instance" in this case isn't like fediverse instance, but like indieweb blog. In this specific case I was following from VRChat terminology. Fediverse has an awful authority model and I am in no way advocating for replicating that.
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[Jamie_Tanna]
:crossed_fingers::skin-tone-4: This picks up my new /chat-names
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[tantek]
jamietanna, you don't need a version with the [ ]
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jamietanna
Ah, so I just need Jamie_Tanna?
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[tantek]
exactly!
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[tantek]
now wait the requisite 5min or so 🙂
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[tantek]
well I guess that picks the page for the week 😛
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[tantek]
finished gardening all the accrued See Alsos in /metaverse into the body of the article
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