#meta 2022-10-14

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Loqi Just generated the first draft of this week's newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-10-14.html I'll generate a draft again tomorrow, so please add to it before then! https://indieweb.org/this-week#How_to
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@ton_zylstra IndieWeb Plugin for WordPress Blocks: https://www.zylstra.org/blog/2022/10/indieweb-plugin-for-wordpress-blocks/ (twitter.com/_/status/1580876691164909568)
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-10-14.html
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barnaby anyone know if it’s possible to explicitly log out of the online chat client? I think being active there is messing with my ability to log in to IRC directly
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sknebel the webchat thing? not sure, does /quit work?
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sknebel or does it get escaped? (I'd expect so, but...)
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barnaby /quit
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sknebel escaped, ok
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[schmarty] lol
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barnaby lol
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barnaby what is quit
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "quit" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "quit is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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sknebel but if you have a registered account
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sknebel you can connect with a different nick and ghost the client
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sknebel and it gets kicked
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aaronpk i don't think i ever made a logout command
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sknebel (/msg NickServ ghost barnaby <yourpassword>)
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barnaby thanks sknebel, I’ll try that out as soon as I can figure out what my libera password is xD
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sknebel if your client autologins via SASL it mgight work without the PW, not sure
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sknebel yes, it does according to nickserv help
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sknebel aaronpk: wonder if you could tie it to the SSE-session?
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aaronpk probably a good idea
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aaronpk right now there's just a global timeout, but i bumped it up kinda high recently
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barnabywalters [spiderman pointing at each other meme]
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Loqi barnabywalters: [tantek] left you a message on 2021-06-29 at 1:59am UTC: I didn't see where folks had expressed preferences for the Microformats Roundtable pop-up on the wiki, so I added a dates section to it so folks can add their prefs. Unfortunately I can't make the 7/31 date stated in https://indieweb.org/2021/Pop-ups/Microformats — was the date survey captured somewhere else?
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aaronpk ha
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aaronpk oh right, there isn't really a connection between sending and receiving
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aaronpk but i could do it by having the web UI send a keepalive message while it's open
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-10-14.html
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barnabywalters hmm I did the ghosting thing but still can’t connect as barnaby
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barnabywalters not that it’s particularly important
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barnabywalters definitly +1 for having either an explicit logout or quicker timeout on the web client though
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aaronpk if you can't get `barnaby` now, it's just something to do with your account. there's a difference between account name and nickname tho https://libera.chat/guides/registration
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barnabywalters I’m not sure exactly what’s happening, both nicns are associated with the same account, but colloquy won’t let me connect as barnaby at the moment
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barnabywalters *nicks
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sknebel the gateway reconnected
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aaronpk it did??
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sknebel yes
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aaronpk i don't know why it would do that
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sknebel [17:28:26] <-- barnaby (~webuser@li826-110.members.linode.com) has quit (Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by barnabywalters!~barnabywa@197.211.131.88)))
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sknebel [17:28:41] --> barnaby (~webuser@li826-110.members.linode.com) has joined #indieweb-meta
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sknebel barnabywalters: so be quicker :P
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barnabywalters hmm I’ve closed the chat browser window now, so maybe if I ghost again it’ll stick this time
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sknebel it did it again
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aaronpk there must be some retry logic in the bot
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sknebel barnabywalters: just ghost and immediately /nick barnaby
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sknebel bad bot
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barnaby oh no
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barnaby now there are three of them
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barnaby xD
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sknebel :D
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barnaby this is getting out of hand
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sknebel three? I see only barnaby and barnaby1
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barnaby ah yeah because I changed from barnabywalters to barnaby
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sknebel yeah
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barnaby so the situation is even more prequel-meme-accurate
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aaronpk i guess it's good that it tries hard to reconnect, but i do need something to make it eventually drop
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barnaby aaronpk: how straightforward would it be to give up reconnecting if there’s an existing user with the same name? and have the {existinguser}1 naming logic only apply when joining chat for the first time
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aaronpk not straightforward at all
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barnaby ha ha fair enough
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aaronpk also not always desirable
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barnaby it’s been years since I touched an IRC bot so I have no idea what is and isn’t possible
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aaronpk !calc 129600 seconds to hours
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Loqi 36 hours
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aaronpk that's how long the timeout is right now haha
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aaronpk part of the problem is this bot is used for both the web and slack gateways, and you want slightly different things for each
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paulopinto.xyz created /User:Paulopinto.xyz (+2020) "Created page with "= Paulo Pinto = <div class="p-summary">{{Infobox person |name = Paulo Pinto |url = https://paulopinto.xyz |photo_url = https://paulopinto-file-backup.s3.eu-central-1.wasabisys.com/images/eu_indieweb.jpg |summary = Paulo Pinto works and lives in<span class="p-locality"> Guimarães</span>, <span class="p-region">Portugal</span>. |elsewhere= {{twitter-link|username=w3bk3rn3l}}, {{mastodon-link| instance = fosstodon.org | username = paulopinto}}, [https://github.com/webker..."" (view diff)
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-10-14.html
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@cagrimmett New #indieweb plugin for WordPress with block support from Jan Boddez! https://jan.boddez.net/wordpress/indieblocks (twitter.com/_/status/1580958274194530304)
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-10-14.html
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@jgmac1106 @linasvepstas I just checked out out your website You website isn't just retros 90 design, it is from the 90s If you haven't yet join us on #Indieweb Keep a wiki page of websites up since 90s I think, would love to add yours (twitter.com/_/status/1580961898849107977)
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-10-14.html
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[jgmac1106] i think I remember that page,..,,,,,
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@linasvepstas ↩️ Thanks! Sure, add! I don't understand how to join #indieweb, but I do keep tabs on tech that would allow an independent, non-GAMAM web to carry on. Sysadmin is my major hurdle. (twitter.com/_/status/1580970794162991110)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ With HTML. You have a website that was made and looks like it launched in 1996. You are more #indieweb then most. Here are the building blocks: https://bit.ly/3g87D8u for devs and https://bit.ly/2ZxVo7F and as someone who has built airline flight reservation may fit in (twitter.com/_/status/1580972209694461954)
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gRegor Re: responsive layout wiki, I was pretty sure when we switched to Vector theme as default years ago it solved it. In account preferences > appearance I see options for Vector 2010 and Vector 2022 now.
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gRegor 2022 def is responsive, but the logo doesn't show in the sidebar, and changes the homepage a bit
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gRegor On mobile the sidebar also appears at the top, so have to scroll down to contents
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-10-14.html
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gRegor Probably something on https://indieweb.org/MediaWiki:Common.css needs to be updated to work with 2010. I'll experiment with a user stylesheet to see what I can get with 2022 version though
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gRegor Though that will be tricky since common.css always loads. Will have to reset some of those styles.
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gRegor aaronpk, can we enable/re-enable https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:WikiEditor?
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aaronpk hmm
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aaronpk yep done
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gRegor awesome, thanks!
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-10-14.html
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gRegor Hm, the OAuth podcast ep from huffduffer got picked up again, was included last week
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gRegor Oh it was someone else bookmarking it
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gRegor Hard to avoid unless we expanded the bookmark to compare original URLs
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-10-14.html
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@johnjohnston This looks as if it might be a way forward for WordPress and the indieWeb. I currently use the post kinds plugin for replying etc. I wonder what would happen if I switched approaches. Can the two plug-ins work together? (twitter.com/_/status/1580995142177394688)
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-10-14.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-10-14.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-10-14.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-10-14.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-10-14.html
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[tantek] !archive https://etherpad.indieweb.org/2020-11-17-hwc
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cali-iwc Created https://indieweb.org/events/-0. Please review the page to ensure the document is correctly formatted and remove any unnecessary text.
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cali.jamesg.blog created /events/-0 (+2473) "Created page with " '''<dfn>0</dfn>''' was an IndieWeb meetup on Zoom held on . * https://etherpad.indieweb.org/2020-11-17-hwc * When: * Archived from: https://etherpad.indieweb.org/2020-11-17-hwc Welcome to Etherpad! You've created a new document. We typically use Etherpad to take session notes during IndieWebCamp events. Please delete this welcome text above, and use the template below to begin taking notes during your session. ------------ IndieWebCamp [city] [..."" (view diff)
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[tantek] ^ capjamesg, well that didn't work as expected. There really shouldn't ever be a "events/-0" page created like that.
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tantek.com deleted /events/-0 "content was: " '''<dfn>0</dfn>''' was an IndieWeb meetup on Zoom held on . * https://etherpad.indieweb.org/2020-11-17-hwc * When: * Archived from: https://etherpad.indieweb.org/2020-11-17-hwc Welcome to Etherpad! You've created a new document. We typically use Etherpad to take session notes during IndieWebCamp events. Please delete this welcome text abov...", and the only contributor was "[[Special:Contributions/Cali.jamesg.blog|Cali.jamesg.blog]]" ([[User talk:Cali.jamesg.blog|talk]])"
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[tantek] tries adding the event link near the top to see if that helps
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[tantek] !archive https://etherpad.indieweb.org/2020-11-17-hwc
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cali.jamesg.blog created /events/-0 (+2287) "Created page with " '''<dfn>0</dfn>''' was an IndieWeb meetup on Zoom held on . * https://etherpad.indieweb.org/2020-11-17-hwc * When: * Archived from: https://etherpad.indieweb.org/2020-11-17-hwc HWC Americas 2020-11-11 * https://events.indieweb.org/2020/11/homebrew-website-club-the-americas-z6Juot7EgDVw == Participants == * {{maxwelljoslyn}} * {{gwg}} * Sue Hanen * alex11 * {{hibs}} * Carla Paloma * Dan Connolly https://madmode.com * {{antonior}} * {{t}} * {..."" (view diff)
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cali-iwc Created https://indieweb.org/events/-0. Please review the page to ensure the document is correctly formatted and remove any unnecessary text.
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[tantek] nope
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tantek.com deleted /events/-0 "content was: " '''<dfn>0</dfn>''' was an IndieWeb meetup on Zoom held on . * https://etherpad.indieweb.org/2020-11-17-hwc * When: * Archived from: https://etherpad.indieweb.org/2020-11-17-hwc HWC Americas 2020-11-11 * https://events.indieweb.org/2020/11/homebrew-website-club-the-americas-z6Juot7EgDVw == Participants == * {{maxwelljoslyn}} * {{gwg}} * Sue...", and the only contributor was "[[Special:Contributions/Cali.jamesg.blog|Cali.jamesg.blog]]" ([[User talk:Cali.jamesg.blog|talk]])"
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[tantek] what is cali-iwc
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "cali-iwc" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "cali-iwc is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[tantek] cali-iwc is /Cali
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Loqi ok
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loqi.me created /cali-iwc (+17) "prompted by [tantek] and redirect added by [tantek]" (view diff)
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[tantek] looks like it only archives from the event URL, not from the etherpad
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[tantek] !archive https://events.indieweb.org/2020/10/homebrew-website-club-west-coast-QQFT9wRngt5U
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cali-iwc Created https://indieweb.org/events/2020-10-07-homebrew-website-club-west-coast. Please review the page to ensure the document is correctly formatted and remove any unnecessary text.
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cali.jamesg.blog created /events/2020-10-07-homebrew-website-club-west-coast (+1605) "Created page with " '''<dfn>Homebrew Website Club West Coast</dfn>''' was an IndieWeb meetup on Zoom held on 2020-10-07. * https://events.indieweb.org/2020/10/homebrew-website-club-west-coast-QQFT9wRngt5U * When: 2020-10-07 * Archived from: https://etherpad.indieweb.org/2020-10-07-hwc-west-coast Homebrew Website Club West Coast 2020-10-07 == Participants == * {{maxwelljoslyn}} * {{lahacker}} * {{gwg}} * {{sue}} * {{angelo}} * {{scottgruber}} == Notes == * ......"" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /events/2020-10-07-homebrew-website-club-west-coast (-184) "clean up" (view diff)
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Loqi Just generated this week's newsletter! You still have a few minutes to make changes, and I'll re-generate it 10 minutes before it gets sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-10-14.html
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tantek.com moved /events/2020-10-07-homebrew-website-club-west-coast to /events/2020-10-07-hwc-west-coast "hwc abbr"
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sknebel capjamesg: ^^^ seems like the archive command for just an etherpad needs to reject being called with no slug
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tantek.com edited /Template:Homebrew_Website_Club (+92) "+ events/2020-10-07-hwc-west-coast" (view diff)
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[tantek] !archive help
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cali-iwc Usage: !archive <event page URL or Etherpad URL> <events/wiki-url>
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[tantek] !archive https://etherpad.indieweb.org/2020-10-14-hwc events/2020-10-14-hwc-west-coast
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cali.jamesg.blog created /events/2020-10-14-hwc-west-coast (+2259) "Created page with " '''<dfn>events/2020-10-14-hwc-west-coast</dfn>''' was an IndieWeb meetup on Zoom held on . * https://etherpad.indieweb.org/2020-10-14-hwc * When: * Archived from: https://etherpad.indieweb.org/2020-10-14-hwc HWC West Coast 2020-10-14 * https://events.indieweb.org/2020/10/homebrew-website-club-west-coast-nQINu0vuIGDs == Participants == * {{maxwelljoslyn}} * {{gwg}} * {{lahacker}} * {{sue}} * {{hibs}} * {{antonior}} == Notes == * New Wea..."" (view diff)
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cali-iwc Created https://indieweb.org/events/2020-10-14-hwc-west-coast. Please review the page to ensure the document is correctly formatted and remove any unnecessary text.
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gRegor I prefer to use the events.indieweb.org URL so it includes that permalink and extracts the date
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tantek.com edited /events/2020-10-14-hwc-west-coast (-239) "clean up" (view diff)
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gRegor !archive https://events.indieweb.org/2022/10/homebrew-website-club-pacific-weguFhvFzuE0 events/2022-10-12-hwc-pacific
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cali.jamesg.blog created /events/2022-10-12-hwc-pacific (+2693) "Created page with " '''<dfn>Homebrew Website Club - Pacific</dfn>''' was an IndieWeb meetup on Zoom held on 2022-10-12. * https://events.indieweb.org/2022/10/homebrew-website-club-pacific-weguFhvFzuE0 * When: 2022-10-12 * Archived from: https://etherpad.indieweb.org/hwcpst-2022-10-12 HWC Pacific 2022-10-12 == Participants == * {{gwg}} * {{tracydurnell}} *{{hollie}} * {{angelo}} * {{gRegor}} == Notes == * Covered Bridges and Roads - https://david.shanske.com/2020/..."" (view diff)
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cali-iwc Created https://indieweb.org/events/2022-10-12-hwc-pacific. Please review the page to ensure the document is correctly formatted and remove any unnecessary text.
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tantek.com edited /Template:Homebrew_Website_Club (+92) "+ events/2020-10-14-hwc-west-coast" (view diff)
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Loqi Generated the final version of the newsletter! This will be sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-10-14.html
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gRegor just in time
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[tantek] it missed the new page which was moved
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@indiewebcamp This week in the #indieweb https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-10-14.html (twitter.com/_/status/1581045943830343680)
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[tantek] why the !important Yousef?
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[tantek] perhaps this is a request for a dark mode theme / variant for the wiki
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[tantek] !archive https://events.indieweb.org/2020/10/homebrew-website-club-everyone-from-north-and-south-america-at-once-J1IimZc5lI3M events/2020-10-21-hwc-americas
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cali-iwc Could not find Etherpad link on provided page.
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[tantek] !archive https://etherpad.indieweb.org/2020-10-21-hwc events/2020-10-21-hwc-americas
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cali.jamesg.blog created /events/2020-10-21-hwc-americas (+1132) "Created page with " '''<dfn>events/2020-10-21-hwc-americas</dfn>''' was an IndieWeb meetup on Zoom held on . * https://etherpad.indieweb.org/2020-10-21-hwc * When: * Archived from: https://etherpad.indieweb.org/2020-10-21-hwc Homebrew Website Club Americas 2020-10-21 * https://events.indieweb.org/2020/10/homebrew-website-club-everyone-from-north-and-south-america-at-once-J1IimZc5lI3M == Participants == * ... add names * {{antonior}} * {{t}} == Notes == * ... add..."" (view diff)
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cali-iwc Created https://indieweb.org/events/2020-10-21-hwc-americas. Please review the page to ensure the document is correctly formatted and remove any unnecessary text.
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gRegor !archive https://events.indieweb.org/2021/12/festive-website-club-europe-london--y5ai405ZbhVl events/2021-12-08-hwc-europe
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cali-iwc A wiki page already exists at the specified URL.
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