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[tantek] ^ docs there, any/all feedback appreciated!
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gRegor It's a few links away from there, but I think this is more thorough: https://indieweb.org/Template:sparkline#How_to_make_a_small_h-card_template
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gRegor I made some updates on that just recently, using "yourname" placeholder. The "How to edit a sparkline" actually had the URL of that page itself, which is why some people have (understandably) accidentally updated that instead of their own sparkline template
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[aciccarello] Could we make it easier to get to the notes of past events from the event page. There's the etherpad link but we normally clear those. Am I missing something? https://events.indieweb.org/2023/01/homebrew-website-club-pacific-dzfmmerdOGF0
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gRegor I might even update that instead of "On any wiki page" and instead link to the Special:MyPage so people are trying things out on their user page
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gRegor Good idea [aciccarello]. For now the "quickest" way to them is once they're added to the table on /HWC (via https://indieweb.org/Template:Homebrew_Website_Club)
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tmichellemoore.com created /Template:tmichellemoore (+155) "Created page with "<span class="h-card">{{sparkline|1= https://tmichellemoore.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/DSC04496.jpg}}[[User:tmichellemoore.com|T Michelle Moore" target="_blank">User:tmichellemoore.com|T" target="_blank">https://tmichellemoore.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/DSC04496.jpg}}[[User:tmichellemoore.com|T Michelle Moore]]</span>"" (view diff)
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[aciccarello] Oh, that's how I was loading the page. I wonder if something went wrong with the archive. The etherpad is still around too.
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[aciccarello] [TMichelleMoore] That sparkline works now! https://indieweb.org/events/2023-01-11-hwc-pacific
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gRegor Last night's prob hasn't been archived yet
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gRegor (disregard, I missed scrollback)
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[TMichelleMoore] @tantek and [aciccarello] Success! I was wondering why I couldn’t just type brackets and my name! I thought Sparklines were some annotation tool or metrics app when I read that page a while back. Boy I was overthinking that. Lol
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gRegor Ok, updated the etherpad with link to the archive. The Pacific emoji for last night's HWC is working for me
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gregorlove.com edited /events/2023-01-11-hwc-pacific (-174) "cleanup" (view diff)
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gRegor [TMichelleMoore]++
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[tantek] [TMichelleMoore]++ well done!
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[TMichelleMoore] Thank you @tantek and @gregor!
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[tantek] aciccarello, re: "easier to get to the notes of past events from the event page" yeah there's a currently a feature gap between the "manual despite it hurts" https://indieweb.org/Homebrew_Website_Club#Meetings table for navigating among notes date-organized archives (each of which also embed that table), vs the events.indieweb permalinks which currently don't have any links to archive navigation of the same "kind" of event.
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[tantek] If you have ideas for how the events.indieweb permalinks could automatically generate and display date-organized archives of the same/similar events like the table in /HWC#Meetings, please file a feature request on the Meetable GH repo
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[tantek] what is Meetable
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Loqi Meetable is an IndieWeb friendly open source events aggregator that is used for the IndieWeb events site at https://events.indieweb.org https://indieweb.org/Meetable
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[aciccarello] I would be happy with a link to the wiki page
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gregorlove.com edited /Template:sparkline/doc (+108) "some improvements, link blank template instructions to the next section to continue setting up h-card" (view diff)
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[aciccarello] I see there is a website field on the event. Would it make sense to put the wiki link there?
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gRegor That sounds good to me
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[aciccarello] I manually set the link. It looks good to me.
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Loqi [Event Updated] ciccarello.me updated "Jan 11, 2023 6:00pm Homebrew Website Club - Pacific" changed website "add post-event wiki link" https://events.indieweb.org/event/435/history/1224/diff
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gRegor In the past some HWCs have had their own indie event permalinks in there, but that doesn't seem to happen nearly as often now.
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[aciccarello] In that case, wouldn't the etherpad archive end up in that same link anyway? Or were they off the wiki?
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gRegor e.g. https://events.indieweb.org/2019/12/homebrew-website-club-san-diego-oP1fbr7g9eIQ
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gRegor no, most hwcs have an etherpad on the wiki regardless
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gRegor Once or twice I've written up a summary of notes on my site, but even that didn't have everything in the etherpad, just my personal summary
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[aciccarello] I see
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gRegor Anyway, seems like an edge case nowadays. Pacific HWC doesn't have indie event posts
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[aciccarello] Oh no... The coffee shop website from that event now looks like a zombie
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gRegor really! ugh. They're still around, so that's odd
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gRegor thanks for heads up, will look for current one / IA it
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www.ciccarello.me edited /events/2019-12-11-homebrew-website-club (-4) "/* San Diego {{new}} */ fix zombie website link for coffee shop" (view diff)
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gRegor is too slow :)
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[tantek] ^ that's a good use-case for breakfastand.coffee
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[tantek] copy the old coffee website content to an entry on breakfastand.coffee, then link to that from the HWC notes 🙂
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IWDiscordRelay <c​apjamesg#4492> Go for it!
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IWDiscordRelay <c​apjamesg#4492> I semi-regularly post to b&c.
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IWDiscordRelay <c​apjamesg#4492> Two additions this year!
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IWDiscordRelay <c​apjamesg#4492> I have been meaning to do aggregate maps.
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IWDiscordRelay <c​apjamesg#4492> for cities, that is
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gRegor True. Is my indie venue page not indie enough though?? ;) https://gregorlove.com/venues/subterranean-coffee-boutique/
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gRegor Just recently added the option to show notes on those. Rare but could be handy.
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IWDiscordRelay <c​apjamesg#4492> Add a h review and submit it 🙂
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gRegor Is it only reviews, or can I submit venues alone?
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gRegor checks out the site
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gRegor Ah, wiki. I was thinking maybe indie magic to syndicate :)
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gRegor Can't sign in since it's using indieauth.com :( "Missing required request parameters: response_type"
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gRegor That's more dev chat though
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gregorlove.com edited /Template:sparkline/doc (+297) "/* How to make a small h-card template */ links to use your wiki page to set it up, link to meta chat for help" (view diff)
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gRegor Updated https://indieweb.org/Template:sparkline so the blank template section links you to the next section to continue setting it up, and links to your own user page to try setting it up, and link to meta chat for questions. [TMichelleMoore] how does that page look now based on your experience setting it up?
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[TMichelleMoore] @gregor Are you talking about the before you start section? If so, that makes it clearer.
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gRegor [TMichelleMoore], In the "Blank Template" section I updated the instructions with a link so you continue on to the next "how to" section. And in that How To section I made some updates, like a direct link to your user page for set up. Before it was "on any wiki page..."
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gRegor The before you start is helpful, though. that was already there
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[TMichelleMoore] @gregor Yes! It is clearer! I mentioned it above, it was the definitions of what a sparkline could be that were definitely throwing me off. So that addition makes it clearer. I think that the before you start and instructions to add a sparkline might be beneficial on any page that is on the topic of how to get started on the IndieWeb website.
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gRegor Good to know, thanks. Yeah we can probably surface this information better
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[tantek] ^ slower week in the newsletter
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[tantek] do we have any ideas for how to do better than "a post" for IndieNews items without an explicit name? https://indieweb.org/this-week/2023-01-13.html#news
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aaronpk not sure what happened with the cplong one, since it does have a name on the site
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aaronpk i can fix that manually on indienews for now
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aaronpk oh the bookmark post doesn't have a name https://boffosocko.com/2023/01/10/55813649/
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[tantek] do bookmark posts normally have a name?
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aaronpk if they are a bookmark of a blog post i thought yes
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aaronpk the tricky thing is often the bookmark posts are bookmarks of things that don't have mf2 themselves, so indienews pulls from the mf2 of the bookmark post rather than the canonical post. could probably use some better logic to only use the bookmark post as fallback
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aaronpk tho i thought there was something like that in there, but it's been so long since i've touched that code
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[tantek] yes inspired by your edit [gRegorLove]
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gRegor :)
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