#meta 2023-03-09

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kvibber.com edited /sanitize (+201) "Add a bit about *why* HTML sanitizing is both common and essential (not just appearance but also breakage and code injection)" (view diff)
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kaja.sknebel.net edited /User:Kaja.sknebel.net/upcoming-hwcs (+10) "update from events.indieweb.org" (view diff)
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GWG Just me in the HWC. I guess it is quiet coding hour
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[tantek] GWG, perhaps start a brainstorming session for the month
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GWG [tantek]: ?
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[tantek] You could call it: The Ideas of March
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gRegor oof XD
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Loqi [New Event] david.shanske.com created "Mar 15, 2023 6:00pm The Ideas of March Homebrew Website Club - Pacific" https://events.indieweb.org/dDAx7CwO79wx
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kaja.sknebel.net edited /User:Kaja.sknebel.net/upcoming-hwcs (+204) "update from events.indieweb.org" (view diff)
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capjamesg !archive https://etherpad.indieweb.org/HWC_Europe-London_080323 events/2023-02-08-hwc-europe
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cali-iwc Created https://indieweb.org/events/2023-02-08-hwc-europe. Please review the page to ensure the document is correctly formatted and remove any unnecessary text.
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cali.jamesg.blog created /events/2023-02-08-hwc-europe (+1321) "Created page with " '''<dfn>[https://etherpad.indieweb.org/HWC_Europe-London_080323 events/2023-02-08-hwc-europe]</dfn>''' was an IndieWeb meetup on Zoom held on . * Archived from: https://etherpad.indieweb.org/HWC_Europe-London_080323 ------------ Homebrew Website Club Europe/London 2023-03-08 == Participants == * {{t}} * {{capjamesg}} * {{user:sarajaksa.eu}} * {{marksuth}} * ... add names == Notes == * Autolinking footnotes ** [[CASSIS]] and [[footnotes]] support..."" (view diff)
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[tantek] yeah, getting connection timeouts "An error occurred during a connection to indieweb.org. PR_IO_TIMEOUT_ERROR"
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[tantek] and just started working again. weird
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[tantek] currently the https://indieweb.org/website-analytics page clusters them into active and passive sections (which I think is fine to distinguish). From an IndieWeb perspective however, would it be more useful to cluster them into services vs software you can run on your own site?
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[tantek] I want to cite that page for examples and unfortunately the current lists have a mix of things I'd suggest and not
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[tantek] lol related: https://www.isgoogleanalyticsillegal.com/
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tantek.com edited /Micropub-extensions (+549) "dfn, and why & how to sections" (view diff)
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tracydurnell.com edited /land_acknowledgment (+126) "/* Other Personal Websites */ add example" (view diff)
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gRegor Hm, wrong date slug on that HWC Europe. I'll update and add to the table
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gregorlove.com moved /events/2023-02-08-hwc-europe to /events/2023-03-08-hwc-europe "fixed date slug"
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gregorlove.com edited /events/2023-03-08-hwc-europe (-160) "cleanup, corrected dfn" (view diff)
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gRegor !archive https://events.indieweb.org/2023/03/homebrew-website-club-pacific-yku4qs4sePOc events/2023-03-01-hwc-pacific
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cali.jamesg.blog created /events/2023-03-01-hwc-pacific (+3397) "Created page with " '''<dfn>[https://events.indieweb.org/2023/03/homebrew-website-club-pacific-yku4qs4sePOc Homebrew Website Club - Pacific]</dfn>''' was an IndieWeb meetup on Zoom held on 2023-03-01. * Archived from: https://etherpad.indieweb.org/2023-03-01-hwc-pacific HWC Pacific 2023-03-01 == Participants == * {{gwg}} * {{angelo}} * {{aciccarello}} * {{benji}} * Special Scottish guest: {{capjamesg}} * {{tracydurnell}} == Notes == * https://pigeonsarentreal.co.uk/..."" (view diff)
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cali-iwc Created https://indieweb.org/events/2023-03-01-hwc-pacific. Please review the page to ensure the document is correctly formatted and remove any unnecessary text.
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gRegor !archive https://events.indieweb.org/2023/03/homebrew-website-club-pacific-lSDuTxKrITZF events/2023-03-08-hwc-pacific
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cali.jamesg.blog created /events/2023-03-08-hwc-pacific (+1777) "Created page with " '''<dfn>[https://events.indieweb.org/2023/03/homebrew-website-club-pacific-lSDuTxKrITZF Homebrew Website Club - Pacific]</dfn>''' was an IndieWeb meetup on Zoom held on 2023-03-08. * Archived from: https://etherpad.indieweb.org/2023-03-08-hwc-pacific HWC Pacific 2023-03-08 == Participants == * {{gwg}} * {{gRegor}} * {{angelo}} * {{aciccarello}} == Notes == Wednesday funnies: the pain of maintaing tools: * https://xkcd.com/1579/ * https://xkcd...."" (view diff)
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gRegor aaronpk, any chance you could deploy https://github.com/indieweb/this-week/pull/24 today? Would be nice to see how it groups the few HWC wiki pages this week
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aaronpk yes probably
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gRegor cool, thanks!
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Loqi [Event Updated] gregorlove.com updated "Mar 8, 2023 6:00pm Homebrew Website Club - Pacific" changed website "+wiki link" https://events.indieweb.org/event/447/history/1252/diff
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[tantek] exciting! changes to the newsletter!
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jkphl.is edited /Planning (-9) "/* Dusseldorf */" (view diff)
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[tantek] 😢
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tantek.com edited /Planning (-10) "/* Dusseldorf */ now very likely I can go" (view diff)
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[tantek] !tell Zegnat are you already planning to go to btconf Düsseldorf? I am now very likely to go and am working with Marc to get a venue for IndieWebCamp. If you’re going, I can definitely use your help with helping run the IndieWebCamp!
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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capjamesg Cali should now add edit summaries to the wiki
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capjamesg It is a short message, but it will mean the chat doesn't get crowded up with showing a long excerpt of the changes.
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capjamesg GWG What does this mean from the HWC notes yesterday: "Trying for a new microformats?"
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capjamesg As in a new microformats pop up?
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gRegor Yeah
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gRegor capjamesg++ for the edit summaries
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Loqi capjamesg has 21 karma in this channel over the last year (83 in all channels)
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GWG Yes, that was it
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GWG We were talking protocols
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gregorlove.com edited /pop-up (+0) "/* Upcoming */ 2023 link" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /2023/Pop-ups/Sessions (+649) "Proposed Session Template" (view diff)
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gRegor popup organizers, added a template we can copy/paste for proposed sessions, updates welcome: https://indieweb.org/2023/Pop-ups/Sessions#Proposed_Session_Template
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aaronpk ok what is going on, github is getting this error but I am not "PHP Parse error: syntax error, unexpected token ";", expecting "{" in /home/runner/work/this-week/this-week/vendor/tantek/cassis/cassis.php on line 12"
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sknebel php versions?
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aaronpk same error in 7.4 and 8.*
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gRegor aaronpk, Try running `php ./vendor/tantek/cassis/post-process.php`
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aaronpk i can't, it's on github :)
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gRegor Notes in the readme now too
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gRegor Oh
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[schmarty] cassis has a post-install preprocess step as part of its composer.json that GitHub is probably not running
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aaronpk the cassis.php file that's in the cassis repo is already post processed though, so shouldn't it be using that?
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gRegor Yeah, post-install doesn't run on dependencies unfortunately
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[schmarty] Oop I'm on intermittent net and gRegor got it already 🤗
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gRegor aaronpk, Yeah, but that cassis.php doesn't work with PHP8. I didn't run into issues with it on 7.4 though, so that's odd.
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aaronpk yea so i think this is sometihng different
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gRegor checking
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aaronpk i just deleted my vendor folder and reinstalled and it (of course) does have the cassis.php file in it already
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aaronpk that's weird i get that exact error running this in php 8
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gRegor yeah, it does seem like it's the same as the '$s.match' error in PHP8, and that's the first line that appears on too
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gRegor From the image link in that GH Action, it looks like PHP8 is included? https://github.com/actions/runner-images/blob/ubuntu22/20230305.1/images/linux/Ubuntu2204-Readme.md
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gRegor From Set up job > Runner Image > Included software
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aaronpk confirmed, the php7.4 test is actually running php8 😮
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aaronpk https://github.com/indieweb/this-week/actions/runs/4379449175/jobs/7665409190
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aaronpk look at the "Install Dependencies" output, i added a `php -v` there
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gRegor so might need something other than `runs-on: ubuntu-latest` in the workflow
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aaronpk ugh
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gRegor Label `ubuntu-20.04` should support it https://github.com/marketplace/actions/setup-php-action#cloud-osplatform-support
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aaronpk i have no idea how to make that work with the testing matrix
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aaronpk otoh could just switch this to run only one test with that ubuntu
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gRegor I think `runs-on: ubuntu-20.04` should work
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aaronpk or, i could update the actual cassis.php file that packagist uses
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aaronpk which should probably happen anyway
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gRegor Sorry, I should have had the action run on my dev branch. I'm not sure how to, though, haha
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aaronpk ok https://github.com/tantek/cassis/pull/41
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Loqi [preview] [aaronpk] #41 Update cassis.php to latest cassis.js version
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aaronpk ok i also switched the newsletter tests to ubuntu 20, and removed the version matrix cause that wasn't working anyway, all them were running 8.1
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aaronpk womp womp ubuntu 20.04 installed php 8.2
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[schmarty] php8 has crept into 20.x yeah
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aaronpk trying something else now...
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aaronpk ha there we go
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aaronpk this is such deeply unsatisfying work
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aaronpk ok tests pass now
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2023-03-10.html
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gRegor oof
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gRegor but it works!
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aaronpk well that's weird
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gRegor I think HWC Europe doesn't show up bc it was a moved page
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aaronpk the events section spewed into the terminal
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gRegor oh no
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gRegor But the moved pages is a known issue
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aaronpk oh i think i messed up resolving the merge conflict
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aaronpk maybe not?
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aaronpk that's weird, i don't remember this changing, but running ob_get_clean also *turns off* output buffering, so you can't nest them
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gRegor oh, interesting
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aaronpk this really should get rewritten using an actual templating system or something
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aaronpk or at least building strings instead of echo
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gRegor I didn't think anything changed with the output buffering in that merge, though maybe it did in php8?
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aaronpk it's still running in 7.4 tho
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aaronpk i don't get why this would stop working
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gRegor weird
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aaronpk i'll just rewrite this to avoid the nested bit
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2023-03-10.html
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aaronpk wait why didn't that fix it
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gRegor Seeing this locally or in the github action?
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aaronpk local
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2023-03-10.html
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aaronpk actually it's like output buffering isn't workingat all
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gRegor Is it running `tests/test-wiki-summary.php`?
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gRegor I do see an echo line in there that's outside the ob
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gRegor Though just the date range
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aaronpk no i'm running the actual generation script
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aaronpk which is why there are no events in that preview link
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gRegor Oh, the missing Meetable events! Missed that. I was just looking at the wiki event pages lower down
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aaronpk also the header line is missing https://indieweb.org/this-week/2023-03-03.html
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aaronpk and podcasts and posts
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aaronpk new plan
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2023-03-10.html
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aaronpk there we go
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gRegor \o/
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gRegor What was the trick?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "trick" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "trick is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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gRegor lol
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aaronpk aha i figured it out
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aaronpk this continue line means it never gets to the end of the loop to run ob_get_clean https://github.com/indieweb/this-week/commit/e2b3c206ddb5edd55f0801f9da16fb7b78f38189#diff-6ed442981711525036d03360a603b1da64603d537ab9fe716ddc81423f53fcefR102
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gRegor ahh
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aaronpk that might actually be causing other problems
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2023-03-10.html
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aaronpk i also did this to help avoid this in the future https://github.com/indieweb/this-week/commit/5813266f863736daccc47da70d3ab9e951b11d84
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aaronpk less worrying about ob nesting
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gRegor nice
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aaronpk ok i think it's all fixed up now
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2023-03-10.html
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gRegor aaronpk++ awesome!
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Loqi aaronpk has 19 karma in this channel over the last year (85 in all channels)
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aaronpk that was *not fun*
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aaronpk good thing i didn't want to do anything else right now lol
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gRegor !archive https://events.indieweb.org/2021/08/homebrew-website-club-the-americas-d2tgFwRa5gxB events/2021-08-25-hwc-americas
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gRegor !archive https://events.indieweb.org/2021/08/homebrew-website-club-the-americas-vH0YH1fN0qbT events/2021-08-18-hwc-americas
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[tantek] walks-into-the-room-with-pizza-in-hand-but-everything-is-on-fire.gif
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aaronpk lol
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aaronpk can i have some of the pizza at least?