#meta 2023-06-07

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[Jo] I like the idea of a personal dictionary. I always fear I'm too technical for some of my friends who don't care about that stuff but don't want to annoy those who already know what i'm talking about either.
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capjamesg [Jo] I'd love to see more personal dictionaries!
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[tantek] Did we figure out the difference between a personal dictionary & glossary?
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[campegg] [tantek] Personally, I see a dictionary as a general collection of words and their meanings, while a glossary is a much more specific set of words and definitions—i.e. a dictionary defines all of the words in a language, while a glossary is topic -specific and defines jargon, terms of art. etc related to that topic
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[campegg] So for personal use, I think a glossary is probably the more appropriate; we are probably not going to provide definitions for all of the words we us in our native language, but providing definitions of our personal idioms is something I can see happening
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[tantek] I like that distinction [campegg] and it makes sense to me
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[campegg] Although now I'm thinking I need to look up "dictionary" in the dictionary to make sure my understanding of the word is accurate 🙂
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[tantek] realizing now the personal glossary/dictionary topic is ontopic for #indieweb 🙂
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[tantek] on more of a meta point, if anyone here has IndieWeb-related suggestions for this, please feel free to make a submission! https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/rise25/
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[tantek] plenty of folks here are "shaping the future of the internet for the better over the next quarter century and beyond"
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capjamesg What is a personal style guide?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "personal style guide" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "personal style guide is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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capjamesg A personal style guide is a document codiying syntaxes and style preferences for communication, usually in written form, that one may publish on their personal website.
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Loqi ok
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gRegor Hmm
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gRegor I thought we had a page for that (separate from /style-guide) because I thought I had listed my visual style guide page there.
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Loqi [New Event] jamesg.blog created "Jun 14, 2023 7:00pm Homebrew Website Club Europe/London" https://events.indieweb.org/7mQKhTKC4viv
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gRegor Maybe "design style guide" is a more clear term for what I'm thinking of. Just found [aciccarello] has one too: https://www.ciccarello.me/style-guide/ and mine: https://gregorlove.com/style-guide/
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gRegor Mine needs work, definitely been tweaking some things and didn't update the static HTML there
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gRegor Anyway, not sure if that should all go on personal style guide or a separate page
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[aciccarello] I think I've seen communication preferences on some people's sites. Idk if that's on the wiki anywhere
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gRegor What is communication
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Loqi communication in the context of the indieweb refers to using your personal website as a starting point and potentially way for people to contact you https://indieweb.org/communication
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[tantek] see previous conversation (I think I HWC?) about using indieweb-* as names for things about the wiki / community (like what the current /style-guide discusses) to make room for a "plain name" page for things that people actually publish. that is, /style-guide should be the page for a personal style guide, instead of a separate new page
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[tantek] pretty sure you were there capjamesg, last week right?
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[tantek] did that not seem like the right answer?
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[tantek] capjamesg you even +1'd my proposal in the etherpad archived on the wiki! https://indieweb.org/events/2023-05-31-hwc-europe
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gRegor Makes sense. I'm wondering more about the distinction between a design style guide and a text communication preference style guide. Maybe they could be on one page, just different categories of style guides.
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gRegor +1 for the indieweb- prefix idea
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[tantek] what is a communication protocol
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "communication protocol" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "communication protocol is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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gRegor Is that /communication?
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gRegor Though I thought https://aaronpk.com/contact was on there, don't see it currently
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gRegor what is contact
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Loqi communication in the context of the indieweb refers to using your personal website as a starting point and potentially way for people to contact you https://indieweb.org/contact
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[tantek] it's not quite the same gRegor. /contact is for "how to" contact someone, setup a page for being contacted, like the actual action of contacting.
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[tantek] it seems we don't have a page on text communication preferences, which is more about if/when/why you should (not) contact someone and re: which topics
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[tantek] e.g. I've had this (somewhat out of date) page for ages: http://tantek.com/w/CommunicationProtocols
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gRegor Ah yeah. This was the page I was thinking of https://aaronparecki.com/communication-protocols/
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gRegor So definitely a few examples to link... somewhere :)
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[tantek] I searched the wiki for it and didn't see it so yeah
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