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gregorlove.com uploaded /Special:Log/upload "uploaded "[[File:instagram-automated-behavior-warning.png]]" https://indieweb.org/File:instagram-automated-behavior-warning.png"
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gregorlove.com edited /Instagram (+1028) "/* Issues */ Automated behavior warning" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /Mastodon (+631) "/* POSSE */ +Any Feed to Mastodon Github Action" (view diff)
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gRegor what is presentation
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Loqi 📽️ A presentation or slide deck is an online version of the visual portion of a demonstration typically presented in person at a conference, workshop, or other event https://indieweb.org/presentation
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kaja.sknebel.net edited /User:Kaja.sknebel.net/upcoming-hwcs (+10) "update from events.indieweb.org" (view diff)
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GWG A presentation is a thing you can do at an HWC
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gregorlove.com edited /presentations_about (+253) "/* 2019 */ +Nicolas Hoizey at Paris Web 2019" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /presentations_about (+140) "/* 2019 */ +Post on Nicolas' site with link to slides" (view diff)
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gRegor [tantek], from the meta-pages discussion, wondering if we should make ones like that^ indieweb-presentations or keep as is
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[tantek] oof good find
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gRegor similar pattern, /videos_about_the_indieweb, came across with a redirect link /video_about
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[tantek] ok now I see "indieweb" in the URL of "indieweb-*" pages and I cannot unsee it and the URL design DRY violation is aesthetically cringe
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[tantek] see "indieweb" *twice* in the URL of "indieweb-*" pages
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[tantek] maybe the "-about" suffix is better than an "indieweb-" prefix
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[tantek] except we may need to patch Loqi's trailing preposition what is block list
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[tantek] what is presentations about
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gRegorLove_ heh
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[tantek] ^ Loqi ignores "what is" queries that end with a preposition
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[tantek] gives Loqi a what is query ending with a preposition
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Loqi enjoys the what is query ending with a preposition
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[tantek] what is about
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gRegor meta- prefix? like /meta-style-guide instead of /indieweb-style-guide
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aaronpk what is meta?
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Loqi meta in the IndieWeb may refer to the HTML <meta> tag, the meta discussion channel, a general expression that something is about something, or sometimes a sarcastic reference to Facebook which renamed itself Meta in 2021 https://indieweb.org/meta
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aaronpk 😂
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[tantek] meta is less friendly than about
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gRegor indieweb.org/Meta "there is currently no text on this page" Ahhh, as it should be 😂
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[tantek] also yes it's overloaded
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gRegor Yeah. Maybe style guide is an edge case, but about doesn't seem to fit in that
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gRegor about-style-guide?
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gRegor style-guide-about?
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tantek.com created /Meta (+22) "r in case someone types the cap" (view diff)
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gRegor doh
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gRegor That's what I get for typing a URL though
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[tantek] so we do have an /about page about "about" pages
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[tantek] indeed that reads awkwardly with "style-guide"
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[tantek] there was another one recently
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[tantek] what is definition
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Loqi A definition on the IndieWeb wiki should be an accessible, basic, clear, plain English description of the term (or phrase) naming a wiki page, with an explicit connection to the term’s relevance to the IndieWeb, and ideally without any use of jargon https://indieweb.org/definition
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[tantek] hmm
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[tantek] there's kind of two use-cases here. one for "indieweb" in general as a concept/community thing (presentations_about, posts_about, videos_about etc.)
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[tantek] second there are pages for the indieweb wiki in particular, like /definition
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[tantek] and maybe some in between like /buttons
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GWG [snarfed] is making a rare HWC public appearance. I have photo evidence
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[schmarty] "sure, it's indieweb, but is it _indieweb-indieweb?_"
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gRegor lol
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[tw2113_Slack_] well, you see, there's Indieweb the brand, and then there's Indieweb the shorthand for independent web. Very dangerous to mix up
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[tw2113_Slack_] </sarcasm>
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darylsun.page created /User:Darylsun.page (+351) "Created page with "{{Infobox person |name = Daryl Sun |url = https://darylsun.page |photo_url = https://profiles.cache.lol/darylsun/picture |pronouns = she/her |summary = Hello, my name is Daryl Sun. I play with software and videogames. Sometimes I write things. |elsewhere = [https://social.lol/@darylsun Mastodon] |contact = hello@darylsun.page |chatname = darylsun }}"" (view diff)
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gRegor you kid but https://indieweb.org/indieweb-style-guide does differentiate proper noun vs generic :D
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gRegor what is indyweb
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Loqi Indy web is a spider web encountered by the character Indiana Jones (AKA Indy), the web of Indiana Jones fan sites which link to each other, personal site features that make use of aesthetics from the Indiana Jones movies, or a misspelling of IndieWeb https://indieweb.org/IndyWeb
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[tw2113_Slack_] fair 😄
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gRegor what is green computing
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Loqi Green Computing is practice of using computers and their resources in environmentally responsible way. Community members may try to use renewable energy, recycled computers, owning rather than streaming media, and creating websites with smaller page loads https://indieweb.org/green_computing
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darylsun.page edited /User:Darylsun.page (+87) (view diff)
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darylsun.page edited /chat-names (+103) (view diff)
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Loqi [New Event] david.shanske.com created "Jun 28, 2023 6:00pm Homebrew Website Club - Pacific" https://events.indieweb.org/z4UUl4yEfWEP
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kaja.sknebel.net edited /User:Kaja.sknebel.net/upcoming-hwcs (+166) "update from events.indieweb.org" (view diff)
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darylsun.page created /Template:darylsun (+147) "Created page with "<span class="h-card" style="white-space:nowrap">{{sparkline|1=https://profiles.cache.lol/darylsun/picture}} [[User:Darylsun.page|Daryl Sun]]</span>"" (view diff)
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gRegor darylsun++ for wikifying
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Loqi darylsun has 1 karma over the last year
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darylsun.page edited /User:Darylsun.page (+24) (view diff)
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darylsun.page edited /User:Darylsun.page (+286) (view diff)
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lifeofpablo.com edited /wikifying (+18) "/* IndieWeb Examples */" (view diff)
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lifeofpablo.com edited /wikifying (-18) "/* IndieWeb Examples */" (view diff)
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darylsun.page edited /User:Darylsun.page (+153) (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /Dat (+60) "dfn, integrate second sentence, blog link" (view diff)
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gRegor what is dat
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Loqi https://indieweb.org/Dat
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gRegor what is dat
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Loqi Dat was a protocol for transferring files peer-to-peer, renamed to Hypercore protocol in 2020 https://indieweb.org/Dat
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tantek.com edited /Stack_Overflow (+935) "add Stack Exchange stub section, Server Fault subsection" (view diff)
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c​apjamesg Can someone run this on IRC for me:
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c​apjamesg !archive https://etherpad.indieweb.org/HWC_Europe_2023-06-14 events/hwc-europe-2023-06-14
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sknebel !archive https://etherpad.indieweb.org/HWC_Europe_2023-06-14 events/2023-06-14-hwc-europe
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cali-iwc Created https://indieweb.org/events/2023-06-14-hwc-europe. Please review the page to ensure the document is correctly formatted and remove any unnecessary text.
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cali.jamesg.blog created /events/2023-06-14-hwc-europe (+1779) "Created event page using IndieWeb events / Etherpad archiver" (view diff)
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kaja.sknebel.net edited /User:Kaja.sknebel.net/upcoming-hwcs (-349) "update from events.indieweb.org" (view diff)
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kaja.sknebel.net edited /Template:next-hwc (+0) "update next date from events.indieweb.org" (view diff)
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c​apjamesg sknebel++
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Loqi sknebel has 3 karma in this channel over the last year (45 in all channels)
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sarajaksa.eu created /indieweb-carnival (+1135) "Created page with "A [[bloging-carneval|carneval]] on the topics connected to the IndieWeb specifically. Started as based on the discussion in the [[2023-06-14-hwc-europe|Homebrew club London/Europe]]. One of the roles would be to motivate people to post more on their websites. Each month, the carnival has a different host. On the beginning of the month the host come up with the topic, and post it both on their website and here. Then other people post their submissions and alert the hos..."" (view diff)
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sarajaksa.eu edited /events/2023-06-14-hwc-europe (+195) "Add the link to post inspired by this meeting" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Bluesky (+138) "move a bunch of history to History section, link more prominently to AT Proto for folks looking for that" (view diff)
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vikanezrimaya i think i can't log into the wiki... something's wrong with indielogin.com
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gregorlove.com edited /events/2023-06-14-hwc-europe (-115) "cleanup" (view diff)
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gRegor Hm, I just signed in to indielogin.com ok
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gRegor Getting an error message?
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vikanezrimaya yeah, something about an invalid state parameter... filed an issue on github: https://github.com/aaronpk/indielogin.com/issues/106
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gRegor !archive https://events.indieweb.org/2023/06/homebrew-website-club-pacific-wephspCwOHj2 events/2023-06-14-hwc-pacific
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Loqi [preview] [vikanezrimaya] #106 Error: Your IndieAuth server did not return a valid state parameter
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cali.jamesg.blog created /events/2023-06-14-hwc-pacific (+2051) "Created event page using IndieWeb events / Etherpad archiver" (view diff)
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cali-iwc Created https://indieweb.org/events/2023-06-14-hwc-pacific. Please review the page to ensure the document is correctly formatted and remove any unnecessary text.
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gregorlove.com edited /events/2023-06-14-hwc-pacific (-160) "cleanup" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /Template:Homebrew_Website_Club (+127) "+06/14 HWCs" (view diff)
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fireburn.ru created /Template:vikanezrimaya (+207) "Created template, copying from {{aaronpk}}" (view diff)
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fireburn.ru edited /Bluesky (+242) "/* IndieWeb Examples */ Added fireburn.ru aka vikanezrimaya.xyz" (view diff)
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capjamesg sknebel++ for cleaning up the HWC London / Europe Etherpad notes.
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jamesg.blog edited /indieweb-carnival (+0) (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /indieweb-carnival (+38) "dfn" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /blog_carnival (+63) "IndieWeb Examples, addyourself" (view diff)
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capjamesg blog carnival << [[indieweb_carnival]]
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Loqi ok, I added "[[indieweb_carnival]]" to a new "See Also" section of /blog_carnival https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=88298&oldid=88297
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loqi.me edited /blog_carnival (+41) "capjamesg added "[[indieweb_carnival]]" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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loqi.me created /nextjs (+20) "prompted by [tantek] and redirect added by [tantek]" (view diff)
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