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[tantek] capjamesg, are you still looking into making https://indieweb.org/Planning#Berlin happen?
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Loqi nearlyfreespeech is a pay-what-you-use hosting service based in US https://indieweb.org/nearlyfreespeech
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capjamesg !archive https://events.indieweb.org/2023/08/homebrew-website-club-europe-london-hBTzZsFW7XNp events/2023-08-16-hwc-europe
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# [ender] am interested in making an NYC event happen! trying to find collaborators
# [ender] if I remember correctly, GWG and [schmarty] might be interested in an nyc event?
# [ender] #indieweb-wordpress
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[schmarty] hello, yes, i am interested! were you thinking something like an in-person Homebrew Website Club (couple of hours in-person event) or like an IndieWebCamp (2-day event, unconference followed by hack day)
# [ender] I was thinking about an event like build your own website in an hour
# [ender] I would hope to collaborate with rhizome, sfpc, or even bluestockings? depends on their willingness and interest. (bluestockings is just a bookstore that is cool and they might help)
# [ender] I have quite a few ideas for venue but I don't own one myself ! just ppl who might like the idea
# [ender] we could host popups to gauge interest in a longer meeting? idea from today's homebrew
# [schmarty] ah, a different kind of thing! i don't know much about those venues, unfortunately. i can best help with things on the indieweb side (wiki, event pages, tips from organizing in the past, etc) and (depending on the topic) lend a hand with event planning and facilitating.
# [ender] ↩️ that sounds great!
# [schmarty] specifically i'm practiced with the low-key style of Homebrew Website Club organizing (https://indieweb.org/Homebrew_Website_Club#How_to_Organize)
# [schmarty] a focus like "build a website in an hour" kinda fits, but i suggest writing up specific goals and a loose timeline for the event (e.g. 30 minutes for latecomers, intros, kickoff, 1 hour hacking, 30 minutes demos, wrap up).
# [ender] ↩️ sure!
# [ender] bluestockings might be interested in a meeting with an empowerment theme (you can code or something like that?)
# [ender] I'm most interested in venue and theme of meeting
# [ender] just some ideas. the wiki you linked to seems solid to me
# [ender] I think sfpc would be interested if there was a focus on DIY website making, and rhizome might be interested in a meeting with an artistic theme (like web art)
# [ender] ↩️ build a website in an hour is adapted from [capjamesg]! writing a plan for the meeting also makes sense
# capjamesg I plan to improve https://60minute.site with more information about how the event is structured, etc.
# [schmarty] cool! heads-up that the slack chat is bridged to IRC, so things like slack replies look different, there. the web logs show it a bit: https://chat.indieweb.org/meta/2023-08-16#bottom
# [schmarty] nice! capjamesg++
# [schmarty] ender++ thanks for reaching out. i'll be in and out of chat, happy to help plan when i am around. stepping away from the computer for today!
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gRegor *cough* that domain is available https://domainr.com/schmarty.party
# [ender] I'm definitely open to other venue/meeting ideas! I was just suggesting some *possible* ideas
# [ender] I'm curious to know where the previous NYC events were hosted
# [ender] what does reaching out to venues typically look like? what is the usual process?
# [ender] (I would be willing to reach out to venues if other people are interested in the idea)
# [ender] what does reaching out to venues typically look like? what is the usual process?
# [ender] (I would be willing to reach out to venues if other people are interested in the idea)
# [ender] what does reaching out to venues typically look like? what is the usual process?
# [ender] (I would be willing to reach out to venues if other people are interested in the idea)
# [ender] I think I accidentally posted multiple times, sorry if I did that
# [ender] that wiki link is helpful
# [ender] how do people usually go about reaching out to venues
# gRegor There's a couple NYC HWCs before 2020 listed on https://events.indieweb.org/tag/nyc/archive, could check those for past venues
# gRegor And before 2019 it's tricky to find them on the wiki, but a couple are linked here: https://indieweb.org/Homebrew_Website_Club#%F0%9F%97%BD_New_York_City
# [ender] I have several venue ideas! im not sure others are interested in me trying to reach out though. i also don't know what to say to each venue
# [schmarty] for past venues in NYC (ca 2019 aka "the before times") i just occupied a table at a coffee shop, no real venue coordination was needed. for the ones you mentioned it sounds like they may have a way to contact them, probably email or a contact form?
# [ender] is anyone interested in me doing outreach? if so, what would the outreach email say?
# [ender] occupying a ☕ table is also an option
# [schmarty] i think it makes sense to contact them with details like a couple of sentences about the event, how much space and time would be needed. depending on the venue maybe including ways that it fits with their organization or mission, offering to answer any questions they have and how best to contact you, etc.
# [schmarty] i wonder if we have anything like that on the wiki 🤔
# [schmarty] i'm not sure i've ever done it personally! prior to hosting HWC NYC meetups (zero-coordination with coffee shop venues) I was hosting HWC Baltimore where I personally knew folks at a great youth makerspace that was often unused after hours.
# [ender] do you want to choose a coffee shop venue then?
# gRegor Yeah I'm not sure of a page with suggestions for the outreach part, kind of a hybrid between info on /HWC /pop-ups (which have been almost entirely virtual), and /organizing (IndieWebCamps)
# [schmarty] ender: this is where we are bumping up against my wrecked confidence for hosting since COVID. even pre-COVID it was a challenge to grab tables near power, make sure everyone can get on the wifi, etc. they can be challenging!
# [schmarty] i'm still not doing eating, drinking, or going unmasked indoors in public places, so i'm not even a good coffee shop customer when i'm _not_ trying to grab space for an event 😅
# [ender] 1. Is there interest in an NYC popup?
# [ender] okay. I would like to answer some questions then:
# [ender] 4. If there is interest, when could I reach out to the venues listed in this chat?
# [ender] 2. Is "build your own website" an okay popup theme?( I am thinking from the perspective of a venue who doesn't know what HWC is)
# [ender] 3. If not, what popup themes are others interested in?
# [schmarty] looking forward to other folks' thoughts on these! i'm going to sit with it for the evening!
# Loqi 🏕 Pop-ups are one-time IndieWeb events covering a specific topic, similar to an IndieWebCamp session, or a pop-up Homebrew Website Club in a new location. The IndieWeb community is planning upcoming pop-ups — if you'd like to help, please contribute to this page https://indieweb.org/popup
# gRegor aha, and documenting organizing for in-person on https://indieweb.org/Pop-up_Organizing
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# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "aka" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "aka is ____", a sentence describing the term)
# [ender] thank you [capjamesg] I was indeed intimidated. congratulations to me :)
# [ender] so much karma. I'm so blessed 💖
# [ender] I did it [capjamesg].... I added a sparkline and a link to my wiki page :0
# [ender] I am also excited...for the possible nyc popup
# [ender] the sponsorship prospectus documents from previous summits contain some useful language for approaching venues
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