#meta 2023-10-02

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[tantek] 25 minutes until pomodoro timer rings — for wikifying some more, part 5
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Loqi I added a countdown scheduled for 2023-10-01 5:28pm PDT (#7056)
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[tantek] notification fatigue << Brainstorm: How to send fewer notifications. 2023-08-02 Reddit post: [https://www.reddit.com/r/ProductManagement/comments/15gvwqz/too_many_notifications/ Too many Notifications]
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Loqi ok, I added "Brainstorm: How to send fewer notifications. 2023-08-02 Reddit post: [https://www.reddit.com/r/ProductManagement/comments/15gvwqz/too_many_notifications/ Too many Notifications]" to the "See Also" section of /notification_fatigue https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=89535&oldid=89526
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tantek.com edited /notification_fatigue (+972) "incorporate SA into new Brainstorming section, subsection How to send fewer notifications" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /notification_fatigue (+7) "move TOC up" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /notification_fatigue (+228) "Why reduce, incorporate NPR article" (view diff)
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Loqi pomodoro timer rings — for wikifying some more, part 5
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tantek.com edited /smart_watch (-205) "rewrite dfn for modern use and IndieWeb relevance, Why / Why use sections, Products, copyedit Criticisms, new See Alsos" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Apple_Watch (+385) "link dfn, add IndieWeb relevance, stub IndieWeb Examples section - no known at this time" (view diff)
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[tantek] few minutes behind that timer
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[tantek] 25 minutes until pomodoro timer rings — for wikifying some more, part 6
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Loqi I added a countdown scheduled for 2023-10-01 6:44pm PDT (#7057)
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tantek.com edited /notification_fatigue (+105) "form of information overload" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /notification_fatigue (+1) "/* See Also */ https" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /notification_fatigue (+75) "SA MFA notification fatigue attack" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /push_notification (+279) "/* IndieWeb Examples */ move an example here from the notification page" (view diff)
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Loqi pomodoro timer rings — for wikifying some more, part 6
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tantek.com edited /push_notification (+24) "reduce heading levels at top level, add Software Examples, Previous Examples" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /notification (-399) "/* Push Notifications */ move examples to push notifications page, leave main etc. links behind" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /notification_fatigue (-4) "adjust some dfn links" (view diff)
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[tantek] few minutes over again
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aaronpk I just read this for the first time https://libera.chat/news/matrix-bridge-disabled-retrospective
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aaronpk This explains the matrix instability earlier this year
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[tantek] at least there's some hope for a future bridge: "Third party bridges remain welcome and will be judged individually if concerns arise"
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aaronpk I'm going to need to stay more on top of this stuff in order to make sure there are no problems with the slack or discord bridges
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[tantek] 25 minutes until pomodoro timer rings — for wikifying some more, part 7
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Loqi I added a countdown scheduled for 2023-10-01 9:03pm PDT (#7058)
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tantek.com edited /notification_fatigue (+324) "distinguish alarm fatigue as a worse form" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /alarm_fatigue (+14) "frag redir" (view diff)
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Loqi pomodoro timer rings — for wikifying some more, part 7
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tantek.com edited /notification (-37) "copyedit dfn pt 1" (view diff)
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[tantek] 25 minutes until pomodoro timer rings — for wikifying some more, part 8
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Loqi I added a countdown scheduled for 2023-10-01 10:01pm PDT (#7059)
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[catgirlinspace] that is a lot of timers.
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[tantek] lots of wiki edits
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tantek.com edited /notification (+75) "make dfn more user-centric, move developer perspective to its own paragraph" (view diff)
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Loqi pomodoro timer rings — for wikifying some more, part 8
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tantek.com edited /push_notification (+67) "add IndieWeb relevance to dfn and copyedit" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /indieweb-messaging (+0) "-r" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /notification (+3) "/* Individual */ fix indie messaging link" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /notification (+91) "/* Why */ sort individual use-cases a bit, warn about notification fatigue" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /push_notification (+703) "move a Why not specific to push here from the notifications page" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /notification () "(-585) move a specific why not to push notifications" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /push_notification (+426) "move Why Not: Distraction from main notification page to here because it is specific to push" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /notification (-342) "move Why Not: Distraction from main notification page to push notification page because it is specific to push" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /push_notification (+0) "/* See Also */ sort other pages before articles/quotes" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /notification_fatigue (+504) "/* See Also */ move a fatigue related notification see also to this page" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /push_notification (-349) "/* See Also */ move a fatigue related notification see also to the fatigue page" (view diff)
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[tantek] still sifting the boundaries between those three pages
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tantek.com edited /push_notification (+2122) "move non-fatigue criticisms here from the fatigue page, merge why not into Criticism section, How to turn off with WIRED article" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /notification (+60) "move SA to-do into context" (view diff)
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[catgirlinspace] gonna be a busy week ig?
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tantek.com edited /notification_fatigue () "(-2006) moved non-fatigue-specific articles to push notification criticism" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /notification_fatigue (+61) "web instead of native apps for fewer notifications" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /push_notification (+179) "clearer why use-cases for push notifications" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /notification_fatigue (-17) "/* Articles */ dedup date" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /notification (+30) "/* Why */ timely use-cases are also push notification use-cases" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /notification (+10) "prev examples" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /notification (+10) "Previous Silo Examples" (view diff)
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gRegor Heh, that was a cool use of Loqi for pomodoro
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gregorlove.com edited /FlightAware (+260) "relevance in dfn, +aaronpk example with since-at-least based on note" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /Matrix (+217) "note bridge shutdown in dfn" (view diff)
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www.svenknebel.de edited /Matrix (+128) "indieweb channels currently not bridged" (view diff)
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www.svenknebel.de edited /Matrix (-75) "remove mention of indieweb channel bridge in dfn" (view diff)
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sknebel gRegor: whops, overlapping edits
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sknebel I dont think the details of when the bridge was removed need to be in the dfn?
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gRegor No worries. Maybe not, but thought it would be worthwhile mentioning we had a bridge but don't currently. It's on /discuss, so maybe that's enough
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sknebel (fwiw there seems to be some vague activity regarding the bridge being re-enabled maybe, but timeline in months)
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gRegor Oh I see it in the IW examples section now
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[tantek] Thanks gRegor. I figured since it was literally for IndieWeb /wikifying it was an ok use of the channel (which was otherwise quiet anyway except for Loqi's wiki edits reporting)
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Loqi you're welcome
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[tantek] My (optimistic) hope was that it might encourage others to join in for a pomodoro or two but maybe next time
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gRegor Loqi is your name gRegor?
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[tantek] wat. that was weird
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[tantek] gives Loqi a an overly broad regex
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Loqi hearts the an overly broad regex
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gRegor lol
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[tantek] knew it
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gRegor https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pomodoro_Technique if anyone isn't familiar
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[tantek] oooh I wonder if anyone uses their personal site for countdown timers and push notifications for alerting when a timer is up
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[tantek] use-case: start the timer on one device (laptop) and see the push notification on another (smart watch)
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[tantek] what is a timer
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "timer" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "timer is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[tantek] what is an alarm
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "alarm" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "alarm is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[tantek] It would be a good test of how much you trust your push notifications setup
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gRegor I've not done pomodoro in quite a while unfortunately, but I'd usually use Google Assistant "start a timer for 25 minutes". Or before that the web app https://tomatoi.st/, though I recall that one having some rough edges
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[tantek] is the Google Assistant smart enough to notify you across devices? or is it local-to-device timer only?
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gRegor device-only I think, though maybe there's a Chrome integration, haven't checked.
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loqi.me created /countdown (+460) "prompted by [tantek] and dfn added by [tantek]" (view diff)
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[tantek] I'm on a roll with new pages this week and it's only Monday
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loqi.me edited /countdown (+41) "[tantek] added "[[push notification]]" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /live_video (+62) "stub IndieWeb Examples with aaronpk" (view diff)
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loqi.me created /going_live (+23) "prompted by [tantek] and redirect added by [tantek]" (view diff)
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loqi.me created /live_broadcast (+23) "prompted by [tantek] and redirect added by [tantek]" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /countdown (+614) "incorporate SAs into new sections, add one device then another use-case, copyedit & finish dfn" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /countdown (+19) "/* prototype as special event */ clarify recipient" (view diff)
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tantek.com created /charter (+24) "closest we have" (view diff)
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gRegor Not quite a countdown, but YouTube has "premieres" which you can click "Notify Me", shows the date and time of the premiere and will notify you in the app.
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gRegor I've seen it for music video releases and I think for upcoming livestreams
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gRegor what is premiere
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "premiere" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "premiere is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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gRegor what is livestream
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Loqi https://indieweb.org/livestream
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gRegor what is live streaming
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Loqi live streaming is the practice of streaming media (mostly audio or video) in realtime from a camera and/or microphone, rather than a recording https://indieweb.org/live_streaming
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gregorlove.com edited /livestream (+10) "fix double redirect" (view diff)
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gRegor what is livestream
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Loqi live streaming is the practice of streaming media (mostly audio or video) in realtime from a camera and/or microphone, rather than a recording https://indieweb.org/livestream