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2023-10-29 UTC
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vanderven.se martijn
edited /2023/Nuremberg/Schedule (+18) "/* Saturday */ Hide zoom links"
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Zegnat
If we want to go that way with the mf2 issues, we should definitely try and get something on the calendar. Whether it is monthly or quarterly or whatever. Having a date to plan towards is nice.
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vanderven.se martijn
created /2023/Nuremberg/gettingstarted (+4036) "Slowly start archiving."
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vanderven.se martijn
created /2023/Nuremberg/govpub (+141) "No notes to archive :("
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Zegnat
All 9 sessions from Nürnberg yesterday now have their wiki pages! (And they are the only session pages for 2023?!) https://indieweb.org/Category:2023_sessions
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Zegnat
Feel free to add photos, links, etc. Currently they are all just straight copies from the etherpads (where available)
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Zegnat
govpub did not have any etherpad notes. I am not sure if the session happened or not, or if notes might have been taken elsewhere, but they are not there.
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[tantek]
Zegnat, yes this is the first (only?) IndieWebCamp of 2023
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sknebel
I guess popup notes could kinda count as "sessions"?
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[tantek]
good question. how have they been categorized in previous years? like since pop-ups started?
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[tantek]
what is Mattermost
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "Mattermost" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "Mattermost is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[tantek]
Mattermost is https://mattermost.com/ an open source alternative to chat services like [[Slack]] that {{jkphl}} uses with his team at [[tollwerk]], and he recommends that the IndieWeb community setup our own instance to use as another chat alternative bridged to [[IRC]].
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loqi.me
created /Mattermost (+298) "prompted by [tantek] and dfn added by [tantek]"
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Loqi
[Event Updated] calumryan.com updated "Oct 28 - 29, 2023 IndieWebCamp Nuremberg 2023" changed meeting_url https://events.indieweb.org/event/508/history/1470/diff
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Loqi
[Event Updated] calumryan.com updated "Oct 28 - 29, 2023 IndieWebCamp Nuremberg 2023" changed https://events.indieweb.org/event/508/history/1471/diff
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[tantek]
^ GWG, sgreger, barnaby, capjamesg and anyone else that wants to hack along from home!
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sgreger
[calumryan]: Thanks for setting up the Zoom session!
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sgreger
…and good morning all :)
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sarajaksa.eu
edited /2023/Nuremberg/a11y (+10) "correcting the spelling mistakes based on browser spell checker"
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tantek.com
edited /Falcon (+945) "/* Working On */ move redesign post webactions to top, document two goals"
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bjoern.stierand.org
edited /User:Bjoern.stierand.org (+195) "/* Björn Stierand */ update personal information & plans for Digital Garden"
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[bjoern]
Managed to login into the Wiki again (with some crude hack, but hey, it works). 🙂
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[bjoern]
Finished the first of my two tasks for today
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vanderven.se martijn
edited /309 (+108) "Move to previous examples"
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tantek.com
edited /discuss (-2) "move IndieWeb Pleasures graphic to the top because it is too cool, move TOC down"
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[tantek]
!tell aaronpk does Loqi auto-deploy updates to the http://chat.indieweb.org app / archives repo?
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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paulrobertlloyd.com
edited /logo (+178) "Add logo made from leaves"
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paulrobertlloyd.com
edited /logo (-30) "Use icon from GitHub organisation"
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tantek.com
edited /to-do_list (+76) "IndieWeb Examples section"
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bjoern.stierand.org
edited /Obsidian (+155) "add reference to Obsidian Digital Garden plugin"
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tantek.com
edited /to-do_list (+645) "IndieWeb Wiki Examples section for those of us using the IndieWeb wiki as our to-do list for IndieWeb related things, with wiki to-do and myself as examples"
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tantek.com
edited /MediaWiki (+282) "disambig link at top to our MediaWiki customizations, add Features section, move IndieWeb Support as a subset"
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sarajaksa.eu
edited /2023/Nuremberg/write (+9406) "Adding additional notes and some connected thinking based on the yesterday session"
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tantek.com
edited /MediaWiki (+280) "move Building Block Proposals as a subsection of Features, move IndieWeb Examples up a bit, stub a How to section"
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tantek.com
edited /MediaWiki (+34) "+ how to edit this wiki to how to contribute"
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vanderven.se martijn
edited /easter_egg (+364) "/* Martijn van der Ven */ Add very old fourth easter egg that had done completely forgotten"
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sebastiangreger.net
created /VersaTiles (+325) "Create stub"
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sebastiangreger.net
edited /OpenMapTiles (+21) "crosslink to VersaTiles"
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paulrobertlloyd.com
created /Building_block_icons (+2109) "Stub out initial page"
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loqi.me
created /IWC_NUR (+27) "prompted by [tantek] and redirect added by [tantek]"
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vanderven.se martijn
edited /2023/Nuremberg/Schedule (+155) "/* Photos */ Sunday planning"
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tantek.com
edited /activity (+71) "see also"
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tantek.com
edited /MediaWiki_customizations (+1374) "add Brainstorming / Issues section to note current problems, exploration of switching to Vector 2022"
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paulrobertlloyd.com
created /Template:Color_sample (+332) "Create color sample template"
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paulrobertlloyd.com
created /Indieweb_color_palette (+849) "Document IndieWeb color palette, using colors taken from logo"
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paulrobertlloyd.com
created /Category:Branding (+82) "Create branding category"
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tantek.com
edited /MediaWiki_customizations (+34) "/* editable customizations */ add Vector.css file"
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[tantek]
!tell aaronpk can you give me User:http://tantek.com edit permissions (not sure which "Group" you need to add me to) to edit the two .css "pages" listed here? https://indieweb.org/MediaWiki_customizations#editable_customizations — I'd like to see if I can fix the existing Vector theme on mobile with some additional CSS. Pretty sure I can do it.
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Loqi
[preview] Tantek Çelik
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[tantek]
!tell aaronpk note that I used to be able to edit Common.css as recently as 2021: https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Common.css&action=history
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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tantek.com
created /Template:barnaby (+18) "barnaby is barnabywalters"
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aaronpk
no i don't think the chat logs auto deploy
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Loqi
aaronpk: [tantek] left you a message 2 hours, 52 minutes ago: does Loqi auto-deploy updates to the http://chat.indieweb.org app / archives repo?
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Loqi
aaronpk: [tantek] left you a message 1 hour, 13 minutes ago: can you give me User:http://tantek.com edit permissions (not sure which "Group" you need to add me to) to edit the two .css "pages" listed here? https://indieweb.org/MediaWiki_customizations#editable_customizations — I'd like to see if I can fix the existing Vector theme on mobile with some additional CSS. Pretty sure I can do it.
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Loqi
aaronpk: [tantek] left you a message 1 hour, 10 minutes ago: note that I used to be able to edit Common.css as recently as 2021: https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Common.css&action=history
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aaronpk
just manually deployed chat.indieweb.org
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aaronpk
hmm, I don't even have edit permissions to Common.css
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aaronpk
looks like there were some new fine grained permissions for editing css added https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:User_rights
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aaronpk
[tantek]: ok i just added 'editsitecss' permission to all users so you should see an edit button now
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[tantek]
woo hoo!
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[tantek]
"all users" lolsob
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paulrobertlloyd.com
edited /Building_block_icons (+197) "Add existing IndieAuth icons"
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aaronpk
we haven't ever managed separate user permissions for admins so why start now
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sknebel
aaronpk: sidebar afaik has it? or had it at least
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loqi.me
created /how_open_source_projects_tell_you_to_sod_off (+107) "prompted by [tantek] and dfn added by [tantek]"
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paulrobertlloyd.com
edited /Building_block_icons (+199) "Add existing Webmention icons"
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aaronpk
hm, yes it looks like me and tantek are the only users with administrator rights in the wiki
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paulrobertlloyd.com
edited /Building_block_icons (+132) "Add existing Micropub icon"
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aaronpk
weird because admins already had editsitecss
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aaronpk
oh wait no that was the change, MW split out editinterface and editsitecss
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aaronpk
and there's a new group of users called "interface administrators'
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paulrobertlloyd.com
edited /Building_block_icons (+132) "Add existing Microsub icon"
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[tantek]
yes was going to say, Sidebar has had it for a while
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aaronpk
ok i moved it to Administrators to get back to what we had before the new user role
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paulrobertlloyd.com
edited /Building_block_icons (+146) "Add existing Websub icon"
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aaronpk
new interface admin role is a cool idea tho
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tantek.com
edited /2023/Nuremberg (+168) "/* Organizers */ +adactio for session grid, +gwg for session recodings & cropping & archiving"
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paulrobertlloyd.com
edited /Building_block_icons (+730) "Add proposed Microformat icons"
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aaronparecki.com
edited /Building_block_icons (+0) "/* Icons in current usage */ fix link"
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aaronpk
is there a break coming up soon? I just fixed a bug in the slack gateway but I don't want to interrupt current convos by restarting it
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Zegnat
No planned breaks, it is just hack day at the moment, aaronpk
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GWG
When are demos again, in relation to now?
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GWG
A man in overalls is trying to snake my trap and I don't want to miss them
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aaronpk
ok hold on to your hats
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aaronpk
and back
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sknebel
75 minutes until demos
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Loqi
I added a countdown scheduled for 2023-10-29 4:35pm CET (#7068)
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sknebel
cc GWG
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GWG
Thank you.
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paulrobertlloyd.com
edited /Building_block_icons (+559) "Add proposal for concept icons"
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paulrobertlloyd.com
edited /Building_block_icons (+505) "Add proposal for IndieAuth icon"
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paulrobertlloyd.com
edited /Building_block_icons (+516) "Add proposal for Micropub icon"
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paulrobertlloyd.com
edited /Building_block_icons (+513) "Add proposal for Microsub icon"
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paulrobertlloyd.com
edited /Building_block_icons (+647) "Add proposal for Webmention and Vouch icons"
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tantek.com
edited /discuss (+106) "shorter id attrs for the Join via headings"
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Loqi
demos
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Loqi
Countdown set by sknebel on 2023-10-29 at 3:20pm CET
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paulrobertlloyd.com
edited /Building_block_icons (+781) "Add initial feedback in 2023 icon proposal"
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sknebel
GWG ^^^ if you want to watch demos
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sknebel
sgreger: ^^^
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GWG
Already in
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sgreger
sknebel: Thanks, watching (and even going to show something)
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GWG
I want to put more event stuff on the event calendar. Will anyone partner with me so at least 2 people show up?
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Zegnat
Food discussion! Dinner for after IWC, we are thinking 19:00.
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Zegnat
Alternative 2: ... undecided, something franconian
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Zegnat
Alternative 1: https://www.kaspar-schmauser.de/ - vegan sallads and bowls
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[tantek]
I'll be going to Kaspar myself
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[tantek]
We're going to make IWC DUS 2024-05-11..12 happen one way or another.
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[tantek]
Let's create wiki stub pages
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[tantek]
Right before btconf DUS 2024-05-13..14
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GWG
I've never been to DUS either.
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[tantek]
And also IWC 2024-11-09..10 right after btconf Berlin 2024-11-07..08
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GWG
[tantek]: Any luck in the western hemisphere?
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[tantek]
GWG, got any venue suggestions for any western hemisphere cities?
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GWG
Venues are always my stumbling point.
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paulrobertlloyd.com
created /Template:Color_sample/doc (+1199) "Document Color sample template"
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paulrobertlloyd.com
created /Template:Documentation (+151) "Copy Documentation template tag from Wikipedia"
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paulrobertlloyd.com
deleted /Template:Documentation "content was: "{{#invoke:documentation|main|_content={{ {{#invoke:documentation|contentTitle}}}}}}<noinclude> <!-- Add categories to the /doc subpage --> </noinclude>", and the only contributor was "[[Special:Contributions/Paulrobertlloyd.com|Paulrobertlloyd.com]]" ([[User talk:Paulrobertlloyd.com|talk]])"
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paulrobertlloyd.com
deleted /Template:Color_sample/doc "content was: "{{Documentation subpage}} == Usage == === Color === * <code><nowiki>{{Color sample|red}}</nowiki></code> → {{Color sample|red}} * <code><nowiki>{{Color sample|#00FF00}}</nowiki></code> → {{Color sample|#00FF00}} * <code><nowiki>{{Color sample|#00FF00|description=green}}</nowiki></code> → {{Color sample|#...", and the only contributor was "[[Special:Contributions/Paulrobertlloyd.com|Paulrobertlloyd.com]]" ([[User talk:Paulrobertlloyd.com|talk]])"
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calumryan.com
edited /2023/Nuremberg/Schedule (+391) "/* Photos */"
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[tantek]
Might recommend some more event-specific upload file names :)
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sarajaksa.eu
edited /2023/Nuremberg/write (+201) "Add The Most Dangerous Writing App as another app to try"
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sarajaksa.eu
edited /2023/Nuremberg/write (+169) "Adding participants from memory"
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tantek.com
edited /Building_block_icons (+213) "dfn use name of page, summarize page, copy edit intro and use-cases, bold key audiences for use-cases, more consistent use of IndieWeb"
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[tantek]
[Paul_Robert_Ll] ^ some (hopefully) minor improvements. take a look