#meta 2023-11-06

2023-11-06 UTC
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gregorlove.com edited /Ticketing_for_IndieAuth (+133) "/* Discovery */ spec links, code markup, minor update for clarity" (view diff)
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david.shanske.com edited /Ticketing_for_IndieAuth (+20) "/* Discovery */" (view diff)
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david.shanske.com edited /Ticketing_for_IndieAuth (+290) "/* Discovery */" (view diff)
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Loqi [github] Error deploying aaronpk/indielogin.com to https://indielogin.com
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[tantek] 👀
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aaronpk i pushed a fix for github logins to look at all the new "social profile" URLs
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aaronpk but something is borked with the ruby install on the server so the deploy failed
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aaronpk hm ruby is super broken, i'm just gonna disable pgp logins, looks like it wasn't working for some people anyway
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Loqi [github] Successfully deployed aaronpk/indielogin.com to https://indielogin.com
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Loqi [github] Successfully deployed aaronpk/indielogin.com to https://indielogin.com
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barnaby I really liked using PGP logins, but at some point it stopped working and using GH was quicker and easier anyway
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Loqi [github] Successfully deployed aaronpk/indielogin.com to https://indielogin.com
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Loqi [github] Successfully deployed aaronpk/indielogin.com to https://indielogin.com
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Loqi [github] Successfully deployed aaronpk/indielogin.com to https://indielogin.com
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Loqi [github] Successfully deployed aaronpk/indielogin.com to https://indielogin.com
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aaronpk yeah it's a cool idea in theory, but very fringe, and turns out lots of edge cases to worry about that end up causing more trouble than it's worth
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aaronpk ok all indielogin.com issues triaged with the exception of client ID registration requests
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aaronpk now I have to figure out what my policy is for letting others use it
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[schmarty] aaronpk++
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Loqi aaronpk has 29 karma in this channel over the last year (116 in all channels)
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Loqi [github] Successfully deployed aaronpk/indielogin.com to https://indielogin.com
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[schmarty] interesting stuff happening in the Matrix ecosystem, it seems. development of the main Matrix server software is moving from the Foundation under Apache V2 license to the Element company under the AGPL v3 license, requiring downstream folks who modify it to release their changes as open source... https://element.io/blog/element-to-adopt-agplv3/
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aaronpk well that sounds fishy
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aaronpk "In other words, ‘Matrix-based’ is now specified as a requirement in massive public and private sector tenders" 😮 who?
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sknebel its used by a bunch of government services in europe, so its not too surprising that interop with it is a thing thats required
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sknebel (and of course the "we retain right to license as we wish"-part of the AGPL move means any competitor now has to make a deal with them or make the customer understand and accept AGPL-compliance, they dont...)
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aaronpk Aha so it lets them make private modifications?
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sknebel and not deal with compliance in general
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[schmarty] right, Element gets to say "this is AGPL so you release your modifications" but as the primary maintainers they can do their own modifications without releasing them if they wish.
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[schmarty] hmm. actually i'm not sure about that. depends on what outside contributors are agreeing to. if an outside contributor licenses AGPL then Element can't extend that work without also releasing their mods.
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sknebel thats why they require a CLA from contributors
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[tantek] That does sound fishy, especially in terms of the conflation between OSS and open protocols supposedly defined by said OSS. monoculture--
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Loqi [[Micro.blog]] https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Micro.blog&diff=1183800523&oldid=prev Fudduladka at 15:56, 6 November 2023
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Loqi [[Micro.blog]] https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Micro.blog&diff=1183800431&oldid=prev Fudduladka at 15:55, 6 November 2023
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Loqi [[Micro.blog]] https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Micro.blog&diff=1183800361&oldid=prev Fudduladka at 15:55, 6 November 2023
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aaronpk oh gosh
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jacky.wtf edited /Koype (+1) "change goal of project" (view diff)
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[schmarty] 🎉 jacky++
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Loqi jacky has 3 karma in this channel over the last year (50 in all channels)
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gregorlove.com edited /GitLab (+810) "+Issues, loss of data, citation" (view diff)
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[tantek] That's a bullshiy change. If it's actually accurate to rename references to Twitter to X then they'd rename the page to "X_(service)" or something
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[tantek] (On the Wikipedia http://micro.blog article)
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gRegor Yeah, numerous discussions on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Twitter
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Loqi [preview] OwenBlacker
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gRegor Found the wikipedian with an hCard
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[KevinMarks] Owen's a good 'un
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gregorlove.com edited /Semantic_Linkbacks (+274) "past tense dfn, link to WP webmention plugin, warning template" (view diff)
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loqi.me created /indieblocks.xyz (+24) "prompted by gRegor and redirect added by gRegor" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /IndieBlocks (+27) "link dfn" (view diff)
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