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[tantek] ok I'm going to try to garden the 100days page to be (more) inclusive of 100posts style and other durations / streaks
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[tantek] suggestions welcome
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gRegor what is challenge
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Loqi challenge is an event-like post which serves as a (typically open) invitation for people to post achievements towards some goal, like running a total distance, or posting photos at some frequency (every day), supported by silos like Strava and micro.blog https://indieweb.org/challenge
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gRegor I like "challenge" and thing that's a pretty common term for it. ^That dfn seems more narrow, like challenge-invitation, a post about the challenge itself, not a post participating in it.
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gRegor *think
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gRegor I've definitely had to go way down that page to the 30 days section to find my own past example, haha
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[tantek] yeah hence I'm trying to re-organize
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[tantek] as in many examples, simplifying and copy editing for easier finding, discovery, browsing is often one of the hardest parts of evolving / growing content
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[tantek] once you get good enough at writing long posts, the skills of editing are the next hard thing to develop, especially if your intent is to communicate with others (including your future self), especially collaborate on a shared resource (including with your future self)
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[tantek] or if you want to blog in a write-only braindump long streams of thoughts sort of personal journal way, that's fine too, but a different thing
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tantek.com edited /100_days (+446) "broaden dfn to challenges like 100 days, given similarities and adjacencies and documentation of a variety of similar on this page already, merge separate how tos in a summary/general and details" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /100_days (+7) "move TOC down" (view diff)
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[tantek] sometimes it takes multiple passes. cluster similar/redundant information in a re-organizing pass, then do detailed rewriting/merging of each cluster in separate passes
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[tantek] I mean in general, the smaller the pass the better (lower cognitive load to complete each pass), and it allows taking a break and allowing/encouraging others to also take small passes
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tantek.com edited /100_days (-144) "move inspo to intro, de-dupe some how to prose, cluster some how tos, subheads, bold key phrases, simplify overview further" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /100_days (+59) "/* 2018 */ jgmac1106 example 404" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /100_days (+176) "brainstorming 100 things rather than 100 days since they could be done either one day at a time or a total number in a longer duration" (view diff)
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[tantek] ^ ok that's it for updating that page for now.
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[tantek] wow bunch of pages with high edits — need at least 5 edits to get on the most edited pages
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tantek.com edited /100_days (+159) "/* Brainstorming */ add more 100 things from suggestions I made to this week's HWC London/EU" (view diff)
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[tantek] capjamesg, any contributions to add to the one new wiki page of the week? 😄 https://indieweb.org/large_language_model
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tantek.com edited /large_language_model (+50) "aaronpk global site footer e.g. home page, resort" (view diff)
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[tantek] aaronpk, your site footer needs an ID so we can link to it in examples 🙂
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aaronpk heh
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c​apjamesg The button fits in well on your site aaronpk!
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[tantek] Lyric citation permashortlinks would be amazing for swiftbot capjamesg
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c​apjamesg [tantek] Say more and it could be done!
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c​apjamesg I agree.
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[tantek] Step one would be to find canonical URLs for ts lyrics
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[tantek] I'd say make such URLs but I have a feeling that might not survive copyright takedowns
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c​apjamesg This looks quite difficult...
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c​apjamesg I can't find a source.
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c​apjamesg Genius.com I suppose but I'd have to build a manual mapping and I couldn't link to the specific line.
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[Jo] Hm maybe a youtube link to the specific time the lyrics are sung?
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[tantek] That sounds like a lot of work to compile into a database 😆
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[tantek] Also amazing
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c​apjamesg If only I had my radio station license.
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c​apjamesg I could broadcast the lyric when someone clicked on it.
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[Joe_Crawford] https://www.musixmatch.com is the provider for lyric + time sync data for Spotify. Artist data and much more is on https://musicbrainz.org
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c​apjamesg The Musixmatch API doesn't look good.
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c​apjamesg You get 30% of a song's lyrics for free.
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[Joe_Crawford] Commercial as heck, I'm guessing
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c​apjamesg https://developer.musixmatch.com/plans
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[Joe_Crawford] The lyrics thing Spotify has is nice. It's bittersweet though because a staff developer also at Slacker Radio - flash programmer - got "Karaoke Mode" working for playback on the web (back when the player on the web was Flash, before html5 was better supported) - in basically a day. We had a lot of the lyric data in our song metadata. Nobody wanted to pursue it.
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[Joe_Crawford] Was like magic to suddenly see this hack working for many songs. But our lyrics license I guess was written very tightly and doing more wasn't something anyone wanted to do.
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[Joe_Crawford] James, API plans like that are like the old Oracle pricing strategy. Basically they hold you upside down and shake you until money stops falling out of your pcokets.
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gRegor heh
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sknebel (one would think that artists might want to put their lyrics on their website for their fans instead of sending them to ad-infested places. one would think so....)
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[KevinMarks] Can you search the YouTube versions by lyric?
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c​apjamesg I don't know.
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c​apjamesg Is there an easy way to get the captions?
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tantek.com edited /PKCE (+23) "dfn grammar, link IndieAuth, not an extension to IndieAuth since IndieAuth has incorporated it" (view diff)
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aaronpk soon it won't be an extension of OAuth either!
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tantek.com edited /PKCE (+19) "link term to its RFC, note RFC in dfn" (view diff)