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Loqi [[Comparison_of_software_and_protocols_for_distributed_social_networking]] https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Comparison_of_software_and_protocols_for_distributed_social_networking&diff=1194056477&oldid=prev BD2412: /* Dead or stalled projects */clean up spacing around commas and other punctuation fixes, replaced: ; → ;
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loqi.me created /Custom_emoji (+156) "prompted by sknebel and dfn added by sknebel" (view diff)
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www.svenknebel.de moved /Custom_emoji to /custom_emoji "non-caps"
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www.svenknebel.de edited /custom_emoji (+987) "init, some details about Fediverse/bridgy" (view diff)
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loqi.me edited /custom_emoji (+57) "sknebel added "silo examples: Twitch, Slack, Discord" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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www.svenknebel.de edited /custom_emoji (+142) "/* Fediverse */" (view diff)
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www.svenknebel.de edited /custom_emoji (+109) "question: bridgy fed support?" (view diff)
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www.svenknebel.de edited /custom_emoji (+0) "whops, template doesnt have cap" (view diff)
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sknebel (does the indieweb slack have any custom emoji configured?)
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Zegnat Yes
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sknebel screenshot plz for the article? :)
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Zegnat One sec
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vanderven.se martijn uploaded /File:customs.png "Custom emojis configured in the IndieWeb Slack channel 2024-01-07 https://indieweb.org/File:customs.png"
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Zegnat There you go!
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www.svenknebel.de edited /custom_emoji (+135) "Slack" (view diff)
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sknebel thats an ... interesting selection
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Zegnat Not sure how it is decided who can add custom emoji. I can access the panel to create a new one, but I cannot remove others.
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www.svenknebel.de edited /custom_emoji (+113) "add image of custom slack emoji" (view diff)
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www.svenknebel.de edited /custom_emoji (+163) "add link to viewer tool" (view diff)
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[tantek] wow those are some odd custom emojis for the IndieWeb Slack. one of them I need to remove immediately though.
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[tantek] actually a bunch 😬
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aaronpk oh dear
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[tantek] ok cleaned up a bit. some of them are from a default expansion pack not custom to this Slack instance
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sknebel does that mean you cant remove them?
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sknebel (we also should replace that screenshot image then)
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aaronpk i'm just going to turn off custom emoji since the gateway doesn't translate those anyway
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sknebel 👍
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www.svenknebel.de deleted /File:customs.png "not using custom emoji anymore"
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www.svenknebel.de edited /custom_emoji (-110) "remove image" (view diff)
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www.svenknebel.de edited /custom_emoji (+247) "Discord" (view diff)
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www.svenknebel.de edited /custom_emoji (+55) "/* Fediverse */ also usable in names" (view diff)
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[tantek] aaronpk SGTM
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[tantek] I have no idea where the Doom emojis came from
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sknebel yeah, weird set. those might have been a default from looong ago
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sknebel (i.e. I doubt slack would roll out such a default today, but we have been using for a long time)
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sknebel also: yay managed to immediately wiki-dump most of a pile of tabs instead of letting tabs sediment ;)
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Loqi 😊
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sknebel maybe I should do a 100 days of closing 20 tabs a day :P
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[tantek] +1
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[tantek] tabs--
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Loqi tabs has -1 karma over the last year
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aaronpk hey tabs are great when you consider the alternative of no tabs
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sknebel yep
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[tantek] aaronpk yes, and I also really appreciate the zero tabs of Firefox Focus. Like there's a whole class of pages I open where I’m ok if they get pushed down the stack in the history instead of opening new tabs
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tantek.com edited /100_days (+650) "/* Brainstorming */ re-organize a few items, add a few items" (view diff)
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loqi.me created /Revue (+29) "prompted by gRegor and redirect added by gRegor" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /newsletter (+79) "/* Revue */ past tense, shutdown link" (view diff)
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www.svenknebel.de edited /custom_emoji (+1742) "expand: Twitch, early examples, patterns" (view diff)
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lumen.pink created /User:Lumen.pink (+575) "Created page with "= [http://lumen.pink Lumen "Pink" Lohn Freitas] = __NOTITLE__ {{Infobox person |name = Lumen "Pink" Lohn Freitas |url = https://lumen.pink/ |photo_url = https://lumen.pink/images/thumb250.jpg |summary = Lumen Pink is a Brazilian developer and network engineer |elsewhere = [https://twitter.com/lumenpink Twitter] [https://github.com/lumenpink GitHub] [https://instagram.com/lumenpink Instagram] [https://bsky.app/profile/lumen.pink BlueSky] |contact = email:hi@lumen.pink }}..."" (view diff)
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[tantek] How many colors have TLDs now what?
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[Jo] pink, black, orange, blue, green, red are the ones i know
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c​apjamesg What about red?
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c​apjamesg If “red” exists, Ms. Swift should own it.
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c​apjamesg There would be so many good domains to register.
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c​apjamesg Sorry, I didn’t realize you also said red [Jo].
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[Jo] Red exists!
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[Jo] Yea, no problem
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c​apjamesg Nooooo.
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c​apjamesg Someone took my idea.
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c​apjamesg “lovinghimwas.red”
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c​apjamesg Registered in 2015.
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[Jo] Haha interesting website
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c​apjamesg Haha amazing.
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c​apjamesg I wish they it better colour contrast.
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[tantek] what do folks think of the Wikipedia home page and its various modules? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page
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[tantek] asking in #indieweb-meta because I'm wondering if it would benefit our home page if we had some auto-updating (once a day) modules like that on our home page
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[tantek] (though Wikipedia's modules are at least somewhat curated, I'm pretty sure I could come up with algorithms to come up with decent automation for the IndieWeb wiki, because our content is much more constrained)
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[tantek] Today's Featured Article could literally a page at random that meets a few thresholds (min number of edits, min length of content, min number of editors)
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[tantek] In the News could be from the past 7 days (rolling) from IndieNews
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[tantek] Did you know ... is harder, because I think it requires some combination of interestingness / usefulness, and extraction of a fact from an existing wiki page. That's going to take some time (and may be an AI-hard problem 😂 )
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[tantek] On this day could be automated from the [[timeline]] (though we would need a lot more things in our timeline to get something for every day)
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[tantek] Today's featured picture ... would need better tagging of images uploaded to the wiki, to indicate that they were photos, or maybe we could auto-pick from individual IndieWebCamp pages "Photos" sections — that might work. Though we'd need enough summary text copy to accompany the photo, and I'm not sure we have that.
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tantek.com edited /2022/Create/September (+11) "counts as a virtual IndieWebCamp" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /2022/Create/December (+11) "counts as a virtual IndieWebCamp" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /2023/Create/November (+3) "counts as a virtual IndieWebCamp" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /2023/Create/December (+19) "counts as a virtual IndieWebCamp" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Create_Day (+9) "note template" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Create_Day (+45) "demo session is a key piece" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Template:IndieWebCamp (+9) "Create Days count as Online IndieWebCamps since they are multi-topic, in contrast to single topic Popups" (view diff)
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[tantek] wow we have held 77 IndieWebCamps! (including online IndieWebCamps/CreateDays)
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[tantek] if my math is correct
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[tantek] 59 in-person IndieWebCamps I think
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[tantek] 61 in-person IndieWebCamps! we had a few years with 2x in some cities!
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GWG Where to next?
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[tantek] to-do << Go through past [[IndieWebCamps]]/[[cities]] individual camp pages, for each that has a "Photos" section (each should!), expand dfn to summary of the camp & stats, location including city state (if any) country, nth camp overall, nth in-person (or nth online), nth in country, nth in city/region (e.g. LA as one city region), n total number of participants (remote-only in parens), n sessions (link), n hours of sessions, n hours of
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[tantek] recordings (link to playlist of all sessions), keynotes (if any) on topics 1 2 3 (linked recordings) by keynoters A B C (linked personal sites), finishing with n demos
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Loqi ok, I added "Go through past [[IndieWebCamps]]/[[cities]] individual camp pages, for each that has a "Photos" section (each should!), expand dfn to summary of the camp & stats, location including city state (if any) country, nth camp overall, nth in-person (or nth online), nth in country, nth in city/region (e.g. LA as one city region), n total number of participants (remote-only in parens), n sessions (link), n hours of sessions, n hours of" to the "See Also" section of /to-do https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=92032&oldid=91978
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tantek.com edited /to-do (+168) "finish addition" (view diff)
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[tantek] GWG good question
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[tantek] when is next IWC?
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[tantek] GWG, according to https://indieweb.org/Planning#2024 and https://events.indieweb.org/tag/indiewebcamp, Düsseldorf in May!
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[tantek] we just need to find a confirmed venue and then we can setup all the ticketing etc.
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GWG Don't forget Sacramento with Pablo
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[tantek] GWG, needs co-organizers to make it happen, right now I'm only mentioning what's "next" as those having co-organizers on /Planning
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GWG Okay, we'll see where it goes
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[tantek] GWG indeed! Every IndieWebCamp planning starts with one organizer!
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[tantek] GWG, what do you think is a good frequency / cadence for Create Days?
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[tantek] Or is better to tie them to specific seasons / events like you did last year with Build Not Buy and the Dec 25 Create Day?
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c​apjamesg Düsseldorf is in May...?
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c​apjamesg Hm. I should be able to make it!
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[tantek] GWG, WDYT of another March create day like in 2022? That one went quite well! Perhaps a Personal Site Spring Cleanup theme?
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[tantek] capjamesg yes! that's the plan!
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c​apjamesg Yay!
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Loqi yay!
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c​apjamesg > Perhaps a Personal Site Spring Cleanup theme? - I love this.
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c​apjamesg I have cleanup to do.
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[tantek] yeah!
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c​apjamesg Categories to fix, typos to fix, comments in my HTML to add, JS to remove, etc.
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[tantek] these are great suggestions for inspiration capjamesg! want to stub a page to get started? /2024/Create/March ?
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c​apjamesg I started watching Contact around two hours ago and I'm under 30 mins in.
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c​apjamesg Which is to say I got distracted 😂
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c​apjamesg I'm going to try and watch some of the movie now.
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c​apjamesg But yes, I will create that page!
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c​apjamesg And, at the same time, a list of things I need to clean up!
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[tantek] see https://indieweb.org/2022/Create/March to get a start on a general outline (it's pretty minimal) and I bet GWG would be up for picking a suitable Saturday
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c​apjamesg [tantek]++
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Loqi [tantek] has 18 karma in this channel over the last year (97 in all channels)
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gregorlove.com edited /local_comments (+261) "/* gRegor Morrill */ updated" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /site-homepage (+989) "/* New live modules */ add a few brainstorms from today https://chat.indieweb.org/meta/2024-01-07#t1704657731092300" (view diff)
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GWG I'm still trying to get a suitable day for a Micropub popup
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GWG More people are interested then put in their dates. https://indieweb.org/pop-up#Interest_3
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[tantek] GWG, I like Create Days because they are multi-topic and more broadly appealing/accessible to anyone that wants to make/create/update even minor things on their personal sites
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GWG [tantek]: So do I...but they are different things
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GWG I like an excuse to spend the day working on my website
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GWG But, I like a deep dive into a topic also
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GWG I really want aaronpk to weigh in on a few questions
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GWG As the editor
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[tantek] GWG, have you filed issues on the few questions you want to discuss?
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GWG Yes, no one weighed in
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GWG https://github.com/indieweb/Micropub/issues/12
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GWG https://github.com/indieweb/Micropub/issues/13
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Loqi [preview] [dshanske] #13 Add Query Return Parameters to the Specification
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GWG https://github.com/indieweb/Micropub/issues/14
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tantek.com edited /swiftbot (+36) "first nine studio albums" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /100_days (+715) "/* Brainstorming */ re-sort a bit, add Self Care cluster, expand on intent of a few others" (view diff)
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c​apjamesg How does the bot in the #stream channel work?